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Post#501 » by Homer38 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:38 am

7-3 for the lakers since Westbrook is no longer with the lakers....It need to continue....I hope for 1 more playoff run for LBJ this year....
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Post#502 » by RRR3 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:38 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
RRR3 wrote:LeBron truly got hurt at the worst possible time because damn this team is infinitely better without Disasterbrook.


I’ll say this: if he comes back 100% healthy, this injury might have ended up becoming a blessing in disguise for a few reasons:

1) Fully recovered vs 80-90% and ready to go for playoffs.
2) AD coming into his own.

And let’s bear in mind they’ve been winning without DLo. Now, do I think they’re 100% better with than without DLo? Honestly, I’m not sure; it means guys like Reaves and Schroeder, who are positive defenders, play less. We’ll have to see what happens.

Idk if he doesn’t come back relatively soon idk how they can do seeding wise. If LeBron stayed healthy they probably would get into the top 6
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Post#503 » by RRR3 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:38 am

Homer38 wrote:7-3 for the lakers since Westbrook is no longer with the lakers....It need to continue....I hope for 1 more playoff run for LBJ this year....

And 1-5 for the Clippers since they got him.

I’ve literally never seen a player single-handedly capable of destroying good teams before. Hard to believe Westbrook used to be an elite player watching him these days.
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Post#504 » by Homer38 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:42 am

RRR3 wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
RRR3 wrote:LeBron truly got hurt at the worst possible time because damn this team is infinitely better without Disasterbrook.


I’ll say this: if he comes back 100% healthy, this injury might have ended up becoming a blessing in disguise for a few reasons:

1) Fully recovered vs 80-90% and ready to go for playoffs.
2) AD coming into his own.

And let’s bear in mind they’ve been winning without DLo. Now, do I think they’re 100% better with than without DLo? Honestly, I’m not sure; it means guys like Reaves and Schroeder, who are positive defenders, play less. We’ll have to see what happens.

Idk if he doesn’t come back relatively soon idk how they can do seeding wise. If LeBron stayed healthy they probably would get into the top 6



The other problem in 2021,it was Davis was not 100% healthy and he was not playing like that after his injury so if Davis stays healthy and continue to play at a high level and that LBJ comeback in 3-4 week,he will not need to carry the team from the start...Of course the lakers need to continue to win and I hope they will be in the top 6 at the end....top 8 must be the minimun before the play in
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Post#505 » by trickshot » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:48 am

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donnieme wrote:It used to be unthinkable for a team with Lebron to ever lack floor managing or playmaking. Davis is a big but is still relatively atrocious as a passing hub. He should never have to make non-scoring decisions, not even as a rollman.


He’s fine passing as a roll man lol guys ain’t looking

"Fine" here is meaningless if you really want to challenge that. What do you think is "fine" about his roll passing? Can he make decisions in your typical 4v3 situation? Can he feed the shooters pockets on the move or time the lob? What exactly is fine? He's a PnR finishing god. That doesn't make him a good passing rollman. AD draws a lot of help on the roll, defenses are scared stiff of letting him catch the ball on the move, if his roll passing was even just "fine" the rest of the league would have no chance.
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Post#506 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:53 am

donnieme wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
donnieme wrote:It used to be unthinkable for a team with Lebron to ever lack floor managing or playmaking. Davis is a big but is still relatively atrocious as a passing hub. He should never have to make non-scoring decisions, not even as a rollman.


He’s fine passing as a roll man lol guys ain’t looking

"Fine" here is meaningless if you really want to challenge that. What do you think is "fine" about his roll passing? Can he make decisions in your typical 4v3 situation? Can he feed the shooters pockets or time the lob? What exactly is fine?


Bro I do not need to define what fine means lmfao

ADs been fine at making reads off passes for awhile this year and whenever we run post counters lol, a few high turnover games don’t mean anything, a lot of his dimes guys were dropping past few.

This ain’t that deep bruh, he ain’t Jokic but calling him atrocious is wild lmao.

What do you think happens as a roll man when u don’t got a shooting pick and roll partner my guy
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Post#507 » by rk2023 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:01 am

Reminds of me a quote from earlier this season :lol: :lol:

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Post#508 » by letskissbro » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:09 am

What's the timeline on LeBron's injury recovery? Like when will he be fully 100% healthy. I know it's 4-6 weeks before he can return but I'm worried it will be a 2021 Suns situation when he gets back.
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Post#509 » by trickshot » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:16 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
donnieme wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
He’s fine passing as a roll man lol guys ain’t looking

"Fine" here is meaningless if you really want to challenge that. What do you think is "fine" about his roll passing? Can he make decisions in your typical 4v3 situation? Can he feed the shooters pockets or time the lob? What exactly is fine?


Bro I do not need to define what fine means lmfao

ADs been fine at making reads off passes for awhile this year and whenever we run post counters lol, a few high turnover games don’t mean anything, a lot of his dimes guys were dropping past few.

This ain’t that deep bruh, he ain’t Jokic but calling him atrocious is wild lmao.

What do you think happens as a roll man when u don’t got a shooting pick and roll partner my guy

I think you need to look closer, both at the post and on the court. I called him "relatively atrocious as a passing hub". You're going to have to deconstruct "relatively" and "passing hub". Passing hub emphasizes point of creation. AD's relatively low passing ability is also why you can't run offense through him as a hub. Now we can move to his passing as a rollman, Even with all the ingredients present, with the entire defense shading to stop him on the roll his creation is poor. This doesn't happen by simply being average.

AD has the biggest gravity in the league as a rollman. If he was even just average creating plays on the move, on the catch or whatever situation a rollman could get it (4v3s included) his teams would be looking at a top 5 offense minimum. It's okay, players have to have a weakness somewhere.
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Post#510 » by LikeABosh » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:17 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
RRR3 wrote:LeBron truly got hurt at the worst possible time because damn this team is infinitely better without Disasterbrook.


I’ll say this: if he comes back 100% healthy, this injury might have ended up becoming a blessing in disguise for a few reasons:

1) Fully recovered vs 80-90% and ready to go for playoffs.
2) AD coming into his own.

And let’s bear in mind they’ve been winning without DLo. Now, do I think they’re 100% better with than without DLo? Honestly, I’m not sure; it means guys like Reaves and Schroeder, who are positive defenders, play less. We’ll have to see what happens.


Reaves' minutes are basically the same with or without Dlo. It's Walker and Schroder that have had their minutes increased and I don't believe they're better off with either of those guys over Dlo. The offense looked much smoother with him
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Post#511 » by nzahir » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:17 am

Homer38 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
I’ll say this: if he comes back 100% healthy, this injury might have ended up becoming a blessing in disguise for a few reasons:

1) Fully recovered vs 80-90% and ready to go for playoffs.
2) AD coming into his own.

And let’s bear in mind they’ve been winning without DLo. Now, do I think they’re 100% better with than without DLo? Honestly, I’m not sure; it means guys like Reaves and Schroeder, who are positive defenders, play less. We’ll have to see what happens.

Idk if he doesn’t come back relatively soon idk how they can do seeding wise. If LeBron stayed healthy they probably would get into the top 6



The other problem in 2021,it was Davis was not 100% healthy and he was not playing like that after his injury so if Davis stays healthy and continue to play at a high level and that LBJ comeback in 3-4 week,he will not need to carry the team from the start...Of course the lakers need to continue to win and I hope they will be in the top 6 at the end....top 8 must be the minimun before the play in

Can we make top 8 though?

Requires Minny or LAC to lose some more games

Or for GS or Mavs to fall apart, but not seeing that as very likely, but who knows with injuries and health
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Post#512 » by RRR3 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:35 am

What is the minimum amount of games LeBron will miss from here on out?
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Post#513 » by xb3at band1tx » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:36 am

This team really does feel like they have a next man up mentality.

Rui picked up the slack for Beas today. The only one I have reservations about is Lonnie.
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Post#514 » by trickshot » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:48 am

xb3at band1tx wrote:This team really does feel like they have a next man up mentality.

Rui picked up the slack for Beas today. The only one I have reservations about is Lonnie.

It was actually really good. Watching Westbrook's Lakers for 2 years I even forgot it was possible for the Lakers to win a close game in that fashion. Usually they'd take the lead and the comedy of errors would start. This was 3 minutes of pure execution.
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Post#515 » by zimpy27 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:52 am

RRR3 wrote:What is the minimum amount of games LeBron will miss from here on out?


6 more games at minimum was timeline but that lands on 23rd when they play the Suns. I expect that to be missed too.

So 7 more games is my guess.
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Post#516 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:57 am

donnieme wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
donnieme wrote:"Fine" here is meaningless if you really want to challenge that. What do you think is "fine" about his roll passing? Can he make decisions in your typical 4v3 situation? Can he feed the shooters pockets or time the lob? What exactly is fine?


Bro I do not need to define what fine means lmfao

ADs been fine at making reads off passes for awhile this year and whenever we run post counters lol, a few high turnover games don’t mean anything, a lot of his dimes guys were dropping past few.

This ain’t that deep bruh, he ain’t Jokic but calling him atrocious is wild lmao.

What do you think happens as a roll man when u don’t got a shooting pick and roll partner my guy

I think you need to look closer, both at the post and on the court. I called him "relatively atrocious as a passing hub". You're going to have to deconstruct "relatively" and "passing hub". Passing hub emphasizes point of creation. AD's relatively low passing ability is also why you can't run offense through him as a hub. Now we can move to his passing as a rollman, Even with all the ingredients present, with the entire defense shading to stop him on the roll his creation is poor. This doesn't happen by simply being average.

AD has the biggest gravity in the league as a rollman. If he was even just average creating plays on the move, on the catch or whatever situation a rollman could get it (4v3s included) his teams would be looking at a top 5 offense minimum. It's okay, players have to have a weakness somewhere.



His post passing is fine lmao. Post passing is dependent on post counters and he generally makes the right reads when we set up counters. This is the same with bron. It’s not as simple as help = open man

His playmaking as a roll man is fine but he obviously looks to score far more as he should, but again it’s different depending on who the pick and roll playmaker is and schroder isn’t the type of guy that creates clear 4v3 playmaking situations even though he’s been solid in general

Obviously it’s a relative weakness compared to the rest of his game but atrocious is an exaggeration

Yeah if he was an elite passer he’d be better, but it’s a relative weakness not some sort of area he’s deficient in. The reads aren’t there sometimes with the current roster and he looks to score most of the time, he makes the right read more in the post but even as a roll man he’s been fine
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Post#517 » by ardee » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:18 am

RRR3 wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
RRR3 wrote:LeBron truly got hurt at the worst possible time because damn this team is infinitely better without Disasterbrook.


I’ll say this: if he comes back 100% healthy, this injury might have ended up becoming a blessing in disguise for a few reasons:

1) Fully recovered vs 80-90% and ready to go for playoffs.
2) AD coming into his own.

And let’s bear in mind they’ve been winning without DLo. Now, do I think they’re 100% better with than without DLo? Honestly, I’m not sure; it means guys like Reaves and Schroeder, who are positive defenders, play less. We’ll have to see what happens.

Idk if he doesn’t come back relatively soon idk how they can do seeding wise. If LeBron stayed healthy they probably would get into the top 6


They could get top 6 anyway. They're literally 2 games out of that spot and the next four games are very winnable, especially if Russell comes back.
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Post#518 » by ardee » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:31 am

Davis has been 33/14 on 56% from the floor the last 5 games. Giannis numbers.
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Post#519 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:33 am

ardee wrote:Davis has been 33/14 on 56% from the floor the last 5 games. Giannis numbers.


Defense has been insane too
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Post#520 » by xb3at band1tx » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:45 am

His defense was game-breaking in this grizzlies win. They could barely get anything in those last couple minutes in the 4th.

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