Nikola Jokic - 23-24 NBA Thread - '24 NBA MVP & 23 Finals NBA MVP

Special_Puppy · Post #401 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:57 pm

rk2023 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:SGA was not better against a terrible New Orleans team without Zion than Jokic was against a good Lakers team with healthy AD/LeBron.

Idk how or why some posters on here (namely one) have tried to begin pushing this narrative. I’d love to see how the process of it plays out too

Which narrative? That SGA was better than Jokic in the first round?

rk2023 · Post #402 » by **rk2023** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:08 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:SGA was not better against a terrible New Orleans team without Zion than Jokic was against a good Lakers team with healthy AD/LeBron.

Idk how or why some posters on here (namely one) have tried to begin pushing this narrative. I’d love to see how the process of it plays out too

Which narrative? That SGA was better than Jokic in the first round?

Yes

CodeBreaker · Post #403 » by **CodeBreaker** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:51 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
bigboi wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
"I don't care about context at all when assessing a player"

There is no context at all actually. Jokic on the Mavs loses first round against the clippers. Making up hypothetical situations that aren’t based in reality is just silly.

"Making up hypothetical situations that aren't based in reality is silly"

*Proceeds to say that Jokic would have lost to a Clippers team without Kawhi Leonard*

Clowning a clown :lol:

TroubleS0me · Post #404 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:59 pm

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eminence · Post #405 » by **eminence** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:44 am

Big loss for Denver, their depth is so terrible at this point.

Maybe there’s a 2 or 3 for 1 with MPJ that can salvage it somehow.

TroubleS0me · Post #406 » by **TroubleS0me** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:46 am

eminence wrote:Big loss for Denver, their depth is so terrible at this point.

Maybe there’s a 2 or 3 for 1 with MPJ that can salvage it somehow.

Agreed they have been getting worse. They lost Bruce Brown and now KCP.

TroubleS0me · Post #407 » by **TroubleS0me** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:06 pm

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Dr Positivity · Post #408 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:09 pm

I actually kind of like it.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #409 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:17 pm

They feel like the Lakers after 2020 now. Where on paper Jokic & Murray showing up for 60ppg is hard to beat but its not something you really bet on happening. Obviously having Jokic still in his prime is something but front office moves are such a big part of prolonging title windows or creating dynastic type teams.

TroubleS0me · Post #410 » by **TroubleS0me** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:23 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:I actually kind of like it.

why

Dr Positivity · Post #411 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:28 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I actually kind of like it.

why

I'm picturing Jokic finding him out on outlets and him throwing some lobs to Gordon

Peregrine01 · Post #412 » by **Peregrine01** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:22 pm

One of the big weaknesses when Jokic sits is not only that the offense dies but that no one pushes the ball. Westbrook can do that with the second unit.

TroubleS0me · Post #413 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:34 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
TroubleS0me wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I actually kind of like it.

why

I'm picturing Jokic finding him out on outlets and him throwing some lobs to Gordon

I can see that. But does the positives outweigh the negatives with Westbrook?

Colbinii · Post #414 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:58 am

TroubleS0me wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
TroubleS0me wrote:
why

I'm picturing Jokic finding him out on outlets and him throwing some lobs to Gordon

I can see that. But does the positives outweigh the negatives with Westbrook?

Yeah quite clearly

Peregrine01 · Post #415 » by **Peregrine01** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:14 am

TroubleS0me wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
TroubleS0me wrote:
why

I'm picturing Jokic finding him out on outlets and him throwing some lobs to Gordon

I can see that. But does the positives outweigh the negatives with Westbrook?

Another thing that the Nuggets sorely need is rim pressure from the perimeter. Other than Jokic, no one on the Nuggets can really consistently get into the paint. Westbrook can also help Nuggets deal with ball pressure better which was their achilles heel against Minny. He's the type that needs the ball in his hands to be effective and Denver needs ball-handlers who can get to the rim. I think the fit will be better than many think.

Peregrine01 · Post #416 » by **Peregrine01** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:55 am

The other crazy thing to think about is that Westbrook is 36 this year...and he's still one of the most athletic guards in the league. Just a freak.

GSP · Post #417 » by **GSP** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:39 am

This is a good signing we saw they missed Bruce bad last season and Russ even now is a better version of Bruce and brings a lot of the same strengths except Russ can handle more and run offenses and lineups. Kcp a big loss tho

TroubleS0me · Post #418 » by **TroubleS0me** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:47 pm

Nuggets getting worse

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GSP · Post #419 » by **GSP** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:45 am

+0 in 32 mins against Usa
-26 in 8 mins he sat

looks like Denvers on/off splits have followed him to Serbia :lol:

Peregrine01 · Post #420 » by **Peregrine01** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:21 pm

GSP wrote:+0 in 32 mins against Usa
-26 in 8 mins he sat

looks like Denvers on/off splits have followed him to Serbia

Denver is screwed if they give Murray the max. He has looked utterly awful in international play...and this playing as a 3rd or 4th option against non-NBA talents. With the albatross of MPJ's contract and the looming albatross of Murray's, I'm increasingly worried that Jokic is just gonna be stuck in a bad situation for the rest of his prime.