2018-19 Player of the Year Discussion Thread

[Peregrine01]

I think Raw on/off has some big problems, just like raw stats do. But I do think that the Warriors started playing better once Durant went out. And Tucker was clearly the best defender on the Rockets and that their defense became porous when he was out.

[HeartBreakKid]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

[GSP]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

[Jim Naismith]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

We shall see.

[HeartBreakKid]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

[TheGOATRises007]

Very eager to see how Giannis and Kawhi perform in the ECF.

[GSP]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a good performance for sure. Just weird to see him anointed the best player off a game other guys would get scrutinized for. But winning (specially gamewinners) cures all

[PaulieWal]

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a good performance for sure. Just weird to see him anointed the best player off a game other guys would get scrutinized for. But winning (specially gamewinners) cures all

Eh, he also played pretty damn good defense in this game. The whole team had a bunch of amazing defensive sequences in the 4th and Kawhi was playing defense like 3 years ago while still taking 39 shots. This entire series he's played great defense. For my money he's been the best player in these playoffs.

[GSP]

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a good performance for sure. Just weird to see him anointed the best player off a game other guys would get scrutinized for. But winning (specially gamewinners) cures all

Eh, he also played pretty damn good defense in this game. The whole team had a bunch of amazing defensive sequences in the 4th and Kawhi was playing defense like 3 years ago while still taking 39 shots. This entire series he's played great defense. For my money he's been the best player in these playoffs.

I think hes played really well on defense not sure if id say great. He was great on defense this game but the teams defense has been stellar. Alot of guys on the team had great defensive games this series but i think Siakam is clearly their best defender. Marcs defense on Embiid was stellar all series too completely shut him down outside one game which was prolly the only good offensive game Joel has had VS Marc in their careers. Lowry for as much **** as i give him always seems to make huge defensive plays in the playoffs even ones that dont show up in the stat sheet

[Joey Wheeler]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

[GSP]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

His backup bigs are Greg Monroe and Mike Scott with Boban being unplayable

Raptors just attack the paint relentlessly when he sits. I dont think the on/off should point a story that he was great in this series tho. He was trash offensively just like against us last year. Great defensive series tho

[cpower]

yeah...kawhi is the best player in the world

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a game where the raptors had 24 more possessions than the 76ers.. Now imagine if Kawhi missed that last shot and the raptors blew this game, he would be criticized to death on this board...again decent numbers but barely beating a team that played much worse than you is not a good game.

[LA Bird]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

His backup bigs are Greg Monroe and Mike Scott with Boban being unplayable

Raptors just attack the paint relentlessly when he sits. I dont think the on/off should point a story that he was great in this series tho. He was trash offensively just like against us last year. Great defensive series tho

It's not just Embiid's off court net ratings being inflated by poor backups. His on court +/- blows everybody out the water.

76ers
+90 Embiid
+15 Butler
-2 Redick
-16 Simmons
-33 Harris

Raptors
+34 Leonard
+34 Green
+31 Lowry
+19 Ibaka
+12 Gasol

A +20 on court net rating against a team as good as the Raptors is very impressive.

[inDe_eD]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

Two disclaimers: 1) I'm not coming after you personally here, but your post is as good as any for what I want to say and 2) I love Embiid, he's probably my 2nd favorite player right now.

The inevitable +/- analysis for Embiid these next few days is going to be really irritating. Philly had screwy lineups that made this number wayyyy bigger than it should have been. Pulling Embiid out 5 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters, where whoever backed him up came in cold against Toronto's starters (who were already in a groove), all so he could feast on the bench at the start of the 2nd and 4th, drastically oversells his impact in this series. If you watched the games, you'd see that the starting 5's played each other to a pretty solid standstill (blowouts aside). Embiid wasn't this amazing +/- Unicorn on the court, and you can make an argument that he was probably the biggest let down for Philly in the series. He had a few moments, but he also had several sequences where he fouled or turned over the ball multiple possessions in a row, in the 4th quarter.

[inDe_eD]

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a game where the raptors had 24 more possessions than the 76ers.. Now imagine if Kawhi missed that last shot and the raptors blew this game, he would be criticized to death on this board...again decent numbers but barely beating a team that played much worse than you is not a good game.

It was a game where the non-Kawhi Raptors were **** their pants whenever they touched the ball. He had to do this. It really was one of the most physical games I've seen in a long long time.

[HeartBreakKid]

For scoring 41 on 39 shots? He had a great series but his numbers cooled down in the last 3 games after an unsustainable start. He got to rest in the Rs only play 60 games and not play b2bs. Team played great without him too

hes def a top 5 player but lets cool the breaks......Giannis is the best player and its not looking that close so far.

It was a game where both teams scored below 100 points. Kawhi Leonard lead both teams in scoring the entire time, and the only other guy who cracked 20 points in this game was Embiid (21 points). his efficiency wasn't good but it was an incredibly physical game.

It was a good performance for sure. Just weird to see him anointed the best player off a game other guys would get scrutinized for. But winning (specially gamewinners) cures all

Scrutinized for what? He dropped over 40 points. Again, within the context of this game, he was by far the best scorer on the court, I guess if someone just looks at his FGA then it doesn't look that great, but even then, looking at what everyone else did he was the most dominating player in a game with 4 other all-stars.

Also, my post was before the Raptors won.

[ShotCreator]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

Two disclaimers: 1) I'm not coming after you personally here, but your post is as good as any for what I want to say and 2) I love Embiid, he's probably my 2nd favorite player right now.

The inevitable +/- analysis for Embiid these next few days is going to be really irritating. Philly had screwy lineups that made this number wayyyy bigger than it should have been. Pulling Embiid out 5 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters, where whoever backed him up came in cold against Toronto's starters (who were already in a groove), all so he could feast on the bench at the start of the 2nd and 4th, drastically oversells his impact in this series. If you watched the games, you'd see that the starting 5's played each other to a pretty solid standstill (blowouts aside). Embiid wasn't this amazing +/- Unicorn on the court, and you can make an argument that he was probably the biggest let down for Philly in the series. He had a few moments, but he also had several sequences where he fouled or turned over the ball multiple possessions in a row, in the 4th quarter.

Meaning what specificially

[inDe_eD]

Surprised there's seemingly no buzz around Embiid. His impact in this series was off the charts (and through the whole playoffs/season as well). Sixers were -109 with him off and +90 with him on. In game 7 alone, he played 45 minutes, during which he was +10. They were -12 in the 3 minutes he sat down.

Two disclaimers: 1) I'm not coming after you personally here, but your post is as good as any for what I want to say and 2) I love Embiid, he's probably my 2nd favorite player right now.

The inevitable +/- analysis for Embiid these next few days is going to be really irritating. Philly had screwy lineups that made this number wayyyy bigger than it should have been. Pulling Embiid out 5 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters, where whoever backed him up came in cold against Toronto's starters (who were already in a groove), all so he could feast on the bench at the start of the 2nd and 4th, drastically oversells his impact in this series. If you watched the games, you'd see that the starting 5's played each other to a pretty solid standstill (blowouts aside). Embiid wasn't this amazing +/- Unicorn on the court, and you can make an argument that he was probably the biggest let down for Philly in the series. He had a few moments, but he also had several sequences where he fouled or turned over the ball multiple possessions in a row, in the 4th quarter.

Meaning what specificially

I need to go back and watch to quote you the exact sequences, but there were at least two games (game 4 was one of them) that he gave away at the end. I get that he was sick, but that's still a letdown. I have serious concerns about Simmons, but he guarded Kawhi as well as anyone I've ever seen, so he's not my scapegoat this series.

[bondom34]

Two disclaimers: 1) I'm not coming after you personally here, but your post is as good as any for what I want to say and 2) I love Embiid, he's probably my 2nd favorite player right now.

The inevitable +/- analysis for Embiid these next few days is going to be really irritating. Philly had screwy lineups that made this number wayyyy bigger than it should have been. Pulling Embiid out 5 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters, where whoever backed him up came in cold against Toronto's starters (who were already in a groove), all so he could feast on the bench at the start of the 2nd and 4th, drastically oversells his impact in this series. If you watched the games, you'd see that the starting 5's played each other to a pretty solid standstill (blowouts aside). Embiid wasn't this amazing +/- Unicorn on the court, and you can make an argument that he was probably the biggest let down for Philly in the series. He had a few moments, but he also had several sequences where he fouled or turned over the ball multiple possessions in a row, in the 4th quarter.

Meaning what specificially

I need to go back and watch to quote you the exact sequences, but there were at least two games (game 4 was one of them) that he gave away at the end. I get that he was sick, but that's still a letdown. I have serious concerns about Simmons, but he guarded Kawhi as well as anyone I've ever seen, so he's not my scapegoat this series.

I'd generally agree here. Harris and Embiid didn't perform to expectations, Simmons and Butler did to me. Embiid was sick, so I get his reason, but he still wasn't his normal self.

[bondom34]

Unrelated, and not necessarily this specific thread/forum but I'm really starting to think Giannis isn't getting close to his deserved respect. Every thread I see about the best player in the NBA starts with Lebron/Durant/Kawhi, and he's been best of them all to me.