2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

[mikejames23]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

[ardee]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

Uh, the Knicks?

[tsherkin]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

Uh, the Knicks?

There's probably a KAT dig in there somewhere.

[Cavsfansince84]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

I agree its still very early but at the same time I feel like its 50/50 they may never get it going and end up at around 40 wins. Them having Doc as hc doen't really make me feel any better about their chances. More so this is old Doc and I don't think that these guys get better at motivating players past the age of 60 or so. It just gets harder for them. ny should figure it out but I'm not sure that penciling them as the #2 in the east seems as automatic as people thought it would be. Even Boston may hit a slump or injuries. Every season is its own test.

[Fadeaway_J]

That Bucks team just seems to have so much disaster potential compared to previous years. At the very least, I think New York is a better bet in the regular season.

We'll see what happens with Giannis, I guess. And with Lillard's impact on their D.

It's just alarming how little they've done to build on the foundation they had with the vets. Giannis is still a monster, but outside of him you have Lopez heading into his age 36 season, Middleton coming off two ankle surgeries, and 34-year-old Dame as the guys you're relying on, with no-one waiting in the wings ready to take on a larger role if necessary. That's super precarious, and the latter two have already shown signs of slippage. And this may be a hot take, but Doc as coach doesn't do much to alleviate my concerns either.

This take has aged well so far...

It's still amazing how awful the Bucks have been at adding younger supporting pieces. Even without premium draft picks, most contenders manage to stumble upon at least one or two contributors over such a long period.

[tsherkin]

We'll see what happens with Giannis, I guess. And with Lillard's impact on their D.

It's just alarming how little they've done to build on the foundation they had with the vets. Giannis is still a monster, but outside of him you have Lopez heading into his age 36 season, Middleton coming off two ankle surgeries, and 34-year-old Dame as the guys you're relying on, with no-one waiting in the wings ready to take on a larger role if necessary. That's super precarious, and the latter two have already shown signs of slippage. And this may be a hot take, but Doc as coach doesn't do much to alleviate my concerns either.

This take has aged well so far...

It's still amazing how awful the Bucks have been at adding younger supporting pieces. Even without premium draft picks, most contenders manage to stumble upon at least one or two contributors over such a long period.

One would think, right?

[GSP]

Zion is done as a serious player Imo what a waste of talent his fatass couldnt get on a diet and take his job seriously completely stunted his development as a player. Being on a mins restriction in 1st week of the season as a 24yo freak athlete is one of the most insane things ive ever heard. His career trajectory is starting to look like Larry Johnson but more injuries......early promise. Flashes. 2 all star appearances..................all downhill now

[tsherkin]

Zion is done as a serious player Imo what a waste of talent his fatass couldnt get on a diet and take his job seriously completely stunted his development as a player. Being on a mins restriction in 1st week of the season as a 24yo freak athlete is one of the most insane things ive ever heard. His career trajectory is starting to look like Larry Johnson but more injuries......early promise. Flashes. 2 all star appearances..................all downhill now

He's had 2 30+-point games in the last 3. He just had a 10-assist game. He's hit double-digit rebounds twice. He's had three poor-shooting games and 2 incendiary performances.

It's a bit early to be writing him off as such, especially while thus far posting the highest FTr of his career and the 2nd-best ORB% of his career. He's had his struggles but he's also still shown flashes and it's only 5 games.

[IlikeSHAIguys]

Hella jinx here but maybe this could be our year?

[LukaTheGOAT]

Hella jinx here but maybe this could be our year?

You guys are the team to beat out West. 5-0 with Shai experimenting with his game (a lot of 3's). Caruso has even been able to play the 5 for you guys. A lot of versatility.

[tsherkin]

Hella jinx here but maybe this could be our year?

You guys are the team to beat out West. 5-0 with Shai experimenting with his game (a lot of 3's). Caruso has even been able to play the 5 for you guys. A lot of versatility.

Shai has looked quite a bit worse than the past two seasons so far. He's sucked from 3, he's shooting too many of them, he's tanked his efficiency, his draw rate is in the crapper, and he's gone away from his short and middle game in quite pronounced a fashion so far. He also suddenly can't hit from 10-16.

I've only watched one Thunder game, so that's obviously just b-ref watching, but that's not a great way to begin the season, for sure. They're the 13th-ranked offense now, down from 3rd last year, but the best defense. And they're 5-0.

So I mean, they've got a safety net. And hopefully SGA will figure it out and go back to what was working the past couple of seasons, which would make them far, far scarier. Maybe he's just trying the 3 out early to see how it feels for later and all that. It is early days, after all.

[GSP]

Bucks being 1-5 and Suns 5-1 has to have Bud smiling lol..........Giannis doesnt get called out enough for how slimy a person he is. Got Bud fired right after Heat series when Giannis himself was hurt again then had an all time individual choke in game 5 by him. Iirc Buds brother died during that series too. Got Jrue traded for Dame didnt even talk to him then there was that awkward postgame embrace where it looked like Giannis didnt want it to happen until Jrue went over to him. Got Griffin fired b/c he didnt like style of play then did that dance over grave ****. Pushed for Doc River Lmaooooooooo. If Bucks spiral and fail here Giannis is a big reason w/ his Gming but he wont be called out since he makes cringe dad jokes. If Bron or Kd had their team spiral like this w/ not 1 but 2 coach changes a trade demand for superstar and have this run Bucks have had............everyone would be **** on them but Giannis is the innocent trapped superstar b/c he likes oreos and milk. Gimme a **** break

[Scoots1994]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

I agree its still very early but at the same time I feel like its 50/50 they may never get it going and end up at around 40 wins. Them having Doc as hc doen't really make me feel any better about their chances. More so this is old Doc and I don't think that these guys get better at motivating players past the age of 60 or so. It just gets harder for them. ny should figure it out but I'm not sure that penciling them as the #2 in the east seems as automatic as people thought it would be. Even Boston may hit a slump or injuries. Every season is its own test.

Can anyone explain why teams keep hiring Doc? He's good with media but he's never been a very good coach.

[Scoots1994]

Bucks being 1-5 and Suns 5-1 has to have Bud smiling lol..........Giannis doesnt get called out enough for how slimy a person he is. Got Bud fired right after Heat series when Giannis himself was hurt again then had an all time individual choke in game 5 by him. Iirc Buds brother died during that series too. Got Jrue traded for Dame didnt even talk to him then there was that awkward postgame embrace where it looked like Giannis didnt want it to happen until Jrue went over to him. Got Griffin fired b/c he didnt like style of play then did that dance over grave ****. Pushed for Doc River Lmaooooooooo. If Bucks spiral and fail here Giannis is a big reason w/ his Gming but he wont be called out since he makes cringe dad jokes. If Bron or Kd had their team spiral like this w/ not 1 but 2 coach changes a trade demand for superstar and have this run Bucks have had............everyone would be **** on them but Giannis is the innocent trapped superstar b/c he likes oreos and milk. Gimme a **** break

The top of the list for getting coaches fired has to be LeBron

[The-Power]

Giannis doesnt get called out enough for how slimy a person he is. Got Bud fired right after Heat series when Giannis himself was hurt again then had an all time individual choke in game 5 by him. Iirc Buds brother died during that series too. Got Jrue traded for Dame didnt even talk to him then there was that awkward postgame embrace where it looked like Giannis didnt want it to happen until Jrue went over to him. Got Griffin fired b/c he didnt like style of play then did that dance over grave ****. Pushed for Doc River Lmaooooooooo.

Do you have reliable evidence for all of those strong claims (since you seem to insinuate Giannis was pulling all the strings) or do you always resort to calling people names based on vague reports and conjecture (and an apparent need to always ascribe all of the blame in complex situations to individuals in accordance with your prior held beliefs)?

[falcolombardi]

I don't know what the hell Milwaukee is doing, but I think it's start of the season drama. Waiting for Lillard to round into form, really want a interesting East or it'll be all Boston again.

I agree its still very early but at the same time I feel like its 50/50 they may never get it going and end up at around 40 wins. Them having Doc as hc doen't really make me feel any better about their chances. More so this is old Doc and I don't think that these guys get better at motivating players past the age of 60 or so. It just gets harder for them. ny should figure it out but I'm not sure that penciling them as the #2 in the east seems as automatic as people thought it would be. Even Boston may hit a slump or injuries. Every season is its own test.

Can anyone explain why teams keep hiring Doc? He's good with media but he's never been a very good coach.

He is a famous name that is about it

[Scoots1994]

I agree its still very early but at the same time I feel like its 50/50 they may never get it going and end up at around 40 wins. Them having Doc as hc doen't really make me feel any better about their chances. More so this is old Doc and I don't think that these guys get better at motivating players past the age of 60 or so. It just gets harder for them. ny should figure it out but I'm not sure that penciling them as the #2 in the east seems as automatic as people thought it would be. Even Boston may hit a slump or injuries. Every season is its own test.

Can anyone explain why teams keep hiring Doc? He's good with media but he's never been a very good coach.

He is a famous name that is about it

25 years of coaching with 1 title from a team that didn't need him to coach it.

[ShaqAttac]

Great team win without Steph Wigs and Melton

Draymond vs Zion is just good TV

Who needs Poole when you've got Open Waters

Dray REAL MVP talks when

Draymond Garnett and Jerry Sthackodeau masterclass last night

Lotta people are saying #DrayVP

#Drayprez now

[LukaTheGOAT]

Hella jinx here but maybe this could be our year?

You guys are the team to beat out West. 5-0 with Shai experimenting with his game (a lot of 3's). Caruso has even been able to play the 5 for you guys. A lot of versatility.

Shai has looked quite a bit worse than the past two seasons so far. He's sucked from 3, he's shooting too many of them, he's tanked his efficiency, his draw rate is in the crapper, and he's gone away from his short and middle game in quite pronounced a fashion so far. He also suddenly can't hit from 10-16.

I've only watched one Thunder game, so that's obviously just b-ref watching, but that's not a great way to begin the season, for sure. They're the 13th-ranked offense now, down from 3rd last year, but the best defense. And they're 5-0.

So I mean, they've got a safety net. And hopefully SGA will figure it out and go back to what was working the past couple of seasons, which would make them far, far scarier. Maybe he's just trying the 3 out early to see how it feels for later and all that. It is early days, after all.

Physically Shai looks great so I am not concerned. I think he is more so testing his limits at this juncture. Come playoff time I do anticipate him to be able to get to his midrange jumper on commander, which provides an okay floor to the OKC offense. At the same time, his non-elite playmaking perhaps caps their ceiling on offense a bit, especially against convoluted looks that he does not readily pickup vs. some other elite offensive guys.

[tsherkin]

Physically Shai looks great so I am not concerned. I think he is more so testing his limits at this juncture. Come playoff time I do anticipate him to be able to get to his midrange jumper on commander, which provides an okay floor to the OKC offense. At the same time, his non-elite playmaking perhaps caps their ceiling on offense a bit, especially against convoluted looks that he does not readily pickup vs. some other elite offensive guys.

Yeah, I mean I'm sure he has a thought in his head he's working on, right? It isn't going well, but they're winning. I'm sure he'll get back to his usual business eventually. And I'm not really worried about his playmaking, to be honest.