The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19

[Archx]

I have nothing special to add to this thread... I just wanted to say that this guy's talent excites me.

I love watching him play - he's smart, makes bizarre shots, and he's improving his entire team rookie season.
The Mavs are lucky. They transitioned from one hell of a European player to another. Why can't the Bulls do this?

Because they never had a good European to start with. It is hard to transition to a second European star when you never had a first.

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They have Lauri at least. But they didn't have the balls to trade for him, like some other teams aswell who also had interest in him.

[bledredwine]

I have nothing special to add to this thread... I just wanted to say that this guy's talent excites me.

I love watching him play - he's smart, makes bizarre shots, and he's improving his entire team rookie season.
The Mavs are lucky. They transitioned from one hell of a European player to another. Why can't the Bulls do this?

Because they never had a good European to start with. It is hard to transition to a second European star when you never had a first.

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I'm referring to one star to another,

not specifically European.

AKA - Jordan... then it takes 10 years to get our next all-star in Rose. Never should it take that long just to land an all-star. The truth is that our front office may be the worst (relative to market size) front office when it comes to acquiring stars in Free Agency in the entire league. We draft well, but that's all we do. In free agency, it's the bargain bin or nothing. Keith Bogans for years as Rose's shooting guard is inexcusable. Boozer and Pau are our FA glory from the last decade, sadly... and they were a shell of their former selves.

[Texas Chuck]

Keith Bogans for years as Rose's shooting guard is inexcusable.

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

[bledredwine]

Keith Bogans for years as Rose's shooting guard is inexcusable.

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

During Rose's reign, 2011 and 2012, who did the Bulls find at SG?

They lowballed Jamal Crawford, who I wanted and went on to win 6 man of the year.

[Colbinii]

Keith Bogans for years as Rose's shooting guard is inexcusable.

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

Oh I'm sorry, because Kirk Hinrich was much better, right?

You were factually wrong. It is okay to admit you were wrong about something

[bledredwine]

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

Oh I'm sorry, because Kirk Hinrich was much better, right?

You were factually wrong. It is okay to admit you were wrong about something

If we all admitted when we were wrong about something, you'd be making double posts in every thread.

By the way, your signature is ironic.

[Colbinii]

Oh I'm sorry, because Kirk Hinrich was much better, right?

You were factually wrong. It is okay to admit you were wrong about something

If we all admitted when we were wrong about something, you'd be making double posts in every thread.

By the way, your signature is ironic.

Indeed. It is almost like I am human and make mistakes, except I have the ability to do this thing called self reflecting as I am self aware.

If you like reading you should check this out. It helped me through some difficult times and it has a place in everyone's life who could improve on self reflection (which is all of us as we are all human!)


https://www.amazon.com/Be-Here-Now-Ram-Dass/dp/0517543052

[Dr Spaceman]

Keith Bogans for years as Rose's shooting guard is inexcusable.

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

During Rose's reign, 2011 and 2012, who did the Bulls find at SG?

They lowballed Jamal Crawford, who I wanted and went on to win 6 man of the year.

Kyle Korver?

Just because the coaching staff misused him doesn’t take away from the fact he’s an excellent player. He was always the one closing games for them anyway.

[Sublime187]

I have nothing special to add to this thread... I just wanted to say that this guy's talent excites me.

I love watching him play - he's smart, makes bizarre shots, and he's improving his entire team rookie season.
The Mavs are lucky. They transitioned from one hell of a European player to another. Why can't the Bulls do this?

Because they never had a good European to start with. It is hard to transition to a second European star when you never had a first.

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Lol.

[Sublime187]

He was "Rose's shooting guard" for exactly one year. Of course he only played 18 mpg and Rose only managed to win MVP and the team only managed to win 62 games and get to the ECF that year.

So while you have some legit gripes about the Bulls FO that's probably not really a great example.

Oh I'm sorry, because Kirk Hinrich was much better, right?

You were factually wrong. It is okay to admit you were wrong about something

Lmao.

[bledredwine]

During Rose's reign, 2011 and 2012, who did the Bulls find at SG?

They lowballed Jamal Crawford, who I wanted and went on to win 6 man of the year.

Kyle Korver?

Just because the coaching staff misused him doesn’t take away from the fact he’s an excellent player. He was always the one closing games for them anyway.

And who was Rose's best 2nd option?

[Texas Chuck]

During Rose's reign, 2011 and 2012, who did the Bulls find at SG?

They lowballed Jamal Crawford, who I wanted and went on to win 6 man of the year.

Kyle Korver?

Just because the coaching staff misused him doesn’t take away from the fact he’s an excellent player. He was always the one closing games for them anyway.

And who was Rose's best 2nd option?

In the Bogans year it was Boozer or Deng both of whom were solid.

Of course that's missing the larger point that the team was built around the defense. Rose got the MVP because of a defense he wasn't a significant part of.* All this complaining seems really terribly out of place again.

*And many media members simply refused to give to Lebron because they petty.

[Ascrilas]

Doncic in December (11 games): 6.2 AST, 2.7 TOV
Doncic in the past 5 games: 7.4 AST, 2.6 TOV

This is another aspect of his which is clearly improving. I think he will get the record of the youngest player to record a triple-double in time (he has to get it before mid-January or so). And I'm even more comfortable now to think that in his prime, he can match or even cross the famous LeBron-threshold of 27/7/7. (Not saying he will be as good as him of course.)

Another stat which should show that he is clearly headed towards superstardom: 8.2 FTA in December.

He is a Bird/Harden hybrid indeed. His shot has not been falling this month, but he has still found ways to contribute in every aspect. It's insane how he is progressing. I think he's a clearly better offensive player than Ben Simmons already, for example.

[Texas Chuck]

That shot last night was fun. Right now the legend eclipses the impact, but that's okay. He's coming.

[Goudelock]

That shot last night was fun. Right now the legend eclipses the impact, but that's okay. He's coming.

Luka is one of my favorite players to watch right now, and I don't think that I've enjoyed watching a rookie more than I've enjoyed watching him. But I wish that his fanbase would chill out at times. This isn't directed at you, but I'm sure that you've noticed that his fans are starting to approach Kobe-stan levels of fandom, where they take every opportunity to **** on his teammates, and other rookies.

[Heej]

All in on this cat. This is starting to remind me of Tyreke Evans' star-crossed rookie season where he just came on immediately as the guy and was hitting big shot after big shot and was getting a smidge more hype than they probably deserved (who can forget the Lebron and Oscar comparisons Reke got lmao). Let's hope Luka career trajectory isn't so flat. There's no substitute for basketball IQ and the kid has it in spades. I'm still not sure whether the Mavs would be better off selling high on DSJ though for someone like Bradley Beal. He reeks of being a career loser to me imo. Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.

[HeartBreakKid]

All in on this cat. This is starting to remind me of Tyreke Evans' star-crossed rookie season where he just came on immediately as the guy and was hitting big shot after big shot and was getting a smidge more hype than they probably deserved (who can forget the Lebron and Oscar comparisons Reke got lmao). Let's hope Luka career trajectory isn't so flat. There's no substitute for basketball IQ and the kid has it in spades. I'm still not sure whether the Mavs would be better off selling high on DSJ though for someone like Bradley Beal. He reeks of being a career loser to me imo. Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.

Luka is a significantly better player than Evans as a rookie. Evans wasn't even the best rookie that year - it was Curry. 2010 was still an age where the media didn't care about efficiency, and for some reason was caught up in 20/5/5 statline.

[Texas Chuck]

That shot last night was fun. Right now the legend eclipses the impact, but that's okay. He's coming.

Luka is one of my favorite players to watch right now, and I don't think that I've enjoyed watching a rookie more than I've enjoyed watching him. But I wish that his fanbase would chill out at times. This isn't directed at you, but I'm sure that you've noticed that his fans are starting to approach Kobe-stan levels of fandom, where they take every opportunity to **** on his teammates, and other rookies.

Oh no doubt that Luka has some insufferable fans. I'm not one who likes trashing other players to elevate my favorites. I may be guilty at times of being too giddy over Luka, but I leave it at that.

[Heej]

All in on this cat. This is starting to remind me of Tyreke Evans' star-crossed rookie season where he just came on immediately as the guy and was hitting big shot after big shot and was getting a smidge more hype than they probably deserved (who can forget the Lebron and Oscar comparisons Reke got lmao). Let's hope Luka career trajectory isn't so flat. There's no substitute for basketball IQ and the kid has it in spades. I'm still not sure whether the Mavs would be better off selling high on DSJ though for someone like Bradley Beal. He reeks of being a career loser to me imo. Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.

Luka is a significantly better player than Evans as a rookie. Evans wasn't even the best rookie that year - it was Curry. 2010 was still an age where the media didn't care about efficiency, and for some reason was caught up in 20/5/5 statline.

Oh I agree, I remember that season ending and wondering if we'll look back on Tyreke winning over Steph as a historical blunder which it obviously was. I'm just saying the way he's come on as a rookie in terms of being a flashy star ballhandler with memorable moments is very Tyreke or Kyrie-esque to me. These are just my personal feelings as a basketball fan in terms of how his season feels compared to other rookies since I've started hardcore watching. My girl wants to name our future son after this kid now lmao. He's a future face of the league for sure.

[Texas Chuck]

Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.

Yeah I'm hopeful that some of this is still him not being right physically plus some rust, but he looks totally cooked.

Luka looking this good makes that easier to take. Since Dirk left his prime we haven't been able to see the future in Dallas. It's been dark and dire. And now there is new hope.