2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5181 » by cpower » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:53 am

Giannis amazing finals, very deserved champion!
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5182 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:54 am

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bondom34 wrote:I'm going to start this post in a weird way but I want to note this because it hit me watching, but Bobby Portis has been really solid for the Bucks.


Saying that my goodness. I'm not sure I remember a finals game quite this dominant, and that's including Lebron games. Maybe I'm missing one but Giannis is literally everywhere doing everything and I don't recall anything quite like it.


This game felt like LeBron's 4th quarter in Game 6 against the Spurs in 2013, except for the whole entire game. Giannis just made plays after plays like that iconic LeBron sequence in that quarter where he blocked Duncan and scored on him at the other end. He just did it for the whole game instead of a quarter.

Absolutely insane performance.

Yeah I think I misspoke. Might well be the best playoff game ever, not just finals.


It's probably too early to say and there are so many iconic performances that you can't really choose one, but in the moment, this game felt as good as any game ever. It's definitely up there. It was like watching some unholy combination of Shaq and KG.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5183 » by bondom34 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:55 am

I think I'd just say I'm not sure there is a single "best player" right now. Just like a year ago. I don't know if Giannis is really any better than he was after back to back MVPs, but folks saw losing to the Heat as some massive negative to an individual player instead of recognizing its a team sport. Same for Jokic this year. But right now don't know it matters much either, just glad I saw that game because my goodness what a performance.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5184 » by kayess » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:57 am

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bondom34 wrote:I'm going to start this post in a weird way but I want to note this because it hit me watching, but Bobby Portis has been really solid for the Bucks.


Saying that my goodness. I'm not sure I remember a finals game quite this dominant, and that's including Lebron games. Maybe I'm missing one but Giannis is literally everywhere doing everything and I don't recall anything quite like it.


This game felt like LeBron's 4th quarter in Game 6 against the Spurs in 2013, except for the whole entire game. Giannis just made plays after plays like that iconic LeBron sequence in that quarter where he blocked Duncan and scored on him at the other end. He just did it for the whole game instead of a quarter.

Absolutely insane performance.


I'd say it felt like that for the last 3-4 minutes of the 2nd up until the end of the 3rd, then for the relevant portion of the game in the 4th when it wasn't just a foul-fest/keepaway.

That's still like 50% more than LeBron's game 6 though.
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Post#5185 » by eminence » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:57 am

Imo there usually isn't a clear cut best player. Only player I think who's truly accomplished it in my time watching basketball (back to late 90's) is LeBron.
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Post#5186 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:57 am

WE F****ING DID IT

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Post#5187 » by Dupp » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:59 am

One of the goat close out games. A bad free throw shooter shooting 17/19 ( with one miss being irrelevant) is incredibly clutch
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Post#5188 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:03 am

Feels good to see Giannis put up big numbers. I'm almost tempted to go back to last year and cite all the people who gave Giannis crap for not being able to shoot and being a bum as a result of it.
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Post#5189 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:06 am

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Time flies! Absolutely insane performance tonight
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Post#5190 » by Odinn21 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:07 am

I couldn't find the exact post of mine, I remember saying "Antetokounmpo is modern-day David Robinson" as for offensive tendencies and shortcomings. He just played to prove me wrong as much as I could be. That was one hell of a finals series performance.

I'm always careful with getting carried away (as I already get annoyed by off-season comparisons like 2021 Antetokounmpo vs. anyone you can think of). But this was a 50/14 (+ elite defense) title-clinching performance.

Congratulations to the Bucks and their fans!
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Post#5191 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:09 am

Imma give the general board the business but y'all clever people also need to have a long think about how you've let your anchoring bias affect your evaluations of Giannis. You've nearly all **** up real bad but I'll give you some rope.
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Post#5192 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:11 am

AussieBuck wrote:Imma give the general board the business but y'all clever people also need to have a long think about how you've let your anchoring bias affect your evaluations of Giannis. You've nearly all **** up real bad but I'll give you some rope.

What is anchoring bias?
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Post#5193 » by Goudelock » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:11 am

Odinn21 wrote:I couldn't find the exact post of mine, I remember saying "Antetokounmpo is modern-day David Robinson" as for offensive tendencies and shortcomings. He just played to prove me wrong as much as I could be. That was one hell of a finals series performance.

I'm always careful with getting carried away (as I already get annoyed by off-season comparisons like 2021 Antetokounmpo vs. anyone you can think of). But this was a 50/14 (+ elite defense) title-clinching performance.

Congratulations to the Bucks and their fans!


The offense was awesome, but that very well may have been the greatest defensive performance I have ever seen. Man defended the rim in the halfcourt, was a menace in transition, and shut down anyone he guarded on the perimeter. Whenever CP3 got Giannis on the switch, CP3 wasn't going anywhere.

Like I get that he's 36, but I'd never have imagined that a seven-foot rim protector guarding an elite point guard would be considered a bad matchup for the offense.
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Post#5194 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:14 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Imma give the general board the business but y'all clever people also need to have a long think about how you've let your anchoring bias affect your evaluations of Giannis. You've nearly all **** up real bad but I'll give you some rope.

What is anchoring bias?



I don't know but as one of the few guys standing up for Giannis itt when the ridiculous narratives were rolling earlier in the playoffs I feel no need to give anyone the business but certainly don't mind feeling a bit vindicated.

And I'd hope Aussie stops and enjoys the moment more than he worries about rubbing the haters noses in it. This should be a time of joy not petty revenge tours. :lol:
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Post#5195 » by therealbig3 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:15 am

Giannis made me eat my words. Well, not exactly, I still don't think we should be too hot takey after one dominant series and an amazing closeout game like that...but man, what a performance. Now that was a legit GOAT-level game from Giannis, just amazing.

Maybe it's because I don't want to give Milwaukee credit, or because I'm kind of in the "in what world does CP3 deserve a title for?" crowd and kind of enjoy seeing his team lose again just to shut up all the "he's just so unlucky, he really deserves a title" arguments, but I found the Suns to be pretty disappointing all in all. Like, they made the Finals and were within 2 games of the championship, and absolutely destroyed preseason expectations, so it was an astounding success as far as the season is concerned...best Suns team in a long time. But specifically in this playoff run, I was never blown away by a team that on paper, should have been a bona fide contender without any obvious weaknesses. Like, I think they get smashed by a lot of recent champions, not just Warriors super teams, and that shouldn't be the case when you look at their personnel. But they never "wowed" me. Played 3 extremely injured teams on their way to the Finals, and then got gentlemen swept by the one relatively healthy team they played. While they themselves were relatively healthy outside of a CP3 injury early in the playoffs (but even then, they were playing against Davis on one leg and a never fully recovered LeBron).

But I'm willing to admit that I've been a hater of the Bucks and Suns throughout this year at various points, as well as Giannis and CP3 as individual players throughout their careers at various points, so it's totally possible I'm not being objective and just hating. But does anyone else feel underwhelmed by the Suns, once you look past the fact that they overachieved preseason expectations so much?
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Post#5196 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:15 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Imma give the general board the business but y'all clever people also need to have a long think about how you've let your anchoring bias affect your evaluations of Giannis. You've nearly all **** up real bad but I'll give you some rope.

What is anchoring bias?



I don't know but as one of the few guys standing up for Giannis itt when the ridiculous narratives were rolling earlier in the playoffs I feel no need to give anyone the business but certainly don't mind feeling a bit vindicated.

And I'd hope Aussie stops and enjoys the moment more than he worries about rubbing the haters noses in it. This should be a time of joy not petty revenge tours. :lol:

I might do tour of the Raptors board not gunna lie. :lol:
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Post#5197 » by Odinn21 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:16 am

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Odinn21 wrote:I couldn't find the exact post of mine, I remember saying "Antetokounmpo is modern-day David Robinson" as for offensive tendencies and shortcomings. He just played to prove me wrong as much as I could be. That was one hell of a finals series performance.

I'm always careful with getting carried away (as I already get annoyed by off-season comparisons like 2021 Antetokounmpo vs. anyone you can think of). But this was a 50/14 (+ elite defense) title-clinching performance.

Congratulations to the Bucks and their fans!


The offense was awesome, but that very well may have been the greatest defensive performance I have ever seen. Man defended the rim in the halfcourt, was a menace in transition, and shut down anyone he guarded on the perimeter. Whenever CP3 got Giannis on the switch, CP3 wasn't going anywhere.

Like I get that he's 36, but I'd never have imagined that a seven-foot rim protector guarding an elite point guard would be considered a bad matchup for the offense.

Antetokoumpo's presence got to minds of Phoenix players real bad. I mean there were possessions in the 4th like Ayton would've dunked 99 out of 100 times but he didn't dare to look at the rim because Antetokounmpo was there, even he was off-position. Ayton just refused to try scoring. Then similar with Booker, and then similar with Paul.
The only player who wasn't afraid to attack the rim and create something was effing Crowder.
Phoenix players were rattled by sheer presence of Antetokounmpo. That's the sign of an insane defensive player.
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Post#5198 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:17 am

therealbig3 wrote:Giannis made me eat my words. Well, not exactly, I still don't think we should be too hot takey after one dominant series and an amazing closeout game like that...but man, what a performance. Now that was a legit GOAT-level game from Giannis, just amazing.

Maybe it's because I don't want to give Milwaukee credit, or because I'm kind of in the "in what world does CP3 deserve a title for?" crowd and kind of enjoy seeing his team lose again just to shut up all the "he's just so unlucky, he really deserves a title" arguments, but I found the Suns to be pretty disappointing all in all. Like, they made the Finals and were within 2 games of the championship, and absolutely destroyed preseason expectations, so it was an astounding success as far as the season is concerned...best Suns team in a long time. But specifically in this playoff run, I was never blown away by a team that on paper, should have been a bona fide contender without any obvious weaknesses. Like, I think they get smashed by a lot of recent champions, not just Warriors super teams, and that shouldn't be the case when you look at their personnel. But they never "wowed" me. Played 3 extremely injured teams on their way to the Finals, and then got gentlemen swept by the one relatively healthy team they played. While they themselves were relatively healthy outside of a CP3 injury early in the playoffs (but even then, they were playing against Davis on one leg and a never fully recovered LeBron).

But I'm willing to admit that I've been a hater of the Bucks and Suns throughout this year at various points, as well as Giannis and CP3 as individual players throughout their careers at various points, so it's totally possible I'm not being objective and just hating. But does anyone else feel underwhelmed by the Suns, once you look past the fact that they overachieved preseason expectations so much?


Jeez...you basically just made a giant post to mask a hater posts with some type of faux analysis.

The Suns were a great team. There is nothing that happened in this season that proved otherwise.
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Post#5199 » by Strepbacter » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:20 am

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Paul ain't winning ****.



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Post#5200 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:20 am

I wish we could see a live feed of Harden's reaction to watching "the running and dunking guy with no skills" win a ring before him - and not have to run to a superteam to do it.
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