(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

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Re: The LeBron James - 23-24 Regular Season Thread - (Part 1) (NO BAITING & NO INSULTING) 

Post#581 » by rk2023 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:57 am

Reported Gregoire for baiting, no point to even bother
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Post#582 » by rk2023 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:58 am

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rk2023 wrote:Cam, Bron, and Dlo were the only three guys to show up tonight.

Kings are a great offense and play with blistering pace. That said, losing boils down to AR/AD not coming remotely close to Kevin Huerter and Sabonis.


I get we want AR to learn through experience but god his playmaking is rough


He’s still a very good connector (rebounding great tonight), but yea.. that’s the double edged sword of on ball target practice. If Lavine trade rumors become more tangible, having to rely on LeBron ball and an on ball spike for Reaves is more a concern for me.
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Post#583 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:00 am

Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:


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Post#584 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:01 am

rk2023 wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
rk2023 wrote:Cam, Bron, and Dlo were the only three guys to show up tonight.

Kings are a great offense and play with blistering pace. That said, losing boils down to AR/AD not coming remotely close to Kevin Huerter and Sabonis.


I get we want AR to learn through experience but god his playmaking is rough


He’s still a very good connector (rebounding great tonight), but yea.. that’s the double edged sword of on ball target practice. If Lavine trade rumors become more tangible, having to rely on LeBron ball and an on ball spike for Reaves is more a concern for me.


If anything it feels like we want Reaves to grow into that second ball handler since we don’t play Dlo in some fourths, if we get lavine we probably dial that back

Anyways it’s about getting bron and AD in healthy both of them were hurt last playoffs and somehow AS is already hurt rn lol
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Post#585 » by nzahir » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:22 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
I get we want AR to learn through experience but god his playmaking is rough


He’s still a very good connector (rebounding great tonight), but yea.. that’s the double edged sword of on ball target practice. If Lavine trade rumors become more tangible, having to rely on LeBron ball and an on ball spike for Reaves is more a concern for me.


If anything it feels like we want Reaves to grow into that second ball handler since we don’t play Dlo in some fourths, if we get lavine we probably dial that back

Anyways it’s about getting bron and AD in healthy both of them were hurt last playoffs and somehow AS is already hurt rn lol

AD with a 9 and 5 TO game....wtf

So 21 year old Lebron has to be a #1 on offense.....

End of the game we have a Reaves and Bron/AD pick and roll, a Bron iso/post up, an AD iso/post up.

Either need to go get Lavine and try to get a stronger offense or go the defensive route

Even if you get Lavine, you need a strong defensive guard next to him. Reaves would need to come off the bench as well

But is Lavine even good enough to make a real difference vs Dlo, Rui, and some others (JHS, etc)?

What route do you guys go?

I feel like were probably better off going the defensive route and playing bigger. Lavine's huge contract and needing to move Dlo and Rui probably makes the deal less great
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Post#586 » by zimpy27 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:34 am

Team is fine, they gave up 4 more TOs and 8 more OREBs..

So Kings had 12 more shots..

It's all energy stuff. They need Vando. Some energy role players are key.
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Post#587 » by nzahir » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:54 am

zimpy27 wrote:Team is fine, they gave up 4 more TOs and 8 more OREBs..

So Kings had 12 more shots..

It's all energy stuff. They need Vando. Some energy role players are key.

What about the playoffs? It is also about talent as well and having an identity

Some role guys we should be looking at:
Caruso: Can go Caruso, 1 of Dlo and Reaves, Bron, AD, and then 1 of Wood or Rui
DFS: Would be an upgrade overall to Cam, Vando, or Prince as he isn't a guy you will want to leave open on 3s
Burks?: Solid shooter, maybe not enough room in the backcourt though

I think we can also really use a backup C who is a solid defender when AD sits. Defense won't work with Hayes or Wood being the main C. I like Wood next to AD, not stand alone

Caruso for Vincent/Prince, JHS/future 1st with some protections, 2nds?
Get a C with Christie, salary, and 2nds? Prince/Vincent for salary?

Dlo, Caruso, Bron, Rui/Wood, AD
Reaves, Vando, Rui/Wood, Center
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Post#588 » by zimpy27 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:20 am

nzahir wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Team is fine, they gave up 4 more TOs and 8 more OREBs..

So Kings had 12 more shots..

It's all energy stuff. They need Vando. Some energy role players are key.

What about the playoffs? It is also about talent as well and having an identity

Some role guys we should be looking at:
Caruso: Can go Caruso, 1 of Dlo and Reaves, Bron, AD, and then 1 of Wood or Rui
DFS: Would be an upgrade overall to Cam, Vando, or Prince as he isn't a guy you will want to leave open on 3s
Burks?: Solid shooter, maybe not enough room in the backcourt though

I think we can also really use a backup C who is a solid defender when AD sits. Defense won't work with Hayes or Wood being the main C. I like Wood next to AD, not stand alone

Caruso for Vincent/Prince, JHS/future 1st with some protections, 2nds?
Get a C with Christie, salary, and 2nds? Prince/Vincent for salary?

Dlo, Caruso, Bron, Rui/Wood, AD
Reaves, Vando, Rui/Wood, Center



They will try harder on playoffs but yeah they could do with more offensive boards..

Part of why I like Caruso, Vando and Wood as role players. They rebound well for their position.

Prince+JHS should be enough for Caruso.


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Post#590 » by thebigbird » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:45 pm

I’m so done with AD. Dude is one of the most inconsistent stars I’ve ever seen. How do you score 9 points in 35 minutes while getting sonned by Sabonis? Anyone who thinks he’s the Lakers’ best player is kidding themselves. It’s still, somehow, a nearly 39 year old Bron. If you showed someone who knew nothing about the Lakers one of their games, they’d think LeBron was the 30 year old and AD was the one turning 39 in a month.
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Post#591 » by homecourtloss » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:14 pm

LA Bird wrote:LeBron currently averaging a career high 65.1% TS...


65.1% TS, career high
63.1% eFG, career high
66.7% on 2P shots, career high
84.4% FG at the rim, career high
24.3% DREB%, career high
13.9% TREB%, career high
2.3 BLK%, 3rd highest of career

:lol:

Obviously many if not all of these will fall off a bit or more as the season progresses, but to even have ANYTHING career best at 39 years old is absolutely wild. Turnovers have been bad though.
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Post#592 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:49 pm

Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:


What's more of a long shot? The Lakers making the playoffs or you deleting your account?
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Post#593 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:52 pm

nzahir wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
He’s still a very good connector (rebounding great tonight), but yea.. that’s the double edged sword of on ball target practice. If Lavine trade rumors become more tangible, having to rely on LeBron ball and an on ball spike for Reaves is more a concern for me.


If anything it feels like we want Reaves to grow into that second ball handler since we don’t play Dlo in some fourths, if we get lavine we probably dial that back

Anyways it’s about getting bron and AD in healthy both of them were hurt last playoffs and somehow AS is already hurt rn lol

AD with a 9 and 5 TO game....wtf

So 21 year old Lebron has to be a #1 on offense.....

End of the game we have a Reaves and Bron/AD pick and roll, a Bron iso/post up, an AD iso/post up.

Either need to go get Lavine and try to get a stronger offense or go the defensive route

Even if you get Lavine, you need a strong defensive guard next to him. Reaves would need to come off the bench as well

But is Lavine even good enough to make a real difference vs Dlo, Rui, and some others (JHS, etc)?

What route do you guys go?

I feel like were probably better off going the defensive route and playing bigger. Lavine's huge contract and needing to move Dlo and Rui probably makes the deal less great


If we decide to go the Lavine route, I only want to do that if Caruso comes with. If that happens, I have no problem offloading Reaves as a trade chip. I'm sure the Bulls would want him.

The problem is that's $49mil in salary we'd need to come close to. $12 mil in Reaves, what else? The Lakers would destroy their depth because they'd have to move DLo, Rui, and Prince or JHS.
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Post#594 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:54 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Team is fine, they gave up 4 more TOs and 8 more OREBs..

So Kings had 12 more shots..

It's all energy stuff. They need Vando. Some energy role players are key.


I think they're fine too for the RS, but I won't lie, now that teams gameplan for Reaves, especially teams with decent-to-good perimeter defense, he's really, really struggling with the ball. As a result, he's overdribbling a ton and killing the team's offense with poor shots at the end of the clock, not to mention the live ball turnovers. He needs to collect himself and slow down, improve his reads, and play simple basketball.

As for AD, that was embarrassing, adductor or not.

Oh, and Hayes needs to be replaced ASAP. The guy can't play. For all his athletic gifts, his IQ and positioning on defense are atrocious. That foul where he whacked Sabonis in the face with his forearm had me so confused, thinking, "How in the world did you manage that??"
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Post#595 » by Ian Scuffling » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:57 pm

Lebron making his own luck was truly brilliant and in part pretty damned prescient. Because, the fact of the matter he has been one very unlucky player in this league. It started immediately, too, with Boozer taking off, not realizing Lebron's talent. The 7 years of Mike Brown and Cleveland's front office malfeasance. So, then he takes his talents and lack of luck to Miami, thus creating his own luck. A few great years and then his number 2 falls off of a cliff, production wise. A little sooner than all expected. So, he creates more of his own luck and gets back to Cleveland with a great team, just to run into possibly the greatest collection of talent the NBA has ever seen in the GS Warriors. And in those years in Cleveland, both Irving(2) and Love(3) get hurt before the first finals. Some luck this guy has. Then, some more bad luck comes around in the guise of Kyrie Irving thinking he's much more than he is, wanting to be the number one on another team and leaves. James still leads them to the finals against that Warriors team. But, damn, a great 8 years of play going to an unbelievable 8 straight Finals, especially in a non-expansion era. Now, in LA, his number 2, which should be the number 1 by now, refuses to grab that mantle. Why, I never got mad, even as a Cleveland fan, that he made his OWN luck.
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Post#596 » by PaulieWal » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:03 am

Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:


This is not an official warning, but I am not sure what you gain out of these baiting one-liners after Lakers lose. The next one will be an official warning.
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Post#597 » by PaulieWal » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:03 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:


https://chat.openai.com/

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When he clicks on that link
;pp=ygUSbXIga3JhYnMgYm9vcCBiZWVw


Replying to bait with bait doesn't lead anywhere and results in a warning for everyone involved.

Report the post and move on.
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Post#598 » by AEnigma » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:25 am

homecourtloss wrote:
LA Bird wrote:LeBron currently averaging a career high 65.1% TS...

65.1% TS, career high
63.1% eFG, career high
66.7% on 2P shots, career high
84.4% FG at the rim, career high
24.3% DREB%, career high
13.9% TREB%, career high
2.3 BLK%, 3rd highest of career

:lol:

Obviously many if not all of these will fall off a bit or more as the season progresses, but to even have ANYTHING career best at 39 years old is absolutely wild. Turnovers have been bad though.

I guess all that just might qualify him as a top fifty player still.
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Post#599 » by The High Cyde » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:34 am

Dang top 50? He fallen off that much? I didn’t really think about ranking him this season, but hmm I’d say he’s more top 15-30 any given night now.
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Post#600 » by MyUniBroDavis » Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:15 am

PaulieWal wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Gregoire wrote:Playoffs is a long shot :nod:


https://chat.openai.com/

^

When he clicks on that link
;pp=ygUSbXIga3JhYnMgYm9vcCBiZWVw


Replying to bait with bait doesn't lead anywhere and results in a warning for everyone involved.

Report the post and move on.


Hes been baiting on lebron threads for a minute, I think its fine to joke about it especially with the messages he sent all the people hes trying to bait, this thread is pretty different from the rest of the forum anyway in a few ways, otherwise he shouldnt be allowed to post in the thread anymore given all he does is bait on here lol

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