The Giannis Antetokounmpo Thread

[crazy_me_87]

exactly

nobody is saying he is a surefire pippen or george 2.0 right now.
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but if you compare 19(young 19 wont turn 20 until may i believe)old wing prospects at this age..

he compares pretty well

he is a good defender right now wich is not to be taken for granted for a rookie
he is a solid shooter(solid form) right now only will get better
he is a good playmaker(could play some spurts of PG)
his athletic tools(Lenght,Speed,Frame,Solid Jumping,amazing wingspan, huge hands,very good coordination)
are great

the combo of youth,freak athlete(not just jumping!!!!) and very advanced feel for the Game

are just not seen that often

who knows what his ceilling is..

[StonedFan420]

next to Copeland, Giannis is the best glitch in 2k14. unstoppable on the drive and a pretty nice 3pter.

[X-Factor]

we've seen Durant, PG and Pippen

Paul George and Pippen were both nothing more than raw prospects coming out of college, and they were both older than Giannis. Scottie was MUCH older (he made his NBA debut after he turned 22).

I think a lot of people are comparing 19 year old Paul George or 19 year old Pippen to the player Giannis is right now. I haven't seen someone say that Giannis is currently better than peak Pippen, that would be blasphemous but you can certainly see that Giannis has all the physical tools of those players and at his age that matters a lot.

Personally I would take Giannis first overall in 2013 and top 5 in 2014

exactly

nobody is saying he is a surefire pippen or george 2.0 right now.
..



but if you compare 19(young 19 wont turn 20 until may i believe)old wing prospects at this age..

he compares pretty well

he is a good defender right now wich is not to be taken for granted for a rookie
he is a solid shooter(solid form) right now only will get better
he is a good playmaker(could play some spurts of PG)
his athletic tools(Lenght,Speed,Frame,Solid Jumping,amazing wingspan, huge hands,very good coordination)
are great

the combo of youth,freak athlete(not just jumping!!!!) and very advanced feel for the Game

are just not seen that often

who knows what his ceilling is..

You guys clearly are not getting it. I never said no one said that Giannis at 19 is as good as prime Pippen. People however are parading comparing Giannis to surefire HOFers and top 40 players of all time AT THE AGE OF 19. Let the man develop into his body, learn to play the NBA game and after he adjusts to the added attention he is certain to get then we can see how he develops.

After last season many said that Kahwi Leonard was a budding star in the making. Kahwi now in his 3rd year hasn't shown any major improvements in his game as compared to Paul George who made major strides in his 3rd and 4th years.

Kawhi may not be the athlete (in terms of athleticism and his pure physical tools) Giannis is but as a rookie he was every bit as good as Giannis is right now and was just a year older. Kawhi was very good on D and has gotten better, a steady shooter and a pretty decent ball handler. The difference between him as a rookie and Giannis is the fact that he wasn't as great an athlete nor did he have the motor that Giannis has and probably didn't has as natural a feel for the game as Giannis seems to have. That said however the rash comparisons were at a minimum. I believe people are getting carried away that they are forgetting that the road to greatness is long and being young, physically gifted and talented doesn't mean that you're going to get there.

I too believe in Giannis' potential but I do believe its a major rush to state at the age of 19 this young man is going to be that good (many of you have said he is going to be a superstar hence your reasoning for saying he's better than Wiggins and Parker).

Like I said before IMO its way to premature to place such hype on a player who hasn't even gotten the chance to prove that his tools/talent can translate into production.

[Jase]

I think everyone is enticed by the potential of Giannis. As they should be. He has a lot of tools, and he is very, very raw, so you know that he is going to be even more impressive when he puts it all together. I don't get all of the comparisons. Durant? Batum? George? Kirilenko? Heck, why not just enjoy the kid for the player he is instead of trying to tag potentially unrealistic expectations on him. He plays for a small market and a team that hasn't shown that they have any direction. He has played the whole year without a real point guard, except for the times he has been on the court with Ridnour. Yes, athletically, he is a freak. He has the potential to be a 5X5 kind of player, which is awesome. It's a shame we can't see more of his game, but if he keeps growing as a player, I suspect we will....

[tonyreyes123]

This is the universe balancing out for us drafting/trading Dirk.

[lilojmayo]

we've seen Durant, PG and Pippen

Paul George and Pippen were both nothing more than raw prospects coming out of college, and they were both older than Giannis. Scottie was MUCH older (he made his NBA debut after he turned 22).

I think a lot of people are comparing 19 year old Paul George or 19 year old Pippen to the player Giannis is right now. I haven't seen someone say that Giannis is currently better than peak Pippen, that would be blasphemous but you can certainly see that Giannis has all the physical tools of those players and at his age that matters a lot.

Personally I would take Giannis first overall in 2013 and top 5 in 2014

exactly

nobody is saying he is a surefire pippen or george 2.0 right now.
..



but if you compare 19(young 19 wont turn 20 until may i believe)old wing prospects at this age..

he compares pretty well

he is a good defender right now wich is not to be taken for granted for a rookie
he is a solid shooter(solid form) right now only will get better
he is a good playmaker(could play some spurts of PG)
his athletic tools(Lenght,Speed,Frame,Solid Jumping,amazing wingspan, huge hands,very good coordination)
are great

the combo of youth,freak athlete(not just jumping!!!!) and very advanced feel for the Game

are just not seen that often

who knows what his ceilling is..

You guys clearly are not getting it. I never said no one said that Giannis at 19 is as good as prime Pippen. People however are parading comparing Giannis to surefire HOFers and top 40 players of all time AT THE AGE OF 19. Let the man develop into his body, learn to play the NBA game and after he adjusts to the added attention he is certain to get then we can see how he develops.

After last season many said that Kahwi Leonard was a budding star in the making. Kahwi now in his 3rd year hasn't shown any major improvements in his game as compared to Paul George who made major strides in his 3rd and 4th years.

Kawhi may not be the athlete (in terms of athleticism and his pure physical tools) Giannis is but as a rookie he was every bit as good as Giannis is right now and was just a year older. Kawhi was very good on D and has gotten better, a steady shooter and a pretty decent ball handler. The difference between him as a rookie and Giannis is the fact that he wasn't as great an athlete nor did he have the motor that Giannis has and probably didn't has as natural a feel for the game as Giannis seems to have. That said however the rash comparisons were at a minimum. I believe people are getting carried away that they are forgetting that the road to greatness is long and being young, physically gifted and talented doesn't mean that you're going to get there.

I too believe in Giannis' potential but I do believe its a major rush to state at the age of 19 this young man is going to be that good (many of you have said he is going to be a superstar hence your reasoning for saying he's better than Wiggins and Parker).

Like I said before IMO its way to premature to place such hype on a player who hasn't even gotten the chance to prove that his tools/talent can translate into production.

Guys like Kawhi never wow u.

[Styrian]

Ricky Rubio, Wesley Johnson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist all had higher scoring rate in their rookie season than Giannis and he is being compared to Durant.

I think potencial for perimeter players who can't score outside of 4 feet is very limited and I'll have to see before I believe he can be anything more than a role player.

[Dr Positivity]

I disagree with Kawhi being worse athlete or having worse feel for the game than Giannis. Also rookie Kawhi was a better player

[Talent Chaser]

Stuff like this just grabs your attention, Magic-esque

[WhateverBro]

Am I the only one who thinks he plays like a young KG?

I doubt he'll be able to fill up his body and transform himself into the defensive player Garnett did, but he really looks like a rookie KG to me.

[Buggin Out]

I feel like the Giannis hype has gotten a little over blown. I like the kid as a prospect, but nothing has wowed me. Yeah he is big and lanky like durant and athletic, but other than his finishing ability around the rim, nothing scoring wise has impressed me. His midrange game is terrible and he seems to get most of his points on dunks and putbacks. Maybe he can be an nice all around player, like Iguodala or Batum, but I don't see him being a star or top 5 player.

I mean he has had multiple 30+ min games on the worst scoring team in the league and he hasn't scored above 16 points once? He needs to be more aggressive or he won't ever develop.

[NaturalThunder]

I feel like the Giannis hype has gotten a little over blown. I like the kid as a prospect, but nothing has wowed me. Yeah he is big and lanky like durant and athletic, but other than his finishing ability around the rim, nothing scoring wise has impressed me. His midrange game is terrible and he seems to get most of his points on dunks and putbacks. Maybe he can be an nice all around player, like Iguodala or Batum, but I don't see him being a star or top 5 player.

I mean he has had multiple 30+ min games on the worst scoring team in the league and he hasn't scored above 16 points once? He needs to be more aggressive or he won't ever develop.

He does sort of look like Durant at first glace on the court, but that's about the only similarity I've seen so far. I keep glancing in on Bucks games when I remember they're playing (not watching the full games though) and checking boxscores expecting, at least once, to see Giannis breakout for a 20+ or 30+ point game now that he's consistently getting 30+ minutes a night. I'm not even sure why the Durant comparisons started in the first place, because other than them having similar builds and whatnot, from what I've seen Giannis is far from being as skilled of an offensive player as Durant was even in his rookie season at 19 years old. Don't remember the exact number, but I know KD had 10ish 30 point games and a 40 point game his rookie season.

[Ersanity]

The only question mark on Giannis IS scoring. If you're watching him hoping to see 40 points, stop now. If you want to watch someone who consistently impacts a game on offense and defense, and has an unbelievably advanced basketball IQ for someone who won't turn 20 until NEXT season, then he's your guy. I honestly question anyone who doesn't see the potential this kid has. His best player comparison doesn't exist, because no player has ever been exactly what Giannis COULD be. That's why Bucks fans are excited, and may "overhype" him. But in 4-5 years, I suspect overhyping Giannis will be impossible.

[HornetJail]

Stuff like this just grabs your attention, Magic-esque

Man, I might actually watch Bucks games just for this guy. That's saying a lot because the Bucks are completely unwatchable every time I've tried, and I sat through the last two years of Bobcats basketball.

[Buggin Out]

The only question mark on Giannis IS scoring. If you're watching him hoping to see 40 points, stop now. If you want to watch someone who consistently impacts a game on offense and defense, and has an unbelievably advanced basketball IQ for someone who won't turn 20 until NEXT season, then he's your guy. I honestly question anyone who doesn't see the potential this kid has. His best player comparison doesn't exist, because no player has ever been exactly what Giannis COULD be. That's why Bucks fans are excited, and may "overhype" him. But in 4-5 years, I suspect overhyping Giannis will be impossible.

He has potential, but he has to show something to make me believe he will be a top 20 or 10 player in the next couple of years. I mean tonight he plays 33 min, is 1-4 from the floor 3-6 from the FT line with a 5/4/1/1/1 stat line plus 4 TO's. Now I don't want to pick him apart from one game, but a lot of his games he has been invisible. Not someone who impacts the game offensively and defensively.

With a team full of scrubs he needs to be able to at least be more aggressive and take riskier shots. I'd rather see 2-11 Stat line then him avoiding shots. He can pick his shots carefully and put up small numbers efficiently in a lot of minutes, but players who do that are role players not stars.

[Talent Chaser]

Just your normal 19 year old nba player

[Damon_3388]

Just your normal 19 year old nba player

You obviously don't remember Josh Smith's rookie season at all. He was doing stuff like that nearly every game. Smith also had a 10 block game just two weeks after his 19th birthday (the only player under the age of 21 to ever do that in the NBA).

[tonyreyes123]

Laugh now, cry later. My Bucks are coming.

[Damon_3388]

Laugh now, cry later. My Bucks are coming.

Lolwut?

[H2tObes]

Just your normal 19 year old nba player

You obviously don't remember Josh Smith's rookie season at all. He was doing stuff like that nearly every game. Smith also had a 10 block game just two weeks after his 19th birthday (the only player under the age of 21 to ever do that in the NBA).

Yes, and Josh Smith would be one of the best players in the league if he had half the bbiq of Giannis