Interesting Kobe vs Curry stats

[kabstah]

So teams play the same in 2007 as they do now? What about in 2012?


Does Curry even play the same way he played in 2012 as he plays right now......

Pace has not changed that much nor has the league's average TS% since then, so I'm not really sure what you're going on about. Furthermore, there's a lot more talent in the league now, especially at the guard positions, so you'd have to also factor that in. Lastly, Steph's numbers are largely deflated due to the fact that he spends half his time off-the-ball unlike other guards like Harden and Westbrook.

If the argument you're trying to make is that these numbers are close because of the "era", it's a wrong one.

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

2012 was a lockout year so league wide TS% was slightly lower than normal. It was just a reduced level of play overall due to a more grueling schedule and less prep time. In 2011 it was 54.1, and in 2013 it was 53.5.

Furthermore, this year's league wide TS% is 55.6. I have no idea where you got 56.8 from.

Lastly, the entire league is more efficient because players and coaching are getting smarter and coming to the realization that 3>2. The game has changed, but that's a pro-Curry argument.

[G35]

Pace has not changed that much nor has the league's average TS% since then, so I'm not really sure what you're going on about. Furthermore, there's a lot more talent in the league now, especially at the guard positions, so you'd have to also factor that in. Lastly, Steph's numbers are largely deflated due to the fact that he spends half his time off-the-ball unlike other guards like Harden and Westbrook.

If the argument you're trying to make is that these numbers are close because of the "era", it's a wrong one.

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

You do realize that Curry is a huge reason why this current era has evolved and developed into the way it is, right? You can't possibly use that against him. He's revolutionized the game from that standpoint.

As for offenses being more efficient, that's not just because of the 3PT line. It's because offenses are getting more sophisticated with the ball movement and are generating better and better looks for themselves. Furthermore, the different between Curry's TS and today's league average is wider than Kobe's and his league's average considerably, so your argument doesn't hold much water in that regard.

Not arguing any of those points.

I'm just saying the NBA is played differently now.

I didn't argue the difference between Curry and Kobe. My point is the difference between eras. If you don't think this is the golden age of 3pt shooting and it makes a difference between eras then we can agree to disagree.......

[clyde21]

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

You do realize that Curry is a huge reason why this current era has evolved and developed into the way it is, right? You can't possibly use that against him. He's revolutionized the game from that standpoint.

As for offenses being more efficient, that's not just because of the 3PT line. It's because offenses are getting more sophisticated with the ball movement and are generating better and better looks for themselves. Furthermore, the different between Curry's TS and today's league average is wider than Kobe's and his league's average considerably, so your argument doesn't hold much water in that regard.

Not arguing any of those points.

I'm just saying the NBA is played differently now.

I didn't argue the difference between Curry and Kobe. My point is the difference between eras. If you don't think this is the golden age of 3pt shooting and it makes a difference between eras then we can agree to disagree.......

But I still don't understand how that applies to this particular comparison. Are you saying that Curry's numbers are inflated compared to Kobe?

[Reservoirdawgs]

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

Your first example is pretty obvious...Curry was "only" taking 4.7 threes per game because of Mark Jackson. It's not a huge shock that when Jackson was removed and Kerr came in that the shackles that Jackson had put on Curry were taken off and Curry was able to start playing to his strengths. So why has Curry's 3PA doubled? Well...because Curry and Morey's Rockets changed the game. Curry's skills are so unique and his offensive impact is so massive that his coach recognized that his team flourishes when he jacks up shots because A) he can make it; B) his team benefits through the spacing and the amount of attention the other team gives him. Curry should be given even more credit than he is because he and Morey's Rockets showed that teams were undervaluing the 3 point shot.

This gets into your second question, which is why the entire league is more efficient. It's more efficient because people are taking and making more threes and are abandoning the mid-range and low percent 2's. Again, it's a credit to Curry that he has transformed the league the way he has.

[G35]

Pace has not changed that much nor has the league's average TS% since then, so I'm not really sure what you're going on about. Furthermore, there's a lot more talent in the league now, especially at the guard positions, so you'd have to also factor that in. Lastly, Steph's numbers are largely deflated due to the fact that he spends half his time off-the-ball unlike other guards like Harden and Westbrook.

If the argument you're trying to make is that these numbers are close because of the "era", it's a wrong one.

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

2012 was a lockout year so league wide TS% was slightly lower than normal. It was just a reduced level of play overall due to a more grueling schedule and less prep time. In 2011 it was 54.1, and in 2013 it was 53.5.

Furthermore, this year's league wide TS% is 55.6. I have no idea where you got 56.8 from.

Lastly, the entire league is more efficient because players and coaching are getting smarter and coming to the realization that 3>2. The game has changed, but that's a pro-Curry argument.

You're right I don't know how I got .568.

But I don't know how the entire league changing to a more efficient league because everyone is shooting more 3's is a pro-Curry argument. Yes, I agree Curry changed the league, he's going to go down as the greatest shooter all time.

My point is that you can't compare eras. Curry in the NBA prior to 1980 is not the same player.

I said trying to compare stats across eras is unfair to all players......

[Reservoirdawgs]

I said trying to compare stats across eras is unfair to all players......

That's why you would compare TS% relative to league average (which I believe a poster already did).

[kabstah]

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

2012 was a lockout year so league wide TS% was slightly lower than normal. It was just a reduced level of play overall due to a more grueling schedule and less prep time. In 2011 it was 54.1, and in 2013 it was 53.5.

Furthermore, this year's league wide TS% is 55.6. I have no idea where you got 56.8 from.

Lastly, the entire league is more efficient because players and coaching are getting smarter and coming to the realization that 3>2. The game has changed, but that's a pro-Curry argument.

You're right I don't know how I got .568.

But I don't know how the entire league changing to a more efficient league because everyone is shooting more 3's is a pro-Curry argument. Yes, I agree Curry changed the league, he's going to go down as the greatest shooter all time.

My point is that you can't compare eras. Curry in the NBA prior to 1980 is not the same player.

I said trying to compare stats across eras is unfair to all players......

It's a pro-Curry argument because he's playing in a smarter and more sophisticated league than the one Kobe played in. GSW would absolutely steamroll any Laker team that Kobe's ever played on, with any set of rules that Kobe's ever played under.

Who cares about Curry in the NBA prior to 1980? That's totally unrelated and irrelevant to the topic.

[dhsilv2]

What do you mean? You can't get to 2 wins without winning 1. You can't get to 3 wins without winning two first. The more wins accumulate that harder it is to get that extra win. This is why pushing a team from 50 wins to 70 is intrinsically harder to do than pushing a team from 10 to 30.

This doesn't answer the question at all, but if in your mind it does then ok.

This is why when you put LeBron on a 25 win team, he'll take them to 50 wins, but he won't take a 50 win team to 75 wins.

Hm, after some point yes, once you get higher up there in the wins there is less and less room for error, but if were talking about 2 scenarios in a vacuum its hard to say which was more impressive, because we don't know what other factors were involved. In any case you can't solely credit a player for any amount of wins.

But i'm trying to keep the example in more realistic expectations. The 73 wins from the warriors, took Curry playing out of his mind, excellent team health and some luck to happen. They will not reach that again even though they added Kevin Durant, why? Because it's highly unlikely they see that kind of health with their stars again.

I was expanding further on the point? I was literally following up on it in the same paragraph.

But like we already agree, Curry didn't add 20 wins to a team, he was already apart of them so what was the point of saying that?

If you're gonna keep using those silly emojis and not debate like an adult, i'm not going to continue replying to you.

Then what's the issue if Curry himself didn't go to a 55 win team? You're still failing to make a coherent point.

How did i not make a coherent point? You are like usual failing at reading comprehension, and creating responses to stuff made up in your own mind.

Once again, Thekdog said Jordan and Curry were the only players to take a 55 win team to 70. And again, i can't think of too many superstars if any that specifically went to an already 55 win team to have that opportunity. It's not meant as a knock on Curry, all i'm saying is just because other players have't done it doesn't mean they can't if given the opportunity. He went on to agree.

If we already know that Curry didn't go to an already established team, then what are you harping on exactly?

17 warriors were better in terms of SRS and thus expected wins (65-67). However to the question of if it is harder to add wins beyond a threshold, well KD was added to the warriors and they moved up only a hair in expected win loss, with some pieces leaving.

It is really hard to see players increase an already positive plus minus team, 538 touched on that when they discussed Curry as an MVP candidate last year.

I'd recomend looking at this more in terms of point differential vs just wins and losses as point differential is a better metric without noise.

[G35]

Not talking about pace.

Curry 3PA
2012 - 4.7
2018 - 9.8

Why have his 3PA doubled and that isn't even his highest. He was at 11.2 in 2016, that has nothing to do with pace, but that change in thinking in how the game is played.

Furthermore:

NBA TS% average
2012 - .527
2018 - .568

The entire league is more efficient...why?........

Your first example is pretty obvious...Curry was "only" taking 4.7 threes per game because of Mark Jackson. It's not a huge shock that when Jackson was removed and Kerr came in that the shackles that Jackson had put on Curry were taken off and Curry was able to start playing to his strengths. So why has Curry's 3PA doubled? Well...because Curry and Morey's Rockets changed the game. Curry's skills are so unique and his offensive impact is so massive that his coach recognized that his team flourishes when he jacks up shots because A) he can make it; B) his team benefits through the spacing and the amount of attention the other team gives him. Curry should be given even more credit than he is because he and Morey's Rockets showed that teams were undervaluing the 3 point shot.

This gets into your second question, which is why the entire league is more efficient. It's more efficient because people are taking and making more threes and are abandoning the mid-range and low percent 2's. Again, it's a credit to Curry that he has transformed the league the way he has.

Once again...I originally said the game is different than it was when Kobe was playing. Why everyone chooses to ignore that is on them.

But if you think that Kobe couldn't come down and take 8-10 3PA's and hit 38% and it wouldn't change his TS% over his career and you are being bias.

Now I know people are going to say, look at his career 3pt shooting, no way Kobe can shoot the 3pt shot better. Kobe practice mid range shots, he practiced playing out the post.

Don't tell me that Kobe couldn't practice and shoot at least as good as James Harden, Lebron, or Durant.

Eras dictate how players play. This is the era of how efficient can you be. Well efficiency is 3pt shooting and FT's. James Harden has horrible...absolutely HORRIBLE shooting games. But he will get to the FT line 10+ times and make 80% of them, then shoot 4 for 11 on 3's and his TS% will be amazing.

This is like saying Harden and Lebron are the great playmakers because they get a lot of assists and Lebron is a better rebounder because he gets a lot of rebounds. It is their role to get a lot assists. Is Harden a better playmaker than Curry? From the stats he blows Curry out the water. Why? Because this era is where you give the ball to one person and they do everything. Whoever your best player is....give them the ball...let them do the everything and voila instant mega-stats.

If you are taught to do something and the entire society deems this is the right thing to do, that is what you are going to focus on.

Right now, in the NBA, everyone is taught to shoot 3pt shots or get to the FT line. Its efficient. But in no small way, its basically searching for stats. That is not how the game was played before. You can criticize the NBA for not seeing the "golden light" of 3pt shooting prior but that's spilled milk. That's the way it was, people are not accounting for the thinking in the past.

You are judging everything on current context...and not taking in account things were done differently before.......

[G35]

2012 was a lockout year so league wide TS% was slightly lower than normal. It was just a reduced level of play overall due to a more grueling schedule and less prep time. In 2011 it was 54.1, and in 2013 it was 53.5.

Furthermore, this year's league wide TS% is 55.6. I have no idea where you got 56.8 from.

Lastly, the entire league is more efficient because players and coaching are getting smarter and coming to the realization that 3>2. The game has changed, but that's a pro-Curry argument.

You're right I don't know how I got .568.

But I don't know how the entire league changing to a more efficient league because everyone is shooting more 3's is a pro-Curry argument. Yes, I agree Curry changed the league, he's going to go down as the greatest shooter all time.

My point is that you can't compare eras. Curry in the NBA prior to 1980 is not the same player.

I said trying to compare stats across eras is unfair to all players......

It's a pro-Curry argument because he's playing in a smarter and more sophisticated league than the one Kobe played in. GSW would absolutely steamroll any Laker team that Kobe's ever played on, with any set of rules that Kobe's ever played under.

Who cares about Curry in the NBA prior to 1980? That's totally unrelated and irrelevant to the topic.

Yes....very progressive and analytical mindset......

[kabstah]

You're right I don't know how I got .568.

But I don't know how the entire league changing to a more efficient league because everyone is shooting more 3's is a pro-Curry argument. Yes, I agree Curry changed the league, he's going to go down as the greatest shooter all time.

My point is that you can't compare eras. Curry in the NBA prior to 1980 is not the same player.

I said trying to compare stats across eras is unfair to all players......

It's a pro-Curry argument because he's playing in a smarter and more sophisticated league than the one Kobe played in. GSW would absolutely steamroll any Laker team that Kobe's ever played on, with any set of rules that Kobe's ever played under.

Who cares about Curry in the NBA prior to 1980? That's totally unrelated and irrelevant to the topic.

Yes....very progressive and analytical mindset......

It's not analytical or progressive at all. It's just common sense. Basketball is more advanced now than it was ten years ago, and basketball ten years in the future will be more advanced than it is now.

[G35]

It's a pro-Curry argument because he's playing in a smarter and more sophisticated league than the one Kobe played in. GSW would absolutely steamroll any Laker team that Kobe's ever played on, with any set of rules that Kobe's ever played under.

Who cares about Curry in the NBA prior to 1980? That's totally unrelated and irrelevant to the topic.

Yes....very progressive and analytical mindset......

It's not analytical or progressive at all. It's just common sense. Basketball is more advanced now than it was ten years ago, and basketball ten years in the future will be more advanced than it is now.

That would be your opinion.

My point is comparing players from different eras is apples to oranges. Just because something is different does not necessarily equate to better.

Just because we have better methods of communicating does not mean people communicate better now...just more efficiently......

[kabstah]

Yes....very progressive and analytical mindset......

It's not analytical or progressive at all. It's just common sense. Basketball is more advanced now than it was ten years ago, and basketball ten years in the future will be more advanced than it is now.

That would be your opinion.

My point is comparing players from different eras is apples to oranges. Just because something is different does not necessarily equate to better.

Just because we have better methods of communicating does not mean people communicate better now...just more efficiently......

So your opinion is that it's impossible and futile to compare players that aren't contemporaries of each other?

[dhsilv2]

Once again...I originally said the game is different than it was when Kobe was playing. Why everyone chooses to ignore that is on them.

But if you think that Kobe couldn't come down and take 8-10 3PA's and hit 38% and it wouldn't change his TS% over his career and you are being bias.

Now I know people are going to say, look at his career 3pt shooting, no way Kobe can shoot the 3pt shot better. Kobe practice mid range shots, he practiced playing out the post.

Don't tell me that Kobe couldn't practice and shoot at least as good as James Harden, Lebron, or Durant.

Eras dictate how players play. This is the era of how efficient can you be. Well efficiency is 3pt shooting and FT's. James Harden has horrible...absolutely HORRIBLE shooting games. But he will get to the FT line 10+ times and make 80% of them, then shoot 4 for 11 on 3's and his TS% will be amazing.

This is like saying Harden and Lebron are the great playmakers because they get a lot of assists and Lebron is a better rebounder because he gets a lot of rebounds. It is their role to get a lot assists. Is Harden a better playmaker than Curry? From the stats he blows Curry out the water. Why? Because this era is where you give the ball to one person and they do everything. Whoever your best player is....give them the ball...let them do the everything and voila instant mega-stats.

If you are taught to do something and the entire society deems this is the right thing to do, that is what you are going to focus on.

Right now, in the NBA, everyone is taught to shoot 3pt shots or get to the FT line. Its efficient. But in no small way, its basically searching for stats. That is not how the game was played before. You can criticize the NBA for not seeing the "golden light" of 3pt shooting prior but that's spilled milk. That's the way it was, people are not accounting for the thinking in the past.

You are judging everything on current context...and not taking in account things were done differently before.......

Kobe took 5,546 3 pointers in his career. That's no small sample nor is it remotely reasonable to think Kobe didn't practice the heck out of shooting 3's. He for his career shot 33% on them. I'm sure if he focused on them more they could be a bigger part of his game, but no way is the guy taking 10 a game at 38%.

[ccameron]

I don't understand why people are having such a tough time comprehending that Curry might actually be just as good as Kobe. It's really not that surprising.

I don't see anyone not understanding that Curry might be as good as Kobe. I see people reacting to those that are saying he is "multiple levels" better than Curry.

[G35]

Once again...I originally said the game is different than it was when Kobe was playing. Why everyone chooses to ignore that is on them.

But if you think that Kobe couldn't come down and take 8-10 3PA's and hit 38% and it wouldn't change his TS% over his career and you are being bias.

Now I know people are going to say, look at his career 3pt shooting, no way Kobe can shoot the 3pt shot better. Kobe practice mid range shots, he practiced playing out the post.

Don't tell me that Kobe couldn't practice and shoot at least as good as James Harden, Lebron, or Durant.

Eras dictate how players play. This is the era of how efficient can you be. Well efficiency is 3pt shooting and FT's. James Harden has horrible...absolutely HORRIBLE shooting games. But he will get to the FT line 10+ times and make 80% of them, then shoot 4 for 11 on 3's and his TS% will be amazing.

This is like saying Harden and Lebron are the great playmakers because they get a lot of assists and Lebron is a better rebounder because he gets a lot of rebounds. It is their role to get a lot assists. Is Harden a better playmaker than Curry? From the stats he blows Curry out the water. Why? Because this era is where you give the ball to one person and they do everything. Whoever your best player is....give them the ball...let them do the everything and voila instant mega-stats.

If you are taught to do something and the entire society deems this is the right thing to do, that is what you are going to focus on.

Right now, in the NBA, everyone is taught to shoot 3pt shots or get to the FT line. Its efficient. But in no small way, its basically searching for stats. That is not how the game was played before. You can criticize the NBA for not seeing the "golden light" of 3pt shooting prior but that's spilled milk. That's the way it was, people are not accounting for the thinking in the past.

You are judging everything on current context...and not taking in account things were done differently before.......

Kobe took 5,546 3 pointers in his career. That's no small sample nor is it remotely reasonable to think Kobe didn't practice the heck out of shooting 3's. He for his career shot 33% on them. I'm sure if he focused on them more they could be a bigger part of his game, but no way is the guy taking 10 a game at 38%.

This is what Kobe did over his career:

2PT FGA - 15.3
3PT FGA - 4.1

What do the numbers suggest he practiced more.......

[dhsilv2]

Once again...I originally said the game is different than it was when Kobe was playing. Why everyone chooses to ignore that is on them.

But if you think that Kobe couldn't come down and take 8-10 3PA's and hit 38% and it wouldn't change his TS% over his career and you are being bias.

Now I know people are going to say, look at his career 3pt shooting, no way Kobe can shoot the 3pt shot better. Kobe practice mid range shots, he practiced playing out the post.

Don't tell me that Kobe couldn't practice and shoot at least as good as James Harden, Lebron, or Durant.

Eras dictate how players play. This is the era of how efficient can you be. Well efficiency is 3pt shooting and FT's. James Harden has horrible...absolutely HORRIBLE shooting games. But he will get to the FT line 10+ times and make 80% of them, then shoot 4 for 11 on 3's and his TS% will be amazing.

This is like saying Harden and Lebron are the great playmakers because they get a lot of assists and Lebron is a better rebounder because he gets a lot of rebounds. It is their role to get a lot assists. Is Harden a better playmaker than Curry? From the stats he blows Curry out the water. Why? Because this era is where you give the ball to one person and they do everything. Whoever your best player is....give them the ball...let them do the everything and voila instant mega-stats.

If you are taught to do something and the entire society deems this is the right thing to do, that is what you are going to focus on.

Right now, in the NBA, everyone is taught to shoot 3pt shots or get to the FT line. Its efficient. But in no small way, its basically searching for stats. That is not how the game was played before. You can criticize the NBA for not seeing the "golden light" of 3pt shooting prior but that's spilled milk. That's the way it was, people are not accounting for the thinking in the past.

You are judging everything on current context...and not taking in account things were done differently before.......

Kobe took 5,546 3 pointers in his career. That's no small sample nor is it remotely reasonable to think Kobe didn't practice the heck out of shooting 3's. He for his career shot 33% on them. I'm sure if he focused on them more they could be a bigger part of his game, but no way is the guy taking 10 a game at 38%.

This is what Kobe did over his career:

2PT FGA - 15.3
3PT FGA - 4.1

What do the numbers suggest he practiced more.......

I'd hope a shot he's taking 20-30% of the time he's worked on an awful lot. ~21% of his shots were 0-3 feet from the basket.

12% were 3-10
17% were 10-16
28% were 16-<3

So ~49% of his shots were at least 16 feet back. Looks to me like he practiced shooting from a decent distance a LOT.

[G35]

Kobe took 5,546 3 pointers in his career. That's no small sample nor is it remotely reasonable to think Kobe didn't practice the heck out of shooting 3's. He for his career shot 33% on them. I'm sure if he focused on them more they could be a bigger part of his game, but no way is the guy taking 10 a game at 38%.

This is what Kobe did over his career:

2PT FGA - 15.3
3PT FGA - 4.1

What do the numbers suggest he practiced more.......

I'd hope a shot he's taking 20-30% of the time he's worked on an awful lot. ~21% of his shots were 0-3 feet from the basket.

12% were 3-10
17% were 10-16
28% were 16-<3

So ~49% of his shots were at least 16 feet back. Looks to me like he practiced shooting from a decent distance a LOT.

That is relative to a shot he's taking 70-80% of the time. Its not one way.

% of shots that were 2PA
Kobe - .784
Curry - .542

Kobe took many of those "bad" shots that were from the 16ft out to the 3pt line...that no-man's land. Kobe took 28% of his shots from that range and earlier in his career it was regularly in the 30% range.

Steph is at less than 20% from that range but the first few years of his career he was shooting 28-30% of his shots there. In the last few years....10-12% of his shots come from this range.

Its clearly a different philosophy in how the game was played. I don't know why so many people are butt hurt about that fact that......

[1993Playoffs]

When people try to argue LeBron is a better 3pt shooter than Kobe guys always say "Kobe took alot of difficult off balance 3s that LeBron can't make".........now that Kobe is compared to curry im seeing guys say " the game is so different now, Kobe couldn't work his 3s"

Why is the argument completely different now guys?? Lol

[mademan]

This is what Kobe did over his career:

2PT FGA - 15.3
3PT FGA - 4.1

What do the numbers suggest he practiced more.......

I'd hope a shot he's taking 20-30% of the time he's worked on an awful lot. ~21% of his shots were 0-3 feet from the basket.

12% were 3-10
17% were 10-16
28% were 16-<3

So ~49% of his shots were at least 16 feet back. Looks to me like he practiced shooting from a decent distance a LOT.

That is relative to a shot he's taking 70-80% of the time. Its not one way.

% of shots that were 2PA
Kobe - .784
Curry - .542

Kobe took many of those "bad" shots that were from the 16ft out to the 3pt line...that no-man's land. Kobe took 28% of his shots from that range and earlier in his career it was regularly in the 30% range.

Steph is at less than 20% from that range but the first few years of his career he was shooting 28-30% of his shots there. In the last few years....10-12% of his shots come from this range.

Its clearly a different philosophy in how the game was played. I don't know why so many people are butt hurt about that fact that......

You can blame philosophy, but people have criticized Kobe for his shot selection for more than a decade. If he didn't change it then, why would he change it now?