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RSCD3_ · Post #441 » by **RSCD3_** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:24 pm

Yeah there are two dynamic frontcourt players that are being left off due to superstar mentality or injury problems not to mention both cant shoot 3's.

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MisterHibachi · Post #442 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:27 pm

Honestly, this might be the hardest part of the draft because there's so many guys in a similar tier of talent. First couple rounds were easy cuz you just grab the next available ATG. Now, there's that 3rd and 4th tier thats filled with like a bajillion players.

john248 · Post #443 » by **john248** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:28 pm

I think you guys are all looking at this different, so I'll just offer my different view with regards to Worthy as it relates to this draft. Personally, if I had Magic, I wouldn't value Worthy more than another comparable SF/PF just on real life history alone. The fact of the matter is, having a GOAT PG like Magic means he can pair with anyone. So if you feel there was a better player than Worthy, you take the better player because no one is really going to argue a poor fit when it comes to any offense led by Magic. However, if Worthy was the best player available, then it's really just a happy accident.

With Paul George, 3 year peak hurts him, and there are better guys then him out there.

john248 · Post #444 » by **john248** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:44 pm

I'm really debating on taking a guy who's labeled a chucker in a reduced role. Hmmm.

whitehops · Post #445 » by **whitehops** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:52 pm

I agree wholeheartedly with john.

you can match pretty much any player with an elite PG and there will be good chemistry

Notanoob · Post #446 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:56 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:
Notanoob wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:I think there's at least 3 guys on the board, at least there are for me, who are shocking still not drafting. Funny thing would be if the 3 were all the same for everyone haha. I know who I'm going for next but I doubt he'll be there. Still my second choice was my first until I realized the first guy was still shockingly undrafted.

Let me guess, those guys you are shocked about are back-court players, yes?

Two of them are front court actually.

I bet I know who they are. I had 2 guards and a forward in mind.

MisterHibachi · Post #447 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:58 pm

Notanoob wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:
Notanoob wrote:Let me guess, those guys you are shocked about are back-court players, yes?

Two of them are front court actually.

I bet I know who they are. I had 2 guards and a forward in mind.

i think the guard is fairly obvious. If he gets drafted before I get my chance, which seems likely, I'll point him out. He'll be the steal of the draft in my opinion.

Notanoob · Post #448 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:52 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:
Notanoob wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:
Two of them are front court actually.

I bet I know who they are. I had 2 guards and a forward in mind.

i think the guard is fairly obvious. If he gets drafted before I get my chance, which seems likely, I'll point him out. He'll be the steal of the draft in my opinion.

No need to point the guard out, HeartBreakKid will almost certainly take him.

I was really considering that guard myself, but I decided to go with Rodman. He can shut down both forward positions for me and is the best rebounder in the history of basketball. Before he attempted suicide in 1993, following the resignation of Chuck Daley, he was a quiet introverted guy, so I don't have to worry that much about chemistry issues. He'll probably be coming off of the bench, depending on who I can grab at PF.

whitehops · Post #449 » by **whitehops** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:52 pm

Narigo wrote:.

you're on the clock.

Post #450 » by **Quotatious** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:59 pm

Notanoob - you now have a really incredible core man. I know some people argue that Rodman couldn't be effective playing with a center who stays in the paint a lot, but I personally don't really believe it. I think Hakeem would simply stay a bit further from the basket and attack from the elbow. It wouldn't make any difference, as the Dream was an outstanding ballhandler for a center and that way defenders would have no clue what he's gonna do (as if they had a clue without it...).

I was hoping that Rodman would somehow slip to my pick but I knew it was rather impossible at the same time. He still wasn't my top target though.

MisterHibachi · Post #451 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:00 pm

Rodman was a guy I considered over Marion. I'm still debating whether I made a mistake with that pick. Marion is pretty versatile tho, one of the greatest defenders, not as good a rebounder, but I'll live with the pick.

Post #452 » by **Quotatious** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:03 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Rodman was a guy I considered over Marion. I'm still debating whether I made a mistake with that pick. Marion is pretty versatile tho, one of the greatest defenders, not as good a rebounder, but I'll live with the pick.

Marion is an excellent glue guy, he should do a fine job linking your backcourt and frontcourt together, and you can always use him at SF as well (I actually thought you'd use him at SF most of the time, but I see you have a different idea).

Still, Rodman + Moses on the boards?

Oh, God, I'm glad you didn't make it happen.

Notanoob · Post #453 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:04 pm

Marion is 100x the offensive player that Rodman is, although Rodman regularly had fantastic ORtgs. Matrix is less of a one-trick pony, so that's still a good choice.

Notanoob · Post #454 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:07 pm

Quotatious wrote:Notanoob - you now have a really incredible core man. I know some people argue that Rodman couldn't be effective playing with a center who stays in the paint a lot, but I personally don't really believe it. I think Hakeem would simply stay a bit further from the basket and attack from the elbow. It wouldn't make any difference, as the Dream was an outstanding ballhandler for a center and that way defenders would have no clue what he's gonna do (as if they had a clue without it...).

I was hoping that Rodman would somehow slip to my pick but I knew it was rather impossible at the same time. He still wasn't my top target though.

Thanks, I'm just worried about how I'll fill in my back-court though. I figure the run on PGs will start soon, and most of the calm, game-manager types who'd be content to hang out by the 3 point line while making entry passes to Hakeem all day but are capable of taking over are gone. The best ones are mostly guys who want to carry the team by themselves, with the obvious exception of a certain one. That or they just aren't shooters, and I'll need floor spacers for this team.

I really cannot wait to get to my next pick though, because it's nearly a back-to-back and I'll be able to establish my team for good.

MisterHibachi · Post #455 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:08 pm

Quotatious wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:Rodman was a guy I considered over Marion. I'm still debating whether I made a mistake with that pick. Marion is pretty versatile tho, one of the greatest defenders, not as good a rebounder, but I'll live with the pick.

Marion is an excellent glue guy, he should do a fine job linking your backcourt and frontcourt together, and you can always use him at SF as well (I actually thought you'd use him at SF most of the time, but I see you have a different idea).

Still, Rodman + Moses on the boards? Oh, God, I'm glad you didn't make it happen.

That was the main attraction I had to the Rodman pick. God wouldn't be getting boards over that front court. But Marion can do a lot more things than Rodman and he's no less of a defender and he's not half bad on the boards himself. 11 rpg in his prime. Malone and Marion aren't too bad on the boards themselves, plus Wade is one of the best rebounding guards.

Plus, if I chose Rodman, I couldn't claim small ball anymore! :lol:

Notanoob · Post #456 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:11 pm

I'm curious at to who you'll target for SF if you have Matrix at PF, MisterHibachi. Most of the remaining guys are post-up, scoring SFs from the eighties, unless you're going for a total non-star. At least, ones that I can think of.

Post #457 » by **Quotatious** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:14 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:That was the main attraction I had to the Rodman pick. God wouldn't be getting boards over that front court. But Marion can do a lot more things than Rodman and he's no less of a defender and he's not half bad on the boards himself. 11 rpg in his prime. Malone and Marion aren't too bad on the boards themselves, plus Wade is one of the best rebounding guards.

I can certainly understand the reasoning, and I agree with it. Marion is an awesome rebounder in his own right and brings offense to the table, unlike Rodman.

MisterHibachi wrote:Plus, if I chose Rodman, I couldn't claim small ball anymore!

Well, Rodman and Marion are the exact same size.

Notanoob wrote:Thanks, I'm just worried about how I'll fill in my back-court though. I figure the run on PGs will start soon, and most of the calm, game-manager types who'd be content to hang out by the 3 point line while making entry passes to Hakeem all day but are capable of taking over are gone. The best ones are mostly guys who want to carry the team by themselves, with the obvious exception of a certain one. That or they just aren't shooters, and I'll need floor spacers for this team.

You would love to nab Chauncey, wouldn't you? :lol:

There's one guy very similar to him though, two decades prior.
Guards shouldn't be a problem though. With that frontcourt, you won't need that much talent in the backcourt to do alright.

MisterHibachi · Post #458 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:17 pm

Quotatious wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:That was the main attraction I had to the Rodman pick. God wouldn't be getting boards over that front court. But Marion can do a lot more things than Rodman and he's no less of a defender and he's not half bad on the boards himself. 11 rpg in his prime. Malone and Marion aren't too bad on the boards themselves, plus Wade is one of the best rebounding guards.

I can certainly understand the reasoning, and I agree with it. Marion is an awesome rebounder in his own right and brings offense to the table, unlike Rodman.
MisterHibachi wrote:Plus, if I chose Rodman, I couldn't claim small ball anymore!

Well, Rodman and Marion are the exact same size.

Yeah, but Rodman couldn't hit the 3. Marion could on good days. You need spacing for small ball.

MisterHibachi · Post #459 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:18 pm

Notanoob wrote:I'm curious at to who you'll target for SF if you have Matrix at PF, MisterHibachi. Most of the remaining guys are post-up, scoring SFs from the eighties, unless you're going for a total non-star. At least, ones that I can think of.

I've had one in mind who would be perfect. But I'm debating whether to pass on him and grab the guard. If I get the guard, I might even move Marion to SF and go for a low key PF I have in mind.

Post #460 » by **Quotatious** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:19 pm

Notanoob wrote:I'm curious at to who you'll target for SF if you have Matrix at PF, MisterHibachi. Most of the remaining guys are post-up, scoring SFs from the eighties, unless you're going for a total non-star. At least, ones that I can think of.

I assume Hibachi would like to take a good shooter right now. I know I'm targeting SF shooter myself though.