The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19

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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#61 » by Ascrilas » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:00 am

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Heej wrote:Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.



Yeah I'm hopeful that some of this is still him not being right physically plus some rust, but he looks totally cooked.

Luka looking this good makes that easier to take. Since Dirk left his prime we haven't been able to see the future in Dallas. It's been dark and dire. And now there is new hope.


I don't worry about Dirk too much. He's been trash after an injury every time since 2012 which makes sense given his age. But he has also played himself into shape back again every time. Sure, Father Time is undefeated, but Dirk was a good player last year by eye test and stats, so I don't believe he will fall off too hard. Something like 10/4 in 25 mpg on good efficiency once he's at 100%, I could see him doing that. Defense will be a problem though, even more than in the past.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#62 » by Dr Spaceman » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:23 am

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Heej wrote:Also, it's really sad to see how non-existent Dirk is out there on the floor. He looks like the shell of a shell of himself.



Yeah I'm hopeful that some of this is still him not being right physically plus some rust, but he looks totally cooked.

Luka looking this good makes that easier to take. Since Dirk left his prime we haven't been able to see the future in Dallas. It's been dark and dire. And now there is new hope.


I don't worry about Dirk too much. He's been trash after an injury every time since 2012 which makes sense given his age. But he has also played himself into shape back again every time. Sure, Father Time is undefeated, but Dirk was a good player last year by eye test and stats, so I don't believe he will fall off too hard. Something like 10/4 in 25 mpg on good efficiency once he's at 100%, I could see him doing that. Defense will be a problem though, even more than in the past.


Dirk was excellent in both 14 and 15. Easily could have been the second best player on a contender. In 2014 they almost upset the Spurs (although Dirk wasn’t good in that series) and in 2015 they had the #1 offense until Rondo happened.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#65 » by gh123 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:04 am

Lol there's no way Dirk play more than 18 mpg.
The schedule is still rough to end the year, so I don't think Luka will get his eFG% up. But it was a pretty great December for him regardless.
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Post#66 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:38 pm

I love Luka but the Mavs fans chanting MVP last night....smh
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Post#67 » by Heej » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:46 pm

Some of his cross-court passes were insane though. That first 3 of the game where he picks it up a couple feet behind the right wing when he gets blitzed and hammers it to Barnes all the way in the left corner on the numbers. **** Like that is absolutely insane for even LeBron, let alone some Euro rookie that runs all derpy like when he jogs back on defense.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#68 » by Johnny Firpo » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:25 am

Tough loss but another special game from Luka. That offensive arsenal is starting to look limitless.
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Post#69 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:26 am

Luka is so fun. Still a rookie making rookie mistakes like that killer turnover late tonight, but my goodness is he fun.
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Post#70 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:31 am

I don't see how its possible for an nba team to run such a horrible play out of a time out with 4 second left in a game. Luka was out near half court when he's the guy you want getting the ball.
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Post#71 » by Archx » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:34 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:I don't see how its possible for an nba team to run such a horrible play out of a time out with 4 second left in a game. Luka was out near half court when he's the guy you want getting the ball.


RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.
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Post#72 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:36 am

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Cavsfansince84 wrote:I don't see how its possible for an nba team to run such a horrible play out of a time out with 4 second left in a game. Luka was out near half court when he's the guy you want getting the ball.


RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.


I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#73 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:48 am

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Cavsfansince84 wrote:I don't see how its possible for an nba team to run such a horrible play out of a time out with 4 second left in a game. Luka was out near half court when he's the guy you want getting the ball.


RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.


I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.


Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#74 » by Archx » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:54 am

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Cavsfansince84 wrote:
Archx wrote:
RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.


I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.


Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


Except the replay showed NO player kicked the ball away from his dribble. And DAJ taking the rebound away from Luka and then losing the ball 1 play earlier, is also something to be considered.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#75 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:54 am

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Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


I'm just saying, watching that play develop out of the to it looked like confused hot garbage. Even good coaches can draw up **** plays sometimes and obviously its up to the players to execute them.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#76 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:00 am

eh maybe. I was fine with it in real time. All that mattered this season was can Luka be the franchise player the team has lacked since Dirk's prime? That's been answered with an emphatic yes. Over the next 2 summers Dallas can start shaping a roster around him. Not going to sweat a loss like this where AD was unstoppable.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#77 » by GSP » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:22 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:
Archx wrote:
RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.


I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.


Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


Carlisle isnt on that level out of timeouts and def nowhere near Brad, Pop or Doc. He isn't so good at them that he's far ahead coaches like Snyder, Spo,Bud, Gentry, Clifford etc
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#78 » by TheBonzaiEffect » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:10 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:
Archx wrote:
RC wanted OT i think. But DSJ was too late with the layup and he missed it anyway. I was also surprised they didn't just go for the win.


I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.


Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


Just stop. It was a blatant kicked ball and atrocious no call. That's not a turnover.

And why do you need to remove J'Rue? He's an great defender, but Luka roasted him all game. I'd much rather have a red hot, insanely clutch Luka taking a stepback to win it than a boneheaded, aimless play by DSJ.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#79 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:45 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:
I mean at the very least run some kind of screens to get someone a clean shot(whether its a 2 or 3). DSJ just getting it and running around for 4 seconds without getting a shot off is college level ****.


Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


Just stop. It was a blatant kicked ball and atrocious no call. That's not a turnover.

And why do you need to remove J'Rue? He's an great defender, but Luka roasted him all game. I'd much rather have a red hot, insanely clutch Luka taking a stepback to win it than a boneheaded, aimless play by DSJ.


You are missing my point. He should never have been putting the ball on the floor 1 on 3 in that situation. What was he going to gain by advancing the ball there? Nothing. He should hold the ball, let the defense clear and then advance. Then there is no kick ball.

Rookie mistake.

I love Luka, but everything that goes well isn't all him and everything that goes bad isn't always everyone else. I feel like that's getting lost in Lukamania.
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Re: The Luka Doncic Thread - 2018-19 

Post#80 » by TheBonzaiEffect » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:54 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
TheBonzaiEffect wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Rick Carlisle is the best or 2nd best coach at plays out of time outs. Stevens the other contender. So I'd trust the plan. And he got a wide open shot, his execution was poor in being late at the release but the call was fine.

Use Luka as a decoy and get Jrue totally out of the action was fine. Showcasing DSJ to help with the eventual trade was good.

Sometimes the other team deserves to win. AD was absurd. Dallas couldn't handle Randle's physicality. And heck Luka's late turnover was a boneheaded rookie mistake that could and should have been avoided.


Just stop. It was a blatant kicked ball and atrocious no call. That's not a turnover.

And why do you need to remove J'Rue? He's an great defender, but Luka roasted him all game. I'd much rather have a red hot, insanely clutch Luka taking a stepback to win it than a boneheaded, aimless play by DSJ.


You are missing my point. He should never have been putting the ball on the floor 1 on 3 in that situation. What was he going to gain by advancing the ball there? Nothing. He should hold the ball, let the defense clear and then advance. Then there is no kick ball.

Rookie mistake.

I love Luka, but everything that goes well isn't all him and everything that goes bad isn't always everyone else. I feel like that's getting lost in Lukamania.


No, you're missing the point. The point is, it was a horrendous no-call, period. It wasn't a turnover because it was a kicked ball. I'm not going to blame a guy for a ref missing a 100% wrong call.

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