All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[Doctor MJ]

I have a question for you guys: Would you leave an MVP type player on the board for fit and select a guy who's not even All Star level (assuming the MVP type player also fits well and the other player has All Star impact just not numbers)?

I'm just wondering because some of these teams can make some big moves but I'm noticing they aren't taking them.

If the MVP type player also fits why wouldn't -said drafter- take him?

To me this sounds like the fundamental debate people are having which could be re-stated as:

Should I choose Player A over Player B simply because Player A was a worse scorer?

And the way people really focused on the rules are playing, it seems to me like the answer is yes, and that my team will need to be DQed or handicapped in some way because I didn't draft that way.

[Doctor MJ]

Mo Cheeks was a good pick. Really good fit guy when you have a talented roster. He was on my radar for sure.

Yeah, love Mo Cheeks. I was hoping to get him as a backup, but I'm actually glad he went well before I had the opportunity to do so.

[Doctor MJ]

Millsap's a nice pick for Doc, although I suspect he's probably going to feel the FGA crunch very soon, if not already

Pretty sure Doc's been clear he's ignoring the FGA restrictions....

Yeah, I'm starting to really think about the consequences of this now.

In my previous experience with FGA limitations it was based on how many shots you had to allocate, and you had to justify how someone would be deal with playing in a very different role from what they did on their NBA team, so at the start that's what I read it as. When I started seeing people pick really one-dimensional players I thought they were doing so because that was just the players they came to mind for them, but in retrospect it seems clear that they were thinking about the game and actively choosing against guys with better all-around skills and great attitudes which might be why I was so happy with the guys who were dropping to me.

I can't say I totally regret it because I'm building a team in the way that makes sense to me - picking Bird first wasn't even a strategy, I just wanted to build a team around him based on the modern league context. I'm sorry though if I end up putting people in an awkward place.

[ronnymac2]

Great picks so far guys. I like making created teams on Whatifsports.com. I'm seeing combos I've never seen that I like. Pretty cool.

That said, the exciting part is coming up now, because now we're getting into maybe not-so-obvious player territory. In my head, I've got about 25 unselected-as-of-yet players who NEED to be taken in a competition like this.

Willing to consult with GMs for $10,000 per suggestion, not accepting BitCoin yet, please respond with inquiries in this thread only (Not Private Message), thank you.

[MisterHibachi]

Great picks so far guys. I like making created teams on Whatifsports.com. I'm seeing combos I've never seen that I like. Pretty cool.

That said, the exciting part is coming up now, because now we're getting into maybe not-so-obvious player territory. In my head, I've got about 25 unselected-as-of-yet players who NEED to be taken in a competition like this.

Willing to consult with GMs for $10,000 per suggestion, not accepting BitCoin yet, please respond with inquiries in this thread only (Not Private Message), thank you.

[theonlyclutch]

Yo, just a friendly reminder that you are on OTC, not the others quoted

[AustinCarr61]

With the 73rd Pick in the All Time Fantasy Draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers select:



Michael Cooper, 1986-1987, 9.0 FGA/G
Defensive Player of the Year, All-Defensive First Team, NBA Champion
RS: 10.5 PTS @ 53.6 TS% (38.5% on 2.8 3PA/G), 3.1 TRB, 4.5 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.5 BLK, 117 ORTG, 108 DRTG, 14.0 PER, .131 WS/48
PS: 13.0 PTS @ 64.0 TS% (48.6% on 3.9 3PA/G), 3.3 TRB, 5.0 AST, 1.4 STL, 0.8 BLK, 123 ORTG, 108 DRTG, 16.7 PER, .165 WS/48

With Conley off the board (who was the perfect fit for me as a PG), I decided to pivot to another option. Coop was a great athlete, an excellent defensive player and a very good shooter (especially for the time period). He gives me another versatile defender - able to check PGs due to his quickness (as he often did for Magic) but also hang with 2s and 3s as for such a skinny guy he had surprising strength - he used to guard Larry Bird in those Celtics-Lakers duels. And he has enough ball handling to survive as the nominal PG opposite a handling 2 like Wade - stealing this from an old post:

In 1986, Magic missed 10 games and Cooper started as replacement. Excluding one game where he only played 23 minutes, Cooper averaged 12.1 assists on 3.7 turnovers without Magic that season. That's elite level PG numbers.

And it gives me another player with a sensational post-season - those box score numbers are absolutely elite for a role player who is playing DPOY-caliber defense. Depending on what I do with my last three picks, he may start or come off the bench (a role he is obviously comfortable with) but I feel I needed to pounce here.

You're up

[E-Balla]

Sorry for the delay - crashed out after Cavs game

Michael Cooper, 1987

39% on 3 3PA/G in regular season, 49% on 4 3PA/G in playoffs, and DPOY defense.

Was a decent secondary ball-handler and shot creator (4.5 / 5.0 AST/G) and can guard 1-3. Probably going to play long stretches without an official PG (Wade/Cooper backcourt) now Conley is gone.

You're up

NOOOOOOOO. This was totally my next pick. I was wondering how a DPOY averaging 9 shots a game and 39% from deep was still available. He and Nash would be a perfect PG rotation.

[KidPistol]

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[Clyde Frazier]

I'm surprised no one chose [ ] yet... He'd be pretty efficient off someone's bench.

From the OP...

I would just like to remind you guys that you shouldn't mention any players who haven't been selected yet. You can discuss here, but only about already selected players.

[KidPistol]

I'm surprised no one chose Kenny the Jet yet... He'd be pretty efficient off someone's bench.

From the OP...

I would just like to remind you guys that you shouldn't mention any players who haven't been selected yet. You can discuss here, but only about already selected players.

Sorry didn't see that, I'll remove it.

[Owly]

I'm surprised no one chose [redacted Player X] yet... He'd be pretty efficient off someone's bench.

From the OP...

I would just like to remind you guys that you shouldn't mention any players who haven't been selected yet. You can discuss here, but only about already selected players.

Sorry didn't see that, I'll remove it.

Obviously you have, and Clyde has since edited his post to remove said player, but your quote of him (quoting you) still features said player.

[wojoaderge]

If Sabonis has a 96 DRtg, McAdoo has a 99 DRtg, and my still-undrafted potential starting SF has a 102 DRtg but with a poor defensive reputation, does this mean I have a good defensive frontcourt?

[E-Balla]

If Sabonis has a 96 DRtg, McAdoo has a 99 DRtg, and my still-undrafted potential starting SF has a 102 DRtg but with a poor defensive reputation, does this mean I have a good defensive frontcourt?

Sorry to be the one to break it to you but DRTG doesn't measure individual defense well unless you think the boxscore measures defense well. It basically just uses team DRTG, steals, blocks, and defensive rebounds to create a defensive rating. Carlos Boozer had some if the league's highest DRTGs in Chicago (I actually think he lead the league one year) despite having the lowest defensive on/off on the team.

[Statlanta]

I have a question for you guys: Would you leave an MVP type player on the board for fit and select a guy who's not even All Star level (assuming the MVP type player also fits well and the other player has All Star impact just not numbers)?

I'm just wondering because some of these teams can make some big moves but I'm noticing they aren't taking them.

If the MVP type player also fits why wouldn't -said drafter- take him?

Possibly slightly lower FGs I'll admit I don't know these guy's plans but there's a few picks where I could see a better option in a better player who isn't similar but doesn't step on the toes of the rest of the team.

Freakiest part of your comment is that I feel my team is one of those teams(especially with the hindsight of a couple of rounds)

[E-Balla]

It's been 6 hours you're up.

Still your turn.

[Statlanta]

With my pick of this round I'm taking '11 Lamar Odom.

[eminence]

Caught me just before I was headed out the door, with my 5th round pick I select Joakim Noah

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[Square]

I need a wing, but there are still a few on the board I like. On the other hand, there's only one backup PG I've had my eye on for a while...



"Mr. Sonic", Nate McMillan.

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[E-Balla]

I need a wing, but there are still a few on the board I like. On the other hand, there's only one backup PG I've had my eye on for a while...



"Mr. Sonic", Nate McMillan.

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In the last 5 picks I lost the only backup PGs I've even considered. That's crappy ain't it?

I guess instead of getting Nate or Coop like I wanted to I'll go with 03 Doug Christie (7.0 FGAs).



Great defense, good shooting, athletic, and can pass. Fits perfectly as my backup wing.