2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[yoyoboy]

How do you guys feel as far as Giannis being the best player in the league after this series? Still on board with it?

Tbh I find that all the contenders for that title have disappointed me to varying degrees in these playoffs.

[70sFan]

Ugh. If Dallas doesn't win tonight there is not a single team left in the playoffs anyone can actually root for. What an unlikable 3 of the final 4 teams and the Suns aren't any better.

Dallas has to win to save the NBA.

You think Miami are that bad?

I'm a Dallas fan and you expect me to enjoy the Heat?

Wouldn't it be a nice series full of history?

[Texas Chuck]

I dont know what to make of Giannis passing or playmaking impact. Hes good there but I dunno how hed function in most systems that dont have the floor completely spaced out with 3pt shooters at every position

This is every star though. Nobody can play without spacing.

[eminence]

that was a roller coaster of emotions. malik fitts comes in, a guy ive never heard of in my life, gets hurt within the first minute. absolute bummer. and then he comes back and nails a three lol.

He was in Utah for a bit, bit of intrigue as a 3/D forward, but doesn't seem to have broken out anywhere

[Texas Chuck]

You think Miami are that bad?

I'm a Dallas fan and you expect me to enjoy the Heat?

Wouldn't it be a nice series full of history?

Oh if Dallas advances I'm definitely rooting for Miami to beat Boston so after Dallas makes quick work of GSW they can win the rubber match. But Miami vs Phoenix or GSW does nothing for the league or our enjoyment of the product.

[falcolombardi]

I dont know what to make of Giannis passing or playmaking impact. Hes good there but I dunno how hed function in most systems that dont have the floor completely spaced out with 3pt shooters at every position

This is every star though. Nobody can play without spacing.

more accurately, nobody can play without spacing and still produce 2022 levels of offense

the 3-point ball and the spacing it creates is why offenses jumped the way they did

[jalengreen]

How do you guys feel as far as Giannis being the best player in the league after this series? Still on board with it?

Tbh I find that all the contenders for that title have disappointed me to varying degrees in these playoffs.

he's still the best player in the world IMO he just isn't lebron. it's weird after lebron's run of dominance to get accustomed to the fact that the best player is no longer gonna be *that* dominant. but i am confident that he is #1 in the world.

[GSP]

I dont know what to make of Giannis passing or playmaking impact. Hes good there but I dunno how hed function in most systems that dont have the floor completely spaced out with 3pt shooters at every position

This is every star though. Nobody can play without spacing.

No it isnt. Playmakers like Bron, Jokic, Cp3 etc have shown they can be elite passing and making plays with bad or mediocre shooting support. Giannis cant do that

[GSP]

How do you guys feel as far as Giannis being the best player in the league after this series? Still on board with it?

Tbh I find that all the contenders for that title have disappointed me to varying degrees in these playoffs.

It has to be Giannis or Jokic no one else is close. We're too used to to a Goat in Bron being the best so now in naturally we'll be more disappointed by the next best since they wont hold a candle to him w/ much more weaknesses to their game. But theyre still great in their own right

[70sFan]

It's not about Bucks lack of shooting though, for most of the series they played completely unimaginative on offensive end. Bucks have shooters, but you have to make them open. Jrue/Giannis isos won't do that consistently, not against this kind of defense.

A lot of that is caused by Middleton injury, but Bucks have to make adjustments. It's the same thing that happened against Brooklyn last year, except that Celtics actually can defend.

[Doctor MJ]

I've been harping on the fact the Bucks' strategy focuses on protecting the interior and daring teams to beat them from 3.

As we look at the data from this series through the lens of the regular season:

In the regular season, Boston shots 37.1 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, placing them at 1.6 more 3's per game than league average and slightly above average %.

In the regular season, Milwaukee allowed 40.6 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, thus allowing 5.4 more 3's per game than league average with slightly below average in %.

In this series, Boston shot 41.7 3's per game on 37.6% shooting.

They obviously could have won the series if Boston's D wasn't so good, but yeah there's still an exploit in the Bucks' defensive strategy able to be exploited if you have enough skill.

[Texas Chuck]

I dont know what to make of Giannis passing or playmaking impact. Hes good there but I dunno how hed function in most systems that dont have the floor completely spaced out with 3pt shooters at every position

This is every star though. Nobody can play without spacing.

No it isnt. Playmakers like Bron, Jokic, Cp3 etc have shown they can be elite passing and making plays with bad or mediocre shooting support. Giannis cant do that

You mean the guy who didn't make the playoffs and the guy who lost in the first round and the guy in a game 7 against a mediocre Dallas team?

Yeah see they can't do it alone either. Odd to have unique standards for Giannis.

[Doctor MJ]

Bubble rematch for the ECF. Guess it wasn't a fluke.

[GSP]

This is every star though. Nobody can play without spacing.

No it isnt. Playmakers like Bron, Jokic, Cp3 etc have shown they can be elite passing and making plays with bad or mediocre shooting support. Giannis cant do that

You mean the guy who didn't make the playoffs and the guy who lost in the first round and the guy in a game 7 against a mediocre Dallas team?

Yeah see they can't do it alone either. Odd to have unique standards for Giannis.

Im talking about prime versions of them not when theyre 37yo

[70sFan]

The POY is definitely between Giannis and Jokic at this point. Unless Luka will do some of his magic, but I don't find it likely for him to reach that level. Tatum isn't consistent enough on offensive end and overall, I'd say he got outplayed by Giannis in the series (even with weak g7 performance from Antetokumpo).

[Doctor MJ]

Ugh. If Dallas doesn't win tonight there is not a single team left in the playoffs anyone can actually root for. What an unlikable 3 of the final 4 teams and the Suns aren't any better.

Dallas has to win to save the NBA.

So, I get that a bunch of smart people hear don't like the Warriors, but you do realize they are very popular amongst the "anyones" of the basketball world, right?

[GSP]

Im not sure how so many think we're unlikeable but somehow Milwaukee is likeable.... The team with Grayson Allen.... Bobby Portis goofy beady eyes anytime he does something..... And Giannis traveling, elbowing or offensive fouling every other possession while dancing and shaking around like a clown

Jrue is the only likeable part of the Bucks. There isnt anything unlikeable about Brook, Pat, Wes.... but theyre just there. Not likeable or unlikeable. Dont standout

[falcolombardi]

I've been harping on the fact the Bucks' strategy focuses on protecting the interior and daring teams to beat them from 3.

As we look at the data from this series through the lens of the regular season:

In the regular season, Boston shots 37.1 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, placing them at 1.6 more 3's per game than league average and slightly above average %.

In the regular season, Milwaukee allowed 40.6 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, thus allowing 5.4 more 3's per game than league average with slightly below average in %.

In this series, Boston shot 41.7 3's per game on 37.6% shooting.

They obviously could have won the series if Boston's D wasn't so good, but yeah there's still an exploit in the Bucks' defensive strategy able to be exploited if you have enough skill.

how was their offense compared to regular season?

i think bucks defense discussion is a red herring when boston struggled to score this series, the series was lost by their offense

essentislly reverse nets series where brooklyn offense scored well but their defense got them swept

[yoyoboy]

How do you guys feel as far as Giannis being the best player in the league after this series? Still on board with it?

Tbh I find that all the contenders for that title have disappointed me to varying degrees in these playoffs.

It has to be Giannis or Jokic no one else is close. We're too used to to a Goat in Bron being the best so now in naturally we'll be more disappointed by the next best since they wont hold a candle to him w/ much more weaknesses to their game. But theyre still great in their own right

That’s kinda where I’m at too. It almost feels wrong to crown a guy after showing clear weaknesses and struggles at times, but no one’s exactly just dominating across the board to the extent that LeBron did, so it has to be either Giannis or Jokic. Scoring on 51.6% TS, turning it over 5.1 times a game, and generally just struggling to impose himself against an older Horford all leave a bad taste in my mouth though.

[Texas Chuck]

I've been harping on the fact the Bucks' strategy focuses on protecting the interior and daring teams to beat them from 3.

As we look at the data from this series through the lens of the regular season:

In the regular season, Boston shots 37.1 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, placing them at 1.6 more 3's per game than league average and slightly above average %.

In the regular season, Milwaukee allowed 40.6 3's per game on 35.6% shooting, thus allowing 5.4 more 3's per game than league average with slightly below average in %.

In this series, Boston shot 41.7 3's per game on 37.6% shooting.

They obviously could have won the series if Boston's D wasn't so good, but yeah there's still an exploit in the Bucks' defensive strategy able to be exploited if you have enough skill.

They definitely play with fire. Utah does the same thing although less by scheme and more by our perimeter guys can't defend and don't rotate well so we are going to just try and funnel everything to Gobert. Gobert then really shuts down the paint, but Dallas showed that just by touching the paint and then kicking it you could get whatever you want.

And BroLo is a really good player, but you can't assign him to the guy who is just going to stand in the corner and make 45% of his 3's. I mean if Al Horford is going to beat him, then let him, but they needed to switch and put Giannis on Williams there. Williams had all day to take his slow release.