I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength

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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#41 » by Guy986 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 12:15 am

215paperboy wrote:those stories are absolutely true.[b] wilt is the reason you can't inbound the ball over the basket because his teammates would throw alley oops and he'd catch them at the top of the backboard.

What...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI2rLv8H ... re=related

btw, wilt was able to dunk from the free throw line without taking any steps.


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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#42 » by jaypo » Thu Aug 6, 2009 1:02 am

If you're talking about 125 in each hand, then I am impressed. I misunderstood. That is a hell of a feat, but I'd like to see proof.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#43 » by bluefear » Thu Aug 6, 2009 3:44 am

User phil jackson is really entertaining...and im not being sarcastic..a resource to realgm
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#44 » by DaRkJaWs42 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 3:52 am

The source is the one I mentioned in the first page; his name is written in Robert Cherry's biography of Wilt.

Being able to curl at least 125 pounds in each hand IS incredible, but nowhere out of the realm of impossibility.

Look at this:

http://www.selftranscendence.org/sports ... -dumbbell/

Now Wilt could do this as easily as he was flicking his wrist, according to the source, so 125 was definitely not his max.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#45 » by The GM - V of R » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:24 pm

PimpORL wrote:or maybe Wilt wasn't really all that great
:-?


Yeah, ok. Wilt was easily the most dominant NBA player of all time. Just check the actual record books for that information instead of just tossing out an assumption based on nothing. That is wreckless and irresponsible and does him a disservice. Respect greatness and open up your mind. This runs though the biggest myths and debunks them: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever

Wilt was a world class athlete, a track star, with great strength and also endurance...as well as a soft outside touch. He averaged over 46 min per game one year... and that is in the stat books. He set so many records and i would never listen to a youngster or millenial on this. I would defer to pros or coaches of his time and also to Sonny Hill who knows more about basketball and knows more people tied to NBA than anyone. He is a guru. He has praised Wilt and respects what he has done. Those who were there know and the records prove Wilt's dominance. No one did what he did. Do some research.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#46 » by The GM - V of R » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:30 pm

Guy986 wrote:
The problem with Wilt is that he was so far beyond normal that it's easy to dismiss what is said. Some people are trying to do that. But things like Wilt picking pennies off backboards...Wilt did that with the Globies. Literally hundreds of thousands of people saw it. Johnny Kerr's broken toe--that was a well-documented play too. So was Wilt dislocating Gus Johnson shoulder by blocking his shot. Wilt playing in a pickup game in 1980 and getting mad about the cheap fouls and, literally, rejecting every shot after that...Magic was in that game, and he was blown away. Larry Brown was there. Wilt was in his mid-40s at the time. And, of course, my favorite...the free throws. Jordan and Dr. J are famous for their dunks where they took off behind the free throw line. When Wilt went to Kansas, his coach said he make every free throw because he shot them all that way. Think about that. If it was one or two stories, you'd dismiss them. But there are too many, and too many are well documented.


Human mind is the most fickled and fragile of things. If you keep repeating the same lies over and over, some people will believe it. If the event is that well documented please provide link, video, pictures, etc. but saying my brother's uncle's neighbor's sister in law told me doesn't count.


Just check the records books. Shows his dominance. And study up on his actual recorded accomplishments (the facts). Anyone who studies NBA knows Wilt is most dominant. Jordan may be best all around and most marketed and then Bill Russell most championships and Kareem most points, but Wilt was definitely most dominant! ...by far. Read up on all the debunked myths too: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever

Wilt was a world class athlete, a track star, with great strength and also endurance...as well as a soft outside touch. He averaged over 46 min per game one year... and that is in the stat books. He set so many records and i would never listen to a youngster or millenial on this. I would defer to pros or coaches of his time and also to Sonny Hill who knows more about basketball and knows more people tied to NBA than anyone. He is a guru. He has praised Wilt and respects what he has done. Those who were there know and the records prove Wilt's dominance. No one did what he did and had all the tools he had.. speed , strength, touch, endurance, confidence.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#47 » by The GM - V of R » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:33 pm

DaRkJaWs42 wrote:
PimpORL wrote:or maybe Wilt wasn't really all that great
:-?

or you're 100% wrong.

Get out.

Yes, he is. He is uninformed and hasn't done a lick of research. Lot of them out there though.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#48 » by The GM - V of R » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:39 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:With the evolution of the modern athlete, Wilt would be a pretty solid back-up to someone like Shaq or Duncan in today's league. He just wouldn't be able to sustain a high level of play for an extended period of time against these modern day athletes. A guy like Shaq or Duncan is just so much more athletic, skilled and fit than Wilt. I still think he'd be a good player today, just not on the same level as Howard or Duncan.


This is flat out incorrect and negligent. Nonsense. He would definitely handle those 2. Wilt may not have looked as strong as he was , but he certainly had the strength and stamina to take those 2 on. He had a special set of skills ... Strength, stamina (46+ minutes per game one year, touch from outside, passing ability, very fast (high school track star!) and then the confidence. You simply haven't done any homework here. Check with those who have played with him or around him or coached him. Cmon man.

Just check the records books. Shows his dominance. And study up on his actual recorded accomplishments (the facts). Anyone who studies NBA knows Wilt is most dominant. Jordan may be best all around and most marketed and then Bill Russell most championships and Kareem most points, but Wilt was definitely most dominant! ...by far. Read up on all the debunked myths too: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever

He set so many records and changed the rules of the game (FACTS). i would never listen to someone making assumptions on this. I would defer to pros or coaches of his time and also to Sonny Hill (current 94 WIP host on Sunday AM) who knows more about basketball and knows more people tied to NBA than anyone. He is a guru of the game. He has praised Wilt and respects what he has done. Those who were there know and the records prove Wilt's dominance. No one did what he did and had all the tools he had.. speed , strength, touch, endurance, ridiculous confidence, jumping ability and the blocking that was incredible. Check his blocks. Look up his numbers sometime to actually see what he did. Get educated.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#49 » by penbeast0 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:43 pm

NeilsCeltics wrote:...
You see. People play positions that would not wear them out the fastest. That's the reasons why undersized SGs play Point Guard, since they can't handle the strain of playing Shooting Guard and because they don't have court vision. Or why Rip Hamilton only plays Shooting Guard 96% of the time. When Rip Hamilton played Small Forward more often, and Rasheed Wallace was forced to be a Center, they suffered injuries. Wilt Chamberlain has unbelievable endurance, but if he has to guard Shaquille O'Neal, he'll suffer wear and tear a lot sooner than he would have if he didn't have to face Shaq.

You're right. I'm not being sarcastic. Sarcasm is not in my nature.


Frankly, anyone playing Shaq, or Wilt, or LeBron, or Jordan, etc. every night would be more worn down . . . and so would Shaq playing Wilt (and Shaq not being a fitness nut and ironman, he'd be more likely to be the one injured). It's the next level of basketball, like going from college to pro; not everyone could do it and everyone would have to step up their game.

In terms of Shaq v. Wilt, I think Wilt would be shocked by not being able to get his favorite spots because Shaq has the lower body strength to push him off them. He'd still have the fallaway and counters like the finger roll because he shot a lot of finesse shots but he have less of the 2 foot dunks and layups out of the post because you can't push Shaq out of the way. Shaq would also have to adjust his game playing against something he never did . . . a player who is longer than he is while being an equally shocking athletic freak; he might have to shoot more jump hooks and counters. It would be fun to watch. IT would probably also matter which refs were calling it as Shaq (more than Wilt) was allowed to put his shoulder down and bulldoze people which they didn't allow in Wilt's day.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#50 » by picko » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:53 pm

Imagine creating an account and frantically quadruple-posting because someone on the internet was dismissive of Wilt ... in 2009.
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Re: I've finally understood Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#51 » by Vladimir777 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:05 pm

picko wrote:Imagine creating an account and frantically quadruple-posting because someone on the internet was dismissive of Wilt ... in 2009.


How do people even find these threads? Also, the person who necro-ed this thread is posting articles from 2009, in addition to bumping a thread from 2009. I feel like I've walked into the Twilight Zone....

People are weird.

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