(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James - 22-23 NBA Season Thread -NBA's All-Time Scoring Leader!

[khaltheball]

Also raptors grossly over value him for just an elite role player

[Heej]

Yeah we might be going on a run here. D'Lo/LeBron/AD looks really hard to stop with good spacing.

Hopefully Vanderbilt will be able to adjust once teams start cheating off him to stifle LeBron and AD. One or two 3&D wings and this team would've been damn near perfect. They need to move the 2029 first for DFS/Royce O'Neal in the offseason

That will be the time for him to focus on offensive rebounds (with no regard for human life/ Rodman style).

It becomes much harder to just leave a guy when you are forced to commit a body to him in order to box him out (or if he does enough damage/ face guard him).

PG Russell (6’4”)
SG Beasley (6’4”)
SF James (6’8”)
PF Vanderbilt (6’8”)
C Davis (6’10”)

I like that lineup, I like it a lot.

Yea if anything even the Miami Wade tactic of face cutting or back cutting off the ball and forcing defenders to stay glued to him, than and crashing offensive boards from the corner would do wonders. I also like the golden state tactic of off-ball screening open shooters, which has a lot of viability alongside DLo and Beasley

Finally caught the replay from last night and one play early in the 1st quarter stuck out where Bron and AD ran a pnr with DLo and Beasley on the weakside. ADs roll pulled in Beasley's man Ingram to stunt and crash the middle and Beasley happened to jog thru the paint (doesn't seem like that was by design cuz I would think he'd have just stayed in the corner, unless that was a scripted Spurs era Danny Green cut along the baseline during a pnr); but that caused DLo's guy McCollum to sag down and start tracking Beasley's movement which left DLo completely open to can a triple.

Really just opened my eyes as to how different the team looks with guys like that next to Bron and AD. Might need Vanderbilt to really take a leap in the postseason (if we get there) to truly have a chance at contending tho. But still, it was refreshing to see what having actual dangerous shooters next to Bron and AD can do for eachother. I still remember the days when Korver and Love used to do their improvised corner actions lol. Would love to see some of that with these guys

[MyUniBroDavis]

Yeah we might be going on a run here. D'Lo/LeBron/AD looks really hard to stop with good spacing.

Hopefully Vanderbilt will be able to adjust once teams start cheating off him to stifle LeBron and AD. One or two 3&D wings and this team would've been damn near perfect. They need to move the 2029 first for DFS/Royce O'Neal in the offseason

That will be the time for him to focus on offensive rebounds (with no regard for human life/ Rodman style).

It becomes much harder to just leave a guy when you are forced to commit a body to him in order to box him out (or if he does enough damage/ face guard him).

PG Russell (6’4”)
SG Beasley (6’4”)
SF James (6’8”)
PF Vanderbilt (6’8”)
C Davis (6’10”)

I like that lineup, I like it a lot.

Yea if anything even the Miami Wade tactic of face cutting or back cutting off the ball and forcing defenders to stay glued to him, than and crashing offensive boards from the corner would do wonders. I also like the golden state tactic of off-ball screening open shooters, which has a lot of viability alongside DLo and Beasley

Finally caught the replay from last night and one play early in the 1st quarter stuck out where Bron and AD ran a pnr with DLo and Beasley on the weakside. ADs roll pulled in Beasley's man Ingram to stunt and crash the middle and Beasley happened to jog thru the paint (doesn't seem like that was by design cuz I would think he'd have just stayed in the corner, unless that was a scripted Spurs era Danny Green cut along the baseline during a pnr); but that caused DLo's guy McCollum to sag down and start tracking Beasley's movement which left DLo completely open to can a triple.

Really just opened my eyes as to how different the team looks with guys like that next to Bron and AD. Might need Vanderbilt to really take a leap in the postseason (if we get there) to truly have a chance at contending tho. But still, it was refreshing to see what having actual dangerous shooters next to Bron and AD can do for eachother. I still remember the days when Korver and Love used to do their improvised corner actions lol. Would love to see some of that with these guys

I’d be pretty happy with our chances if we get there

If the Suns didn’t exist

[Heej]

That will be the time for him to focus on offensive rebounds (with no regard for human life/ Rodman style).

It becomes much harder to just leave a guy when you are forced to commit a body to him in order to box him out (or if he does enough damage/ face guard him).

PG Russell (6’4”)
SG Beasley (6’4”)
SF James (6’8”)
PF Vanderbilt (6’8”)
C Davis (6’10”)

I like that lineup, I like it a lot.

Yea if anything even the Miami Wade tactic of face cutting or back cutting off the ball and forcing defenders to stay glued to him, than and crashing offensive boards from the corner would do wonders. I also like the golden state tactic of off-ball screening open shooters, which has a lot of viability alongside DLo and Beasley

Finally caught the replay from last night and one play early in the 1st quarter stuck out where Bron and AD ran a pnr with DLo and Beasley on the weakside. ADs roll pulled in Beasley's man Ingram to stunt and crash the middle and Beasley happened to jog thru the paint (doesn't seem like that was by design cuz I would think he'd have just stayed in the corner, unless that was a scripted Spurs era Danny Green cut along the baseline during a pnr); but that caused DLo's guy McCollum to sag down and start tracking Beasley's movement which left DLo completely open to can a triple.

Really just opened my eyes as to how different the team looks with guys like that next to Bron and AD. Might need Vanderbilt to really take a leap in the postseason (if we get there) to truly have a chance at contending tho. But still, it was refreshing to see what having actual dangerous shooters next to Bron and AD can do for eachother. I still remember the days when Korver and Love used to do their improvised corner actions lol. Would love to see some of that with these guys

I’d be pretty happy with our chances if we get there

If the Suns didn’t exist

Yea..pretty hopeless to think anyone's beating that juggernaut without some injury luck. KD really is a better LeGM than LeGM man. Had the title snatched from him thru sheer bad luck in Brooklyn. Gonna take some kind of penance from the basketball Gods to stop him from winning during his Suns era

Mark Jackson saying KD and Book are the best duo in the league is kinda wild given that we still got Bron and AD playing lol. Idk what the Lakers could possibly even do in the off-season now to compete with that Suns juggernaut

[MyUniBroDavis]

Yea if anything even the Miami Wade tactic of face cutting or back cutting off the ball and forcing defenders to stay glued to him, than and crashing offensive boards from the corner would do wonders. I also like the golden state tactic of off-ball screening open shooters, which has a lot of viability alongside DLo and Beasley

Finally caught the replay from last night and one play early in the 1st quarter stuck out where Bron and AD ran a pnr with DLo and Beasley on the weakside. ADs roll pulled in Beasley's man Ingram to stunt and crash the middle and Beasley happened to jog thru the paint (doesn't seem like that was by design cuz I would think he'd have just stayed in the corner, unless that was a scripted Spurs era Danny Green cut along the baseline during a pnr); but that caused DLo's guy McCollum to sag down and start tracking Beasley's movement which left DLo completely open to can a triple.

Really just opened my eyes as to how different the team looks with guys like that next to Bron and AD. Might need Vanderbilt to really take a leap in the postseason (if we get there) to truly have a chance at contending tho. But still, it was refreshing to see what having actual dangerous shooters next to Bron and AD can do for eachother. I still remember the days when Korver and Love used to do their improvised corner actions lol. Would love to see some of that with these guys

I’d be pretty happy with our chances if we get there

If the Suns didn’t exist

Yea..pretty hopeless to think anyone's beating that juggernaut without some injury luck. KD really is a better LeGM than LeGM man. Had the title snatched from him thru sheer bad luck in Brooklyn. Gonna take some kind of penance from the basketball Gods to stop him from winning during his Suns era

Mark Jackson saying KD and Book are the best duo in the league is kinda wild given that we still got Bron and AD playing lol. Idk what the Lakers could possibly even do in the off-season now to compete with that Suns juggernaut

Cp0 rings always finds a way

[Heej]

Ya know catching up on some of these discussions, it is ironic to me that LeBron gets penalized for being ball dominant and him leading all time offenses is looked at as fugazi and non-portable; where if you actually watch a basketball game you would know that a guy who can create a breakdown or advantage vs the defense and kick it out is just as capable of capitalizing on an advantage created by another player. The whole diminishing returns on 2 ballhandlers is wild to me because ideally one ballhandler just drives and kicks to the other who attacks the closeout and generates a high EV scoring opportunity. Wild to me how much people let personal preference define their take on reality with this stuff.

[nzahir]

Yeah we might be going on a run here. D'Lo/LeBron/AD looks really hard to stop with good spacing.

Hopefully Vanderbilt will be able to adjust once teams start cheating off him to stifle LeBron and AD. One or two 3&D wings and this team would've been damn near perfect. They need to move the 2029 first for DFS/Royce O'Neal in the offseason

I think they’ll have two picks in offf season? Depending on who underperforms they can try getting OG, however he’ll be expiring next year , can only shoot threes at an ok lvl on spot ups and keeps talking about wanting a bigger offensive role when he has no offensive game at all . However will sure up guarding 1-3

We will have a pick this summer (ours or Pels), but I am unsure if we can trade it prior draft or after

Also have 2029 pick and 2 swaps

Plus Christie and Reaves (would hope to not touch him right now)

Lets see how the regular season goes and the playoffs (if we make it) and then gauge things. If we can make some noise and be a threat, maybe we are a move like an OG away.

On a side note, we need to go like 15-8 to make the play in

I think top 6 is locked up realistically. Small small chance Kings fall out and drop to 7, but would require a collapse. They also have the tiebraker...

We really put ourselves in a tough tough spot

Man we blew so soooo many opportunities, but I am happy we can at least gel with a better core and go into next year much better

[khaltheball]

Anyone else feel a sense of optimism they haven’t felt in a while ? That felt like the biggest margin of victory we had all year vs an actual ( non tanking ) team . Sure it’s only one game but I wasn’t too discouraged with the Portland game cos thybul hit more 3s then he’s done all year . Pretty excited to see what this team does post break when they get time to gel and heal up a bit. Seems like pels , wolves , blazers , few others will be missing key players for a while . Imo 14-9 ought to do it but 15-8 would be safe : taking out the two rockets games as W makes that look promising : but obv we can lose. This team went 17-11 after the 2-10 start and that was with a much more flawed roster and injuries. It’s also promising that we’ve been pretty good away team : in fact Lebron tenure here that’s been a consistent thing probably partly due ti so many away fans. That and liking the matchup vs Denver makes me optimistic for first time. Still a tall order to get there but set up well for future now. Cautiously optimistic.

[trickshot]

Ya know catching up on some of these discussions, it is ironic to me that LeBron gets penalized for being ball dominant and him leading all time offenses is looked at as fugazi and non-portable; where if you actually watch a basketball game you would know that a guy who can create a breakdown or advantage vs the defense and kick it out is just as capable of capitalizing on an advantage created by another player. The whole diminishing returns on 2 ballhandlers is wild to me because ideally one ballhandler just drives and kicks to the other who attacks the closeout and generates a high EV scoring opportunity. Wild to me how much people let personal preference define their take on reality with this stuff.

"Portability" has become a roundabout way of saying a player has no floor game. If a star is also his team's best pointguard he can't escape 30-40% USG.

Forget the technical aspect just imagine the folly one needs to say the only player to lead 4 titles in 3 cities lacks portability. If that isn't portable then the concept has little bearing on winning. KD and Kyrie were the most portable duo in the league and still got swept.

[Heej]

Anyone else feel a sense of optimism they haven’t felt in a while ? That felt like the biggest margin of victory we had all year vs an actual ( non tanking ) team . Sure it’s only one game but I wasn’t too discouraged with the Portland game cos thybul hit more 3s then he’s done all year . Pretty excited to see what this team does post break when they get time to gel and heal up a bit. Seems like pels , wolves , blazers , few others will be missing key players for a while . Imo 14-9 ought to do it but 15-8 would be safe : taking out the two rockets games as W makes that look promising : but obv we can lose. This team went 17-11 after the 2-10 start and that was with a much more flawed roster and injuries. It’s also promising that we’ve been pretty good away team : in fact Lebron tenure here that’s been a consistent thing probably partly due ti so many away fans. That and liking the matchup vs Denver makes me optimistic for first time. Still a tall order to get there but set up well for future now. Cautiously optimistic.

Definitely 2018 vibes where the pieces feel like they can come together right in time. Unfortunately this time they're gonna have to get thru KD in the West lol which doesn't seem feasible with that Phoenix team

[tone wone]

Ya know catching up on some of these discussions, it is ironic to me that LeBron gets penalized for being ball dominant and him leading all time offenses is looked at as fugazi and non-portable; where if you actually watch a basketball game you would know that a guy who can create a breakdown or advantage vs the defense and kick it out is just as capable of capitalizing on an advantage created by another player. The whole diminishing returns on 2 ballhandlers is wild to me because ideally one ballhandler just drives and kicks to the other who attacks the closeout and generates a high EV scoring opportunity. Wild to me how much people let personal preference define their take on reality with this stuff.

"Portability" has become a roundabout way of saying a player has no floor game. If a star is also his team's best pointguard he can't escape 30-40% USG.

Forget the technical aspect just imagine the folly one needs to say the only player to lead 4 titles in 3 cities lacks portability. If that isn't portable then the concept has little bearing on winning. KD and Kyrie were the most portable duo in the league and still got swept.

They way some on this board fetishize big-man playmaking is a little weird. Like, they dead-ass do not like perimeter players who are hubs but fall over themselves for PF/C's in the same role.

There are a couple of all-time great guards who had to outsource playmaking/initiating to their star forward sidekicks and we're being gaslit into believing thats a huge positive and not major flaw.

[Heej]

Ya know catching up on some of these discussions, it is ironic to me that LeBron gets penalized for being ball dominant and him leading all time offenses is looked at as fugazi and non-portable; where if you actually watch a basketball game you would know that a guy who can create a breakdown or advantage vs the defense and kick it out is just as capable of capitalizing on an advantage created by another player. The whole diminishing returns on 2 ballhandlers is wild to me because ideally one ballhandler just drives and kicks to the other who attacks the closeout and generates a high EV scoring opportunity. Wild to me how much people let personal preference define their take on reality with this stuff.

"Portability" has become a roundabout way of saying a player has no floor game. If a star is also his team's best pointguard he can't escape 30-40% USG.

Forget the technical aspect just imagine the folly one needs to say the only player to lead 4 titles in 3 cities lacks portability. If that isn't portable then the concept has little bearing on winning. KD and Kyrie were the most portable duo in the league and still got swept.

They way some on this board fetishize big-man playmaking is a little weird. Like, they dead-ass do not like perimeter players who are hubs but fall over themselves for PF/C's in the same role.

There are a couple of all-time great guards who had to outsource playmaking/initiating to their star forward sidekicks and we're being gaslit into believing thats a huge positive and not major flaw.

It's literally gaslighting and smacks of people straight up overthinking basketball and trying to force their preconceived notions of how the game should be played into their analysis of certain players

[RCM88x]

Hadn't looked at ESPN's RPM numbers at all this year until today, was surprised to see Lebron 4th overall, 4th in wins, and top 40 in defense.

[Heej]

Hadn't looked at ESPN's RPM numbers at all this year until today, was surprised to see Lebron 4th overall, 4th in wins, and top 40 in defense.

Honestly man I think he still has his playoff fastball left when he can lock in on an opponent, practice with the team, and rest in between games. Never seen a team level up during and in between series' the way a LeBron team does.

[PistolPeteJR]

I hope they make the playoffs, win round 1, at which point I go on my honeymoon, and by the time I get back, see them win in the CFs and then eventually the chip.

Spoiler:

He owes me a wedding gift

[Heej]

I hope they make the playoffs, win round 1, at which point I go on my honeymoon, and by the time I get back, see them win in the CFs and then eventually the chip.

Spoiler:

He owes me a wedding gift

Congrats my man. 6 months in this week for me haha

[PistolPeteJR]

I hope they make the playoffs, win round 1, at which point I go on my honeymoon, and by the time I get back, see them win in the CFs and then eventually the chip.

Spoiler:

He owes me a wedding gift

Congrats my man. 6 months in this week for me haha

Cheers buddy! Congrats to you too!
How’s it been for you? She see you cry last Tuesday when he broke the record?

She saw me get emotional lol.

[Heej]

I hope they make the playoffs, win round 1, at which point I go on my honeymoon, and by the time I get back, see them win in the CFs and then eventually the chip.

Spoiler:

He owes me a wedding gift

Congrats my man. 6 months in this week for me haha

Cheers buddy! Congrats to you too!
How’s it been for you? She see you cry last Tuesday when he broke the record?

She saw me get emotional lol.

Haha yeaa man I didn't expect to really feel anything like that when it happened, but seeing Bron really like that really hammered home that we're in the Endgame now lol.

Can't ever be as bad as my mom and my sister watching me bawl my eyes out like a little baby back in 2016 haha

[homecourtloss]

Hadn't looked at ESPN's RPM numbers at all this year until today, was surprised to see Lebron 4th overall, 4th in wins, and top 40 in defense.

If you take just the last two months, he’s actually number one. LeBron’s RPM numbers in Los Angeles in his mid and late 30s have been absolutely crazy.

[SideshowBob]

I hope they make the playoffs, win round 1, at which point I go on my honeymoon, and by the time I get back, see them win in the CFs and then eventually the chip.

Spoiler:

He owes me a wedding gift

Congrats my man. 6 months in this week for me haha

3 months for me next Sunday