(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

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Post#561 » by rk2023 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:37 pm

I’m not too sold on trading DLo for Lavine (I’ve seen some talks and rumors) unless such a trade yields Caruso. The gamble of this is banking on LeBron and Reaves doing more on-ball without tiring out and being run into the ground. Obviously you’re getting an amazing play finisher at the perimeter, but I don’t know how Lavine himself elevates the Lakers ceiling. Now Caruso being involved makes things interesting - as him and Davis can be a two man army on defense.

None of this is with thinking about feasibility and financial implications of trade btw. More or less a rambling
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Post#562 » by Heej » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:19 am

rk2023 wrote:I’m not too sold on trading DLo for Lavine (I’ve seen some talks and rumors) unless such a trade yields Caruso. The gamble of this is banking on LeBron and Reaves doing more on-ball without tiring out and being run into the ground. Obviously you’re getting an amazing play finisher at the perimeter, but I don’t know how Lavine himself elevates the Lakers ceiling. Now Caruso being involved makes things interesting - as him and Davis can be a two man army on defense.

None of this is with thinking about feasibility and financial implications of trade btw. More or less a rambling

DLo is an important locker room presence and is cool with not closing games. And of all places to maximize him in his career it's this situation. RJ and Channing turned the locker room around to bring the Cavs together if you remember the stories from back then. DLo seemingly has a great effect here as well.
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Post#563 » by RRR3 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:23 am

They're never ready to play somehow
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Post#564 » by homecourtloss » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:32 am

Not sure how old the Lakers have convinced themselves that some player like cam reddish is fit to play nine straight minutes to start a game. Rui has been looking really good and should be getting these minutes and when Gabe Vincent comes back and Jared Vanderbilt comes back, Reddish should be out of the rotation.

Also, if Taurean prince is not going to make three pointers, he doesn’t need to start — put Rui Hachimura in there.
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Post#565 » by RRR3 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:34 am

homecourtloss wrote:Not sure how old the Lakers have convinced themselves that some player like cam reddish is fit to play nine straight minutes to start a game. Rui has been looking really good and should be getting these minutes and when Gabe Vincent comes back and Jared Vanderbilt comes back, Reddish should be out of the rotation.

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Post#566 » by RRR3 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:37 am

How is Christian Wood featured so little in the offense? That is coaching malpractice, scoring is what he's good at
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Post#567 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:28 am

homecourtloss wrote:Not sure how old the Lakers have convinced themselves that some player like cam reddish is fit to play nine straight minutes to start a game. Rui has been looking really good and should be getting these minutes and when Gabe Vincent comes back and Jared Vanderbilt comes back, Reddish should be out of the rotation.

Also, if Taurean prince is not going to make three pointers, he doesn’t need to start — put Rui Hachimura in there.


I like Rui, I get why reddish has been playing though he’s even good as of late, has dumb plays and great ones as well

I get why they want Rui being a first guy off the bench type guy rather than with the starters first but he should finish games
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Post#568 » by letskissbro » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:50 am

This team **** sucks. LeBron would you please just leave the Lakers already holy **** join Embiid in Philly or something
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Post#569 » by letskissbro » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:56 am

homecourtloss wrote:Not sure how old the Lakers have convinced themselves that some player like cam reddish is fit to play nine straight minutes to start a game. Rui has been looking really good and should be getting these minutes and when Gabe Vincent comes back and Jared Vanderbilt comes back, Reddish should be out of the rotation.

Also, if Taurean prince is not going to make three pointers, he doesn’t need to start — put Rui Hachimura in there.

Prince is a 6'7 forward averaging 1.9 rebounds in 30 mpg...
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Post#570 » by Mos_Heat » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:28 am

Lebron looks really good, but the team as a whole is meh. Just not enough consistency across the roster
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Post#571 » by dcstanley » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:32 am

homecourtloss wrote:Not sure how old the Lakers have convinced themselves that some player like cam reddish is fit to play nine straight minutes to start a game. Rui has been looking really good and should be getting these minutes and when Gabe Vincent comes back and Jared Vanderbilt comes back, Reddish should be out of the rotation.

Also, if Taurean prince is not going to make three pointers, he doesn’t need to start — put Rui Hachimura in there.

Taurean Prince makes Cam Reddish look like Scottie Pippen. I'm not sure they could afford to lose Reddish's defense. They're already completely unathletic on the perimeter.
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Post#572 » by RRR3 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:33 am

How has Pelinka had 5 years to build around LeBron and done a bad job every time?
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Post#573 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:40 am

Back to back against the kings was never gonna be a win lol
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Post#574 » by rk2023 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:41 am

Cam, Bron, and Dlo were the only three guys to show up tonight.

Kings are a great offense and play with blistering pace. That said, losing boils down to AR/AD not coming remotely close to Kevin Huerter and Sabonis.
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Post#575 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:45 am

rk2023 wrote:Cam, Bron, and Dlo were the only three guys to show up tonight.

Kings are a great offense and play with blistering pace. That said, losing boils down to AR/AD not coming remotely close to Kevin Huerter and Sabonis.


I get we want AR to learn through experience but god his playmaking is rough
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Post#576 » by Gregoire » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:46 am

Playoffs is a long shot :nod:
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Post#577 » by RRR3 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:48 am

Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:

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Post#578 » by The Master » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:52 am

They'll get better soon, both individually and as a team they underperform badly right now.

But there's no upside for Lakers to become real contenders, they're too old (LeBron and AD, unfortunately) and young (coaching, streaky depth of younger players) at the same time. It's so chaotic, lol, in this moment.
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Post#579 » by Todeasy » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 am

RRR3 wrote:How is Christian Wood featured so little in the offense? That is coaching malpractice, scoring is what he's good at

He was involved plenty I thought. Especially in the third damn near every possession started with a screen and him spacing then flowed into another screen by Hayes/Rui. Just cause we're not dumping it down to him every possession doesn't mean he's not involved.
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Post#580 » by LA Bird » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:57 am

LeBron currently averaging a career high 65.1% TS...

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