What do you guys think of Cowens being in the conversation soon? I think he's a mini version of Walton and KG to an extent. Elite defense and rebounding, fabulous passing (halfcourt and on the break) and floor spacing puts him in an elite class of "makes teammates better offensively" - and he's still pretty respectable as scoring when the team needed it, getting up 19-20ppg, he was the Celtics leading scorer in 76 which is the year I plan on voting for. He also seems like one the players who plays with enough energy and heart that it legitimately improves his teammates'. He's as crazy as KG. KG and Walton are clearly better, but the concept of taking a franchise C who can anchor a defense while doing a lot of great supporting things offensively, and perfect intangibles, has value.
I think Moses, Dwight, Cowens is an interesting argument. Moses is the best offensively, but clearly the worst defensively and I don't trust his impact on the defensive glass nearly as much as the other two. Dwight and Cowens are probably close defensively, offensively they are yin and yang - Dwight the powerful scorer who doesn't make his teammates better via passing or floor spacing at all, while that's Cowen's strength. Dwight still makes his teammates better by attracting defense attacking the basket though. I'll have to think about that one (leaning Dwight), but I'd probably take both over Moses. As with Ewing, I believe getting a much better defensive player who still does a lot offensively, is preferrable to Moses who's awesome offensively but hard to trust defensively. The 83 Sixers with Cowens or Howard would've killed the league too.
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Still surprised of seeing no Baylor mentions at all.
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colts18 wrote:Saying Howard is just as good as Moses on offense is ridiculous. Not even close
Moses is definitely much better than Dwight offensively. The gap is almost as big as Karl Malone vs Dwight IMO.
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83 Moses - 7 (JordansBulls, ardee, SDChargers#1, bastillon, Lightning25, DavidStern, PTB Fan)
03 T-Mac - 4 (therealbig3, Dr Positivity, C-izMe, fatal9)
98 K. Malone - 1 (ElGee)
83 Moses - 7 (JordansBulls, ardee, SDChargers#1, bastillon, Lightning25, DavidStern, PTB Fan)
03 T-Mac - 4 (therealbig3, Dr Positivity, C-izMe, fatal9)
98 K. Malone - 1 (ElGee)
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Alright, Moses takes it.
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