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Post#421 » by Mos_Heat » Fri Mar 3, 2023 7:58 am

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Mos_Heat wrote:Best case scenario for LA at this point is finishing ahead of the Pels. I don't know how you can build a team around 2 guys who miss 40% of the season every year though

Sadly I don't know what AD deal helps with the ceiling to be a title contender

Kyrie likely not going to leave Dallas, blew that one (but maybe we never really had a chance as Tsai didnt want to give into Kyrie)

What guys could be available? (could always need a 3rd team)

Beal
Dame
Lavine/Derozan
KAT
Trae Young
Siakam?
Harden?
Jimmy Butler? (bad fit anyways)

If it's Siakam and something else, I might do it. Other options are meh
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Post#422 » by dcstanley » Fri Mar 3, 2023 8:03 am

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nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Best case scenario for LA at this point is finishing ahead of the Pels. I don't know how you can build a team around 2 guys who miss 40% of the season every year though

Sadly I don't know what AD deal helps with the ceiling to be a title contender

Kyrie likely not going to leave Dallas, blew that one (but maybe we never really had a chance as Tsai didnt want to give into Kyrie)

What guys could be available? (could always need a 3rd team)

Beal
Dame
Lavine/Derozan
KAT
Trae Young
Siakam?
Harden?
Jimmy Butler? (bad fit anyways)


Gobert maybe?


I think Bulls has the most potential. Vuc, Caruso, PatWill for Davis.

Definitely not for Gobert, 39 year old Lebron is gonna need a player that will soak up some usage. PatWill isn't a rotation player and Vuc is a mediocre center. 40 or so games from AD is worth more than any of that.

Honestly, if you must trade AD I would just trade for Kyrie/Wood.

Kyrie
Reaves
Vando
Lebron
MLE center

with Wood as the 6th man

That's a playoff team at the least.
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Post#424 » by Joao Saraiva » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:13 pm

Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?
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Post#425 » by Greatness » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:19 pm

Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?

People hate him because he's better than their fav player
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Post#426 » by Joao Saraiva » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:20 pm

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Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?

People hate him because he's better than their fav player


I know Kobe fan bases and MJ's are like that. But I've never seen such thing about injuries with other players. If he plays he's faking. If he doesn't play he's not tough enough. Dude can never win lol
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Post#427 » by Ian Scuffling » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:28 pm

Greatness wrote:
Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?

People hate him because he's better than their fav player


Absolutely nailed it.
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Post#428 » by rk2023 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 4:33 pm

Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?


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Post#429 » by thebigbird » Fri Mar 3, 2023 4:43 pm

Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?

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Post#430 » by trickshot » Fri Mar 3, 2023 8:22 pm

I always wondered how AD or Lebron couldn't at least elevate the team to 0.500 in spite of Westbrook. The Clippers tell me anything above 0.000 was the actual elevation. Also did it without being able to add roleplayers. Clips have all of theirs.
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Post#431 » by parsnips33 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 8:27 pm

Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:
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Post#432 » by trickshot » Fri Mar 3, 2023 8:32 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:

Guy, what the hell kind of flex? This was the league before 15. Steph didn't invent playing without spacing. Many teams will kill for the "non-spacing" Curry had. Steph's non-spacer was only the top defensive anchor of the pace and space era and arguably the best passer on the team. This is the basketball version of a rich born kind going to a mine to flex the value of hardowork. Ain't no one trying to hear it.
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Post#433 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri Mar 3, 2023 9:19 pm

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parsnips33 wrote:Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:

Guy, what the hell kind of flex? This was the league before 15. Steph didn't invent playing without spacing. Many teams will kill for the "non-spacing" Curry had. Steph's non-spacer was only the top defensive anchor of the pace and space era and arguably the best passer on the team. This is the basketball version of a rich born kind going to a mine to flex the value of hardowork. Ain't no one trying to hear it.


Apparently Steph didn’t also have the second greatest shooter ever on his team lol.
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Post#434 » by parsnips33 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 9:38 pm

donnieme wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:

Guy, what the hell kind of flex? This was the league before 15. Steph didn't invent playing without spacing. Many teams will kill for the "non-spacing" Curry had. Steph's non-spacer was only the top defensive anchor of the pace and space era and arguably the best passer on the team. This is the basketball version of a rich born kind going to a mine to flex the value of hardowork. Ain't no one trying to hear it.


Sorry I should have flexed about my team winning slightly fewer games than they lost with Russell Westbrook. Much more reasonable
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Post#435 » by trickshot » Fri Mar 3, 2023 10:24 pm

parsnips33 wrote:
donnieme wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:

Guy, what the hell kind of flex? This was the league before 15. Steph didn't invent playing without spacing. Many teams will kill for the "non-spacing" Curry had. Steph's non-spacer was only the top defensive anchor of the pace and space era and arguably the best passer on the team. This is the basketball version of a rich born kind going to a mine to flex the value of hardowork. Ain't no one trying to hear it.


Sorry I should have flexed about my team winning slightly fewer games than they lost with Russell Westbrook. Much more reasonable

The irony here is that would actually have been more believable than claiming to invent poor spacing.
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Post#436 » by trickshot » Fri Mar 3, 2023 11:59 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:
donnieme wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Steph made everybody think it was easy playing with multiple non-shooting threats on the floor I guess :lol:

Guy, what the hell kind of flex? This was the league before 15. Steph didn't invent playing without spacing. Many teams will kill for the "non-spacing" Curry had. Steph's non-spacer was only the top defensive anchor of the pace and space era and arguably the best passer on the team. This is the basketball version of a rich born kind going to a mine to flex the value of hardowork. Ain't no one trying to hear it.


Apparently Steph didn’t also have the second greatest shooter ever on his team lol.

Next, don't forget to buy KD's new book on Perseverance.
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Post#437 » by homecourtloss » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:05 am

Joao Saraiva wrote:
Greatness wrote:
Joao Saraiva wrote:Why do people hate on LeBrno the way they do? They were already saying dude was faking an injury and after all he was playing injured. Is it really that much of a trend to slander Bron? Why do people even care so much?

People hate him because he's better than their fav player


I know Kobe fan bases and MJ's are like that. But I've never seen such thing about injuries with other players. If he plays he's faking. If he doesn't play he's not tough enough. Dude can never win lol


This is what hate does to rationality — it crushes it and destroys all rationality. The end of all thought processes is that “LeBron bad” in some form or another, so EVERY argument is construed to reach the conclusion regardless of what anything else including rationality says.

If you look at the Lakers message boards, you’ll see this where they go on and on about him not toughing out injuries even though he has played as many minutes and as many games as players much much younger than he is. Other players are allowed to be injured and playing through injuries but if he struggles then it’s either because he’s about to be washed or that he doesn’t care about anything other than his own personal stats. Mentioning anything about on/off numbers doesn’t really matter to this group of people.
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Post#438 » by PistolPeteJR » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:32 am

homecourtloss wrote:
Joao Saraiva wrote:
Greatness wrote:People hate him because he's better than their fav player


I know Kobe fan bases and MJ's are like that. But I've never seen such thing about injuries with other players. If he plays he's faking. If he doesn't play he's not tough enough. Dude can never win lol


This is what hate does to rationality — it crushes it and destroys all rationality. The end of all thought processes is that “LeBron bad” in some form or another, so EVERY argument is construed to reach the conclusion regardless of what anything else including rationality says.

If you look at the Lakers message boards, you’ll see this where they go on and on about him not toughing out injuries even though he has played as many minutes and as many games as players much much younger than he is. Other players are allowed to be injured and playing through injuries but if he struggles then it’s either because he’s about to be washed or that he doesn’t care about anything other than his own personal stats. Mentioning anything about on/off numbers doesn’t really matter to this group of people.


Of course it doesn’t matter. Just sub “rangz” for anything on its surface. Context isn’t a thing.
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Post#439 » by nzahir » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:32 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Best case scenario for LA at this point is finishing ahead of the Pels. I don't know how you can build a team around 2 guys who miss 40% of the season every year though

Sadly I don't know what AD deal helps with the ceiling to be a title contender

Kyrie likely not going to leave Dallas, blew that one (but maybe we never really had a chance as Tsai didnt want to give into Kyrie)

What guys could be available? (could always need a 3rd team)

Beal
Dame
Lavine/Derozan
KAT
Trae Young
Siakam?
Harden?
Jimmy Butler? (bad fit anyways)

If it's Siakam and something else, I might do it. Other options are meh

I may as well, but unsure where AD ends up here

Unless it is Toronto

And to the poster who said Gobert, hell no
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Post#440 » by PistolPeteJR » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:38 am

AD was killing em. Of course, 3 quick fouls and he’s been out half the second quarter. Bamba’s been terrible.

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