2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[falcolombardi]

Ive never thought winning a game to go to the finals can feel so deflating...................Warriors are gonna kill us

you really underate your own team bro

boston is excellent, have some faith in your guys

Boston being favored by 3 on the road in game 7 really tells me something. They are built to take on the Warriors though I’m not sure if they’ve expended too much energy.

Steph hasn’t had a great run so far, but I’m expecting him to erupt in at least one of these first two games. If Boston can take one, I think they can win the series.

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

[MyUniBroDavis]

not the best final shot by jimmy but i'm willing to live and die by jimmy butler if i'm the heat. i'm not gonna criticize him that much for it personally (but i understand why others may)

He went for the kill shot, not gonna diss him for having balls lol

[ronnymac2]

I thought Jimmy's shot was the right play. MIA's offense was not getting clean looks in the HCO all game and MIA obviously would have physically succumbed to the workload in an overtime scenario. It was a clean look by a guy shooting and playing well. Just didn't connect. It happens. Amazing game by Butler. His rebound against White with 10 minutes left was savage, and the play a minute later where Smart let it go out and Jimmy chased after it and threw it off Smart was tremendous as well.

I'll be honest, I was taken aback when people on this board were comparing Butler's run to MJ and LBJ. Whether I agree or disagree, Butler is a competitor on their level and an absolute do-whatever-it-takes stud. Offensive rebounds, POA defense, protecting the rim, posting up...guy is a winner. He had a bum wheel and eight years on the other team's best player and still outcompeted him and quite frankly clearly outplayed him in the series.

Have to give Boston their due though. They won a GM 7 on the road against a team that wouldn't quit. Great game by Horford, gutsy offensive plays in the second half by Smart. Should be a good Finals.

[GSP]

Jimmy shot 34% from 3 in playoffs mostly in transition. Even this game the 3 he hit was in transition with White sagging off him like Al did. There was nothing wrong with that shot and Al being able to contest with the space he was giving up without fouling and get a stop or block with how he defended all game was likely. Anyone criticizing Jimmy is a bonehead IMO

[eminence]

There were probably better plays available, but pulling up for an open 3 wasn't a bad play either

[TheGOATRises007]

you really underate your own team bro

boston is excellent, have some faith in your guys

Boston being favored by 3 on the road in game 7 really tells me something. They are built to take on the Warriors though I’m not sure if they’ve expended too much energy.

Steph hasn’t had a great run so far, but I’m expecting him to erupt in at least one of these first two games. If Boston can take one, I think they can win the series.

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

Warriors were favored then as well even without KD.

I don't think the Celtics are as good as the Raptors, because Tatum isn't as good as Kawhi and that Raptors' defense was amazing too.

Also, I think the Warriors are a better team now than they were in 2019(without KD obviously). Pretty sure their net rating in the playoffs thus far is higher than 2015 and 2019.

But I also don't think the Warriors are winning this easily. The Celtics are a very good team.

[GSP]

There were probably better plays available, but pulling up for an open 3 wasn't a bad play either

What was the better play exactly..... We get back in transition. Strus isnt doing anything. Lowry is too far back and isnt taking Grant off the dribble that far out. Jaylen is already in position to slide down and help......the only other play was to get it to a cutting Oladipo who hasnt been finishing well or shooting free throws well for is he misses or gets fouled.......no one else was back and our defense wouldve been set if he waited much longer. With how Al was defending that game he couldve easily gotten a stop or block with that much space and hed already gotten a couple stops on Jimmy at the rim this game too. id take my chances with a Jimmy 3 which he already made in transition earlier this game

[ahmetmekin]

Boston being favored by 3 on the road in game 7 really tells me something. They are built to take on the Warriors though I’m not sure if they’ve expended too much energy.

Steph hasn’t had a great run so far, but I’m expecting him to erupt in at least one of these first two games. If Boston can take one, I think they can win the series.

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

Warriors were favored then as well even without KD.

I don't think the Celtics are as good as the Raptors, because Tatum isn't as good as Kawhi and that Raptors' defense was amazing too.

Also, I think the Warriors are a better team now than they were in 2019(without KD obviously). Pretty sure their net rating in the playoffs thus far is higher than 2015 and 2019.

But I also don't think the Warriors are winning this easily. The Celtics are a very good team.

Cousins, old Iggy, Quinn Cook, Alfonzo Mckinnie got plenty of minutes. I don't think the supporting cast of 22 Warriors and 19 warriors are comparable.

[GSP]

how much credit should Lowry get for Jimmys playoff run?

Is it a coincidence that Jimmy and Kawhi both had these same dominant alltime runs where they looked like prime Mj/Bron at points and games with Lowry as their Pg?

[falcolombardi]

how much credit should Lowry get for Jimmys playoff run?

Is it a coincidence that Jimmy and Kawhi both had these same dominant alltime runs where they looked like prime Mj/Bron at points and games with Lowry as their Pg?

lowry was great for the raptors in 19 but i dont think he was the reasom kawhi was dominating individually

less so in 2022 with butler

[Fadeaway_J]

how much credit should Lowry get for Jimmys playoff run?

Is it a coincidence that Jimmy and Kawhi both had these same dominant alltime runs where they looked like prime Mj/Bron at points and games with Lowry as their Pg?

Large chunks of that run came without Lowry playing at all (including the 41 in Game 1)

[eminence]

There were probably better plays available, but pulling up for an open 3 wasn't a bad play either

What was the better play exactly..... We get back in transition. Strus isnt doing anything. Lowry is too far back and isnt taking Grant off the dribble that far out. Jaylen is already in position to slide down and help......the only other play was to get it to a cutting Oladipo who hasnt been finishing well or shooting free throws well for is he misses or gets fouled.......no one else was back and our defense wouldve been set if he waited much longer. With how Al was defending that game he couldve easily gotten a stop or block with that much space and hed already gotten a couple stops on Jimmy at the rim this game too. id take my chances with a Jimmy 3 which he already made in transition earlier this game

That still is very late in the play after Butler has already not pushed the ball and is pulling up.

Jimmy needed to push harder from the jump and get towards the rim to see what happens.

Jimmy was at 26% on the season for pullup 3s going into this game. He's just not a good enough shooter for him shooting early clock off the dribble 3s to ever be a great look.

Even an Oladipo catch and shoot (another not great shooter) is a better look.

[HeartBreakKid]

you really underate your own team bro

boston is excellent, have some faith in your guys

Boston being favored by 3 on the road in game 7 really tells me something. They are built to take on the Warriors though I’m not sure if they’ve expended too much energy.

Steph hasn’t had a great run so far, but I’m expecting him to erupt in at least one of these first two games. If Boston can take one, I think they can win the series.

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

its not uncommon for homers to say their team will get eliminated at every challenge. p sure he has picked against the celtics in nearly every series lol

i honestly do not get how beating the heat guarantees they will struggle to the warriors who have never beaten a team as good as the heat.


its really bizarre how little people think of the heat.

[HeartBreakKid]

The Celtics are actually throwing this game away.

Not really. The heat would have had to score 13-0 to win. It was pretty unlikely they werent coming out of this even when it was 11-0.

what? they had the ball down 2 with 20 seconds left

Yeah and they had made 11-0. The Heat were already overdue for a missed shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

[TheGOATRises007]

Not really. The heat would have had to score 13-0 to win. It was pretty unlikely they werent coming out of this even when it was 11-0.

what? they had the ball down 2 with 20 seconds left

Yeah and they had made 11-0. The Heat were already overdue for a missed shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

Come on

What kind of argument is that man

[GSP]

Boston being favored by 3 on the road in game 7 really tells me something. They are built to take on the Warriors though I’m not sure if they’ve expended too much energy.

Steph hasn’t had a great run so far, but I’m expecting him to erupt in at least one of these first two games. If Boston can take one, I think they can win the series.

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

its not uncommon for homers to say their team will get eliminated at every challenge. p sure he has picked against the celtics in nearly every series lol

i honestly do not get how beating the heat guarantees they will struggle to the warriors who have never beaten a team as good as the heat.


its really bizarre how little people think of the heat.

I only picked the Bucks against us.... i knew for a fact wed destroy fraud ass Brooklyn. Thought Giannis would be too much like in 19 but them losing Khris turned out to be way bigger than i thought

we shouldve beat Miami in 5. They had an injured Jimmy, Lowry in and out of the lineup. Pj missing games and Herro missing 4 straight games.....their 3rd/4th best player and 6moy. The fact that it went 7 and basically to the final minute of game 7 is horrible

if it was against a fully healthy Heat team maybe itd be a better pill to swallow but not like this............

[GSP]

Not really. The heat would have had to score 13-0 to win. It was pretty unlikely they werent coming out of this even when it was 11-0.

what? they had the ball down 2 with 20 seconds left

Yeah and they had made 11-0. The Heat were already overdue for a missed shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

makes 0 sense just strong confirmation bias really. If you werent worried about the Heat possibly pulling ahead and stealing that during that run youre just lying to yourself/others here

[falcolombardi]

to explain my comparision of boston and raptors, is because both are full of great defenders in every position, have a pest defensive guard (smart/lowry) a brilliant defense center who shots 3's (gasol/horford) a great defensive wing (tatum/kawhi) and great switching and no weak links

the difference with those raptors i think comes in the offensive end (althougg let it be said toronto won with a merely "ok" offense) tatum is not the scorer kawhi was, smart is not the passer lowry was, brown vs 19 siakam are comparable level players i guess

warriors have a less scary curry (assuming he doesnt finally catch fire in the finals) but their depth is much stronger now than their durant-less 2019 version

[falcolombardi]

do you think this series doesnt have some vibes of 2019 finals?

tatum is not kawhi, curry has slowed down, warriors have stronger depth now, etc

but i feel some similitudes

its not uncommon for homers to say their team will get eliminated at every challenge. p sure he has picked against the celtics in nearly every series lol

i honestly do not get how beating the heat guarantees they will struggle to the warriors who have never beaten a team as good as the heat.


its really bizarre how little people think of the heat.

I only picked the Bucks against us.... i knew for a fact wed destroy fraud ass Brooklyn. Thought Giannis would be too much like in 19 but them losing Khris turned out to be way bigger than i thought

we shouldve beat Miami in 5. They had an injured Jimmy, Lowry in and out of the lineup. Pj missing games and Herro missing 4 straight games.....their 3rd/4th best player and 6moy. The fact that it went 7 and basically to the final minute of game 7 is horrible

if it was against a fully healthy Heat team maybe itd be a better pill to swallow but not like this............

my brother in christ, your team last championship got taken to 7 by the 38 win hawks

being taken to 7 by heat has nothingh on that lol

[GSP]

to explain my comparision of boston and raptors, is because both are full of great defenders in every position, have a pest defensive guard (smart/lowry) a brilliant defense center who shots 3's (gasol/horford) a great defensive wing (tatum/kawhi) and great switching and no weak links

the difference with those raptors i think comes in the offensive end (althougg let it be said toronto won with a merely "ok" offense) tatum is not the scorer kawhi was, smart is not the passer lowry was, brown vs 19 siakam are comparable level players i guess

warriors have a less scary curry (assuming he doesnt finally catch fire in the finals) but their depth is much stronger now than their durant-less 2019 version

We dont have an offball defensive guard that can stick to Steph like Fvv could. He even got an Fmvp vote for his defense on him. Smart loses shooters alot happened against Brooklyn and against Miami. Bucks have 1 dimensional shooters so we didnt have to worry as much

and Jaylen is way better than Siakam we saw what happened the next playoffs when they matched up.........19 Warriors didnt have a Jordan Poole off the bench........hes averaging 18/5/3 on .673ts in playoffs.........i didnt mention Iggy since hes basically in Wiggins spot with Kd out for that series

19 Warriors didnt have Gp2 or Opj either. Opj gives at least a half of what Iggy gave. Gp2 is one of the best defensive Pgs, can hit open 3s and is a monster cutter and offensive rebounder.........this team is way more dynamic and dangerous