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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#501 » by mademan » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:37 pm

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Greyhound wrote:Serge’s ability to space the floor from the five spot, rim protect on the interior, and cover a bit on the perimeter (as a starter) is more valuable then anything Gallo can possibly provide off the bench.

The only thing that would make Gallo a better signing/ fit is if he signed for the vet minimum.

I doubt that happens.

Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD

That does not matter.

Serge could still carve out 26 to 30 minutes of playing time (even if he does not close most games).

He would also provide you with an AD lite supplement (to close games) in the event AD were to foul out (or go down for a stretch).

If Serge has anything left in the tank (for equal pay) I don’t even see why this is a discussion.


Lakers did well with minimum C's, and they can do it again. I dont see Dwight getting any more money than he got (maybe like 3 mill or something) and they still have McGee. All they need from their C's is to play the 5 for the RS, spare AD and maybe do the same for the first round. After that, AD will play the majority of the minutes at the 5. You dont need Ibaka for the playoffs. I would even argue that having him and being forced to play him minutes in the playoffs when you might be better off with AD at the 5 hurts in some circumstances.

Youre right, it's not a discussion. Gallo>Ibaka normally. Gallo is especially>>Ibaka when it comes to the Lakers
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Post#502 » by Greyhound » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:42 pm

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nzahir wrote:Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD

That does not matter.

Serge could still carve out 26 to 30 minutes of playing time (even if he does not close most games).

He would also provide you with an AD lite supplement (to close games) in the event AD were to foul out (or go down for a stretch).

If Serge has anything left in the tank (for equal pay) I don’t even see why this is a discussion.

What do you mean that does not matter?

The mot important thing is the final 8-10 min of a 4th quarter playoff game

Are we going to play that much of AD and a big in those closing 8-10 min?

Likely not

Why not focus on that? That is what matters most

It does not matter.

Just because a player is not closing games, it does not mean that he cannot provide value towards winning in the minutes he plays.

Keep in mind that all of this is under the assumption that Howard is gone.

Ibaka would start and play 24-30 minutes per game for the Lakers. Those McGee starting minutes would be replaced with Ibaka (floor spacing) minutes to open games. I don’t think many of you comprehend just how huge an upgrade that would be for the Lakers.

The Lakers would be able to play big without sacrificing spacing or rim presence on defense.
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#503 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:43 pm

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Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Do you think volume means rate of occurrence? That user is obviously referring to sample size

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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#504 » by Greyhound » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:51 pm

mademan wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
nzahir wrote:Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD

That does not matter.

Serge could still carve out 26 to 30 minutes of playing time (even if he does not close most games).

He would also provide you with an AD lite supplement (to close games) in the event AD were to foul out (or go down for a stretch).

If Serge has anything left in the tank (for equal pay) I don’t even see why this is a discussion.


Lakers did well with minimum C's, and they can do it again. I dont see Dwight getting any more money than he got (maybe like 3 mill or something) and they still have McGee. All they need from their C's is to play the 5 for the RS, spare AD and maybe do the same for the first round. After that, AD will play the majority of the minutes at the 5. You dont need Ibaka for the playoffs. I would even argue that having him and being forced to play him minutes in the playoffs when you might be better off with AD at the 5 hurts in some circumstances.

Youre right, it's not a discussion. Gallo>Ibaka normally. Gallo is especially>>Ibaka when it comes to the Lakers

Stop it.

Howard and Cousins are not your typical “minimum centers”. We are not talking Tyler Zeller or Mike Muscala here.


That is a disingenuous argument and you know it.

Gallo is a more talented player then Ibaka in a vacuum, but he will not provide more value to the Lakers.

All that being said, my position is as it has been for a while now. I would prefer that the Lakers bring back Howard (keeping him from GS) and Morris (at reasonable cost) then a full MLE dump for either Ibaka or Gallo.
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#505 » by dreamshake » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:55 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Do you think volume means rate of occurrence? That user is obviously referring to sample size

Ok buddy


So just to be clear, you believe 2020 Kyle Korver was a higher volume 3 point shooter than Klay Thompson has ever been in his career?
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#506 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:37 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Do you think volume means rate of occurrence? That user is obviously referring to sample size

Ok buddy


So just to be clear, you believe 2020 Kyle Korver was a higher volume 3 point shooter than Klay Thompson has ever been in his career?

Why not compare someone with even less mpg than Kyle Korver?

If you want sample size - Danny Green took 327 3PA in the regular season vs 325 for Schroder(115 vs 45 in PO). Here's your sample size
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#507 » by dreamshake » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:03 pm

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dreamshake wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Ok buddy


So just to be clear, you believe 2020 Kyle Korver was a higher volume 3 point shooter than Klay Thompson has ever been in his career?

Why not compare someone with even less mpg than Kyle Korver?

If you want sample size - Danny Green took 327 3PA in the regular season vs 325 for Schroder(115 vs 45 in PO). Here's your sample size


Fair enough - roughly equal sample size then.

You didn't answer the question about Korver/Klay tho - I'm genuinely curious if that's how you view volume and why.
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Post#508 » by dcstanley » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:35 pm

Kevin O'Connor: I've heard that Javale McGee is possibly leaving and Dwight Howard has interest around the league that could lure him away.

Javale and Bradley opting out would be ideal imo.
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Post#509 » by Greyhound » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:53 pm

dcstanley wrote:Kevin O'Connor: I've heard that Javale McGee is possibly leaving and Dwight Howard has interest around the league that could lure him away.

Javale and Bradley opting out would be ideal imo.

It is not ideal if they opt out.

It will cost money to replace them. Money the Lakers will not have once they sign Davis, KCP and use the MLE.

Their replacements will be “who he play for” type nobodies or has-beens with wooden peg legs.
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#510 » by kayess » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:08 pm

What's the eval for Matthews and Schroder? Eye-test + impact stats? Are those even done deals?
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Post#511 » by LikeABosh » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:53 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Do you think volume means rate of occurrence? That user is obviously referring to sample size

Ok buddy


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Post#512 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:03 pm

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Post#513 » by LikeABosh » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:09 pm

Greyhound wrote:
dcstanley wrote:Kevin O'Connor: I've heard that Javale McGee is possibly leaving and Dwight Howard has interest around the league that could lure him away.

Javale and Bradley opting out would be ideal imo.

It is not ideal if they opt out.

It will cost money to replace them. Money the Lakers will not have once they sign Davis, KCP and use the MLE.

Their replacements will be “who he play for” type nobodies or has-beens with wooden peg legs.


McGee opting out actually protects the ability for the Lakers to pay KCP and use the full MLE. If KCP wants a $15 million per contract then the Lakers probably won't be able to use the full MLE because of the hard cap. Another $4 million saved would really help

But if KCP only wants $12 million per then, yeah, it's better if McGee opts in.
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#514 » by dreamshake » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:13 pm

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When the interviewer asked, "is playing for the NBA Championship more important than a contract?" Gallinari responded "Yes. At this time, yes. I'm not 20 anymore."


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Post#515 » by LikeABosh » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:16 pm

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In that case, I hope the Hawks land Hayward
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Post#516 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:17 pm

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This would be really annoying. Dallas is hard enough to guard as is. Luka with another year of experience and dead eye shooters around him is going to be a nightmare.
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Post#517 » by dreamshake » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:24 pm

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This would be really annoying. Dallas is hard enough to guard as is. Luka with another year of experience and dead eye shooters around him is going to be a nightmare.


Hmm, their offense was already the best in the league. I feel like trying to improve offensively will give them diminishing returns. Defense is their weakness and Gallo only makes that worse. Really don't think it's a great move on their part.
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Post#518 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:25 pm

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Very glad he didn't go to the Warriors or Clippers.
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Post#519 » by dreamshake » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:28 pm

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Very glad he didn't go to the Warriors or Clippers.


I feel like the next half decade of drafts are just gonna be David Griffin and Sam Presti taking turns with the other 28 teams watching :D
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Post#520 » by xb3at band1tx » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:41 pm

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This would be really annoying. Dallas is hard enough to guard as is. Luka with another year of experience and dead eye shooters around him is going to be a nightmare.

Their defense still wouldn't be that great

I'd fear them more if they bolstered up on more defensive guys

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