2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

[Dupp]

Can’t believe how good clips have been in this series. They easily could have been 2-2 or even ahead.

[MO12msu]

Ty Lue really out coaching Monty here. Ayton has been good but you can’t expect him to keep up in this 5 out lineup. Just put in Cam Johnson for Ayton and see how the Paul-Booker-Bridges-Crowder-Johnson lineup looks like. I don’t understand how we’ve seen zero minutes of that.

[bondom34]

Clippers' offense looks incredible with the 5-out attack

Anyone have their ORTG with these line-ups?

Using CTG playoff lineups w/o Zubac, Cousins, or Oturu (letting Ibaka in there) 127.9.

Also Paul George is by far leading the league in playoff minutes and has to be running on fumes. This is just a really impressive performance, he's had a great playoffs.

Edit: RS it was 121.7.

[Fadeaway_J]

The number of irritating players on both these teams is really something.

[TheGOATRises007]

What is CP3's legacy if the Suns blow this 3-1 lead and he continues his rather poor play?

[GSP]

What is CP3's legacy if the Suns blow this 3-1 lead and he continues his rather poor play?

Jesus can you imagine? Thatd be the final nail specially considering they were 2-0 without him this series.....I think hed be the only player that blow more than 1 3-1 lead too at that point.

[TheGOATRises007]

Joey, it's time for you to eat some crow about Phoenix being a level above everyone in the West besides a healthy Lakers team.

You said they'd win this in 5 or even sweep the Clippers.

After 5 games, the Clippers have easily been the better team.

[MartinToVaught]

I'd like to say I can't believe we won this game without Kawhi, Ibaka and Zubac, but I also watched CP3 gag a 3-1 lead away to Corey Brewer and Josh Smith, so...

[falcolombardi]

suns benefitted from better health even in regular season

they are great, but anyone thinking they are a level above other strong teams like clippers or bucks was overreacting a bit imo

[Texas Chuck]

Paul George and Reggie Jackson are having themselves a playoffs. Reggie might be pricing himself right out of town even and who had that when the playoffs began? Luka eating PatBev alive for 2 games made Lue give him a chance and he's done nothing but produce since. Been a vital 2nd scorer with Kawhi out and no team has figured out how to punish him at the other end.

[bondom34]

On the minutes thing:

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[falcolombardi]

7 games and clippers are still wildly better in defense without kawhi

what the hell happened?

[Dupp]

Yeah why are all these guys playing so much better without kawhi, particularly George?


PG has been great these playoffs. Great to see he was right after all after doc tried to trash him. This clippers team is impressive.

[Doctor MJ]

Paul George and Reggie Jackson are having themselves a playoffs. Reggie might be pricing himself right out of town even and who had that when the playoffs began? Luka eating PatBev alive for 2 games made Lue give him a chance and he's done nothing but produce since. Been a vital 2nd scorer with Kawhi out and no team has figured out how to punish him at the other end.

I don't think Ballmer's Clippers are going to cheap out. Are you thinking they'll be able to get a better option for cheaper elsewhere?

Looking at a list of point guard free agents this summer, considering guys close to Kawhi/PG's age, Reggie Jackson is the guy I think I'd want even if I were another team, but for the Clippers where he's already established (in part because PG was buds with him in the first place)? He's kind of the obvious choice now.

If you think the Clippers will want to bring in one of the big name older point guards instead, I think that's understandable, but to me the Clippers will be grateful to get Reggie back unless they have someone else they particularly want.

[Doctor MJ]

Yeah why are all these guys playing so much better without kawhi, particularly George?


PG has been great these playoffs. Great to see he was right after all after doc tried to trash him. This clippers team is impressive.

I actually think it's often times a lot less forgiving playing beta star than alpha. You're supposed to let your teammate dictate how everything goes, but still find a way to be as valuable as you could be if you had the ball. You're supposed to play with less primacy, oh except at certain critical times where everything will fall to you and you have to change back on a dime to alpha mode.

I think there's less worry in PG's head like this. He's not thinking about stepping on Kawhi's toes. He knows it's on him, and he's better able to just act. Still not clutch at the free throw line where he has time to think, but he's less indecisive on the floor and that makes a difference.

All this to say that I don't think Kawhi's ever physically preventing PG from playing like this, but PG's play here is showing that PG still has his top gear to go to and he hasn't figured out how to get there while sharing the floor with Kawhi, and Kawhi should be asking himself what he needs to do to allow PG to play unleashed alongside him.

[Dupp]

Yeah why are all these guys playing so much better without kawhi, particularly George?


PG has been great these playoffs. Great to see he was right after all after doc tried to trash him. This clippers team is impressive.

I actually think it's often times a lot less forgiving playing beta star than alpha. You're supposed to let your teammate dictate how everything goes, but still find a way to be as valuable as you could be if you had the ball. You're supposed to play with less primacy, oh except at certain critical times where everything will fall to you and you have to change back on a dime to alpha mode.

I think there's less worry in PG's head like this. He's not thinking about stepping on Kawhi's toes. He knows it's on him, and he's better able to just act. Still not clutch at the free throw line where he has time to think, but he's less indecisive on the floor and that makes a difference.

All this to say that I don't think Kawhi's ever physically preventing PG from playing like this, but PG's play here is showing that PG still has his top gear to go to and he hasn't figured out how to get there while sharing the floor with Kawhi, and Kawhi should be asking himself what he needs to do to allow PG to play unleashed alongside him.

I think the clips can be priced out of Reggie but maybe I’m wrong. I didn’t think they could match anything.

[Dupp]

Also, Luka looking more goated every passing game.

[dcstanley]

41 points on 87.2 TS% on the road and in an elimination game for George. On paper, this performance is comparable to KD's game 5 performance.

[falcolombardi]

Yeah why are all these guys playing so much better without kawhi, particularly George?


PG has been great these playoffs. Great to see he was right after all after doc tried to trash him. This clippers team is impressive.

I actually think it's often times a lot less forgiving playing beta star than alpha. You're supposed to let your teammate dictate how everything goes, but still find a way to be as valuable as you could be if you had the ball. You're supposed to play with less primacy, oh except at certain critical times where everything will fall to you and you have to change back on a dime to alpha mode.

I think there's less worry in PG's head like this. He's not thinking about stepping on Kawhi's toes. He knows it's on him, and he's better able to just act. Still not clutch at the free throw line where he has time to think, but he's less indecisive on the floor and that makes a difference.

All this to say that I don't think Kawhi's ever physically preventing PG from playing like this, but PG's play here is showing that PG still has his top gear to go to and he hasn't figured out how to get there while sharing the floor with Kawhi, and Kawhi should be asking himself what he needs to do to allow PG to play unleashed alongside him.

that explain how the clippers have kept the offense going but how did they inprove so much defensively?

every passing game it gets harder to think is just small sample noise, and if is that, then clippers really got lucky in the Defensive side at the right time

[Doctor MJ]

Yeah why are all these guys playing so much better without kawhi, particularly George?


PG has been great these playoffs. Great to see he was right after all after doc tried to trash him. This clippers team is impressive.

I actually think it's often times a lot less forgiving playing beta star than alpha. You're supposed to let your teammate dictate how everything goes, but still find a way to be as valuable as you could be if you had the ball. You're supposed to play with less primacy, oh except at certain critical times where everything will fall to you and you have to change back on a dime to alpha mode.

I think there's less worry in PG's head like this. He's not thinking about stepping on Kawhi's toes. He knows it's on him, and he's better able to just act. Still not clutch at the free throw line where he has time to think, but he's less indecisive on the floor and that makes a difference.

All this to say that I don't think Kawhi's ever physically preventing PG from playing like this, but PG's play here is showing that PG still has his top gear to go to and he hasn't figured out how to get there while sharing the floor with Kawhi, and Kawhi should be asking himself what he needs to do to allow PG to play unleashed alongside him.

I think the clips can be priced out of Reggie but maybe I’m wrong. I didn’t think they could match anything.

If there's some hard cap situation going on, then just know I'm ignorant. I'm just thinking in terms of Ballmer's attitude. I expect he's going to be quite pleased with Jackson and want to show the NBA that he's serious about treating well the guys who play well for him.