Who was Lebron's best Teammate?

[Dupp]

As though to emphasize the "ringzz!" bias in the mainstream, did anyone catch CWebb's reply to Reggie Miller tonight, when asked who was the best teammate Lebron's ever had?

CWebb said [slightly paraphrased]: "As of today, Davis is NOT better than Kyrie Irving; he's NOT better than Dwyane Wade. You wanna know why? Because they have that hardware. If they get there this year, then I say yeah [he's the best]."

Yeah I caught that too. So dumb. Like what if Lebrons the one that costs Davis a ring does the same still apply?

[No-more-rings]

Mannn AD has yet to have a stinker playoff series. Even Wade had 2011 Chicago as a blemish on the resume. I think the level AD is at right now is straight up higher than Wade in 2011 at this point.

I really hope yourself and others are taking opponents’ defensive quality into consideration.

The Heat in 2011 faced the 7th, 2nd, 1st and 8th ranked defense in the playoffs. Aside from that one stinker series against Chicago, Wade was excellent otherwise and was getting talk for the best player in the world after the finals. The Chicago and Boston defenses were a type Ad never saw.

[Heej]

Mannn AD has yet to have a stinker playoff series. Even Wade had 2011 Chicago as a blemish on the resume. I think the level AD is at right now is straight up higher than Wade in 2011 at this point.

I really hope yourself and others are taking opponents’ defensive quality into consideration.

The Heat in 2011 faced the 7th, 2nd, 1st and 8th ranked defense in the playoffs. Aside from that one stinker series against Chicago, Wade was excellent otherwise and was getting talk for the best player in the world after the finals. The Chicago and Boston defenses were a type Ad never saw.

AD played the dynasty Warriors including the defensive juggernaut version before KD. He's done well against #1 defenses too

[No-more-rings]

Mannn AD has yet to have a stinker playoff series. Even Wade had 2011 Chicago as a blemish on the resume. I think the level AD is at right now is straight up higher than Wade in 2011 at this point.

I really hope yourself and others are taking opponents’ defensive quality into consideration.

The Heat in 2011 faced the 7th, 2nd, 1st and 8th ranked defense in the playoffs. Aside from that one stinker series against Chicago, Wade was excellent otherwise and was getting talk for the best player in the world after the finals. The Chicago and Boston defenses were a type Ad never saw.

AD played the dynasty Warriors including the defensive juggernaut version before KD. He's done well against #1 defenses too

He did ok but not that great the 2nd time. The first time he played well but it was nowhere near a close series and he was a negative playmaker. His track record against strong defenses is nowhere close to or as proven as Wade’s.

[zimpy27]

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh


This is just using one stat but I do think 2012 Wade should be number one. That's the Wade that won the championship with LeBron, I think it's possible people have overlooked Bosh in 2011 and believe Wade was the best on the team. Bosh had the highest on/off in the regular season and playoffs that season by quite a margin.

If Davis wins a championship with LeBron this year then I'd probably put him number 1.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh

Youre ranking theire on off only right?

[zimpy27]

Spoiler:

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh

Youre ranking theire on off only right?

Yes, that's correct. Just thought it'd be interesting.

I personally would rank Irving as the worst "star" teammate LeBron has had and that Love was very underrated. I imagine the rank at the end of his career will be:

1. Davis
2. Wade
3. Love
4. Bosh
5. Irving

[No-more-rings]

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh


This is just using one stat but I do think 2012 Wade should be number one. That's the Wade that won the championship with LeBron, I think it's possible people have overlooked Bosh in 2011 and believe Wade was the best on the team. Bosh had the highest on/off in the regular season and playoffs that season by quite a margin.

If Davis wins a championship with LeBron this year then I'd probably put him number 1.

Wade in 2012 was absolutely not better than his 2011 form. His impact stuff might look better but he clearly lost half a step and it showed in the postseason.

[gswhoops]

Mannn AD has yet to have a stinker playoff series. Even Wade had 2011 Chicago as a blemish on the resume. I think the level AD is at right now is straight up higher than Wade in 2011 at this point.

I really hope yourself and others are taking opponents’ defensive quality into consideration.

The Heat in 2011 faced the 7th, 2nd, 1st and 8th ranked defense in the playoffs. Aside from that one stinker series against Chicago, Wade was excellent otherwise and was getting talk for the best player in the world after the finals. The Chicago and Boston defenses were a type Ad never saw.

AD played the dynasty Warriors including the defensive juggernaut version before KD. He's done well against #1 defenses too

I mean, depends on your definition of "done well"...AD put up good numbers but they went 1-8 across the two series.

As for the OP...'11 Wade was probably the best individual player Bron has ever played along side but '20 Bron/Davis is more effective than '11 Bron/Wade

[JordansBulls]

Spoiler:

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh

Youre ranking theire on off only right?

Yes, that's correct. Just thought it'd be interesting.

I personally would rank Irving as the worst "star" teammate LeBron has had and that Love was very underrated. I imagine the rank at the end of his career will be:

1. Davis
2. Wade
3. Love
4. Bosh
5. Irving

Irving outplayed Steph in the finals in 2016 when Steph was the unanimous MVP and they play the same position and hit the game winner in game 7 over him.

[Woodsanity]

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh


This is just using one stat but I do think 2012 Wade should be number one. That's the Wade that won the championship with LeBron, I think it's possible people have overlooked Bosh in 2011 and believe Wade was the best on the team. Bosh had the highest on/off in the regular season and playoffs that season by quite a margin.

If Davis wins a championship with LeBron this year then I'd probably put him number 1.

Its really odd. Why such a big disparity for Davis between RS and PS. Is it just a first year adjustment period?

[zimpy27]

Here is the order of on/off in the regular, from best to worst:
2012 Bosh
2017 Love
2012 Wade
2011 Wade
2017 Irving
2016 Love
2013 Bosh
2016 Irving
2020 Davis

Here is the order of on/off in the playoffs, from best to worst:
2020 Davis
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2012 Bosh
2016 Irving
2011 Wade
2013 Bosh

Overall I'd say ranking (with weighting towards playoffs), from best to worst, looks like:
2012 Wade
2017 Love
2020 Davis
2012 Bosh
2016 Love
2017 Irving
2011 Wade
2016 Irving
2013 Bosh


This is just using one stat but I do think 2012 Wade should be number one. That's the Wade that won the championship with LeBron, I think it's possible people have overlooked Bosh in 2011 and believe Wade was the best on the team. Bosh had the highest on/off in the regular season and playoffs that season by quite a margin.

If Davis wins a championship with LeBron this year then I'd probably put him number 1.

Its really odd. Why such a big disparity for Davis between RS and PS. Is it just a first year adjustment period?

Must be adjustment. He's been playing so much better in the playoffs than the regular season.

[Heej]

This threads gonna make me watch the highlights of that double 41 game in 2016 lol

[GSP]

Its easily Davis. Hes just on another level in the playoffs. There is basically no coverage that can stop him TBH and defensively hes blossomed under finally getting a defensive coach into a Dpoy level defender

[Johnny Tomala]

2020 Anthony Davis then 2016 Kyrie Irving and 2011 Dwyane Wade.

[Almond2Oak]

As of now? AD... but Wade is correct answer. LeBron would have 1 Title if he never hooked up w/Wade. Put Bosh + Wade w/multiple folks and he gets a ring.

[freethedevil]

Mannn AD has yet to have a stinker playoff series. Even Wade had 2011 Chicago as a blemish on the resume. I think the level AD is at right now is straight up higher than Wade in 2011 at this point.

I really hope yourself and others are taking opponents’ defensive quality into consideration.

The Heat in 2011 faced the 7th, 2nd, 1st and 8th ranked defense in the playoffs. Aside from that one stinker series against Chicago, Wade was excellent otherwise and was getting talk for the best player in the world after the finals. The Chicago and Boston defenses were a type Ad never saw.

ad's playoff career before the lakers was mostly against the warriors

[freethedevil]

2020 Anthony Davis then 2016 Kyrie Irving and 2011 Dwyane Wade.

what?

[dreamshake]

2020 Anthony Davis then 2016 Kyrie Irving and 2011 Dwyane Wade.

Should change your name to Johnny Tamale with a take that hot.

[Ursusamericanus]

Based on how things are going, this is 2020 AD. 2011 Wade was great, but obviously a poorer fit.