The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

[therealbig3]

He looks like 2014 Curry out there. Not bad, but not right.

He has been pretty bad.

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

[Colbinii]

He looks like 2014 Curry out there. Not bad, but not right.

He has been pretty bad.

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

Missing games in the post-season is a huge deal, especially missing 6 games.I also value the post-season a lot, and him missing that many games shined a lot of light on just how versatile the Warriors as a team are, and showed that the Warriors aren't just a product of Curry.

[NaturalThunder]

It's been a pretty disappointing Finals for Curry so far.

Series averages:

30.7 MPG, 16.0 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 0.7 SPG, 5.0 TOV, 43.5% FG, 40.0% 3P, 100% FT, 59% TS

I mean he's still been solidly efficient but he's only gotten to the line four times the entire series and all four of those were tonight (one was a technical FT). So yes, 59% TS is actually good but he's doing it at just 16 PPG. The five turnovers per game is pretty ugly, too. I mean at first glance, no, his numbers don't look just painfully terrible, I guess, but if you've watched the games you know he's been pretty painfully terrible in the series thus far. I expect that to change but for now it looks pretty bad.

[picc]

You're misremembering that game. It didn't have 0 effect on the outcome, it singlehandedly brought the Warriors back, and they had a chance to win that game. I can't call an effort that gives your team a chance to win a game "statpadding".

If you think GS had a real chance to win that game, you're the one misremembering. It was the quintessential cute, too little too late flurry, following a game that would actually have been winnable if he'd shown half that fight in the first 3 quarters. But if that's enough for you to be satisfied with a superstar's performance in a finals game...great.

And he credited the "statpadding" for how he played the rest of the series, which included a huge game 5.

I think he was awful tonight no question, but you're spinning this into some sort of narrative about last year, which doesn't apply.

Is that what I'm doing? Even though the vast majority of my post was about tonight and this series specifically?

Last year doesnt matter right now. The narrative this year has been Steph coasting while his team takes care of everything for him. The unanimous MVP, to boot. Its ok when you're playing weaker, EC teams at home. On the road, he needs to show up against the big boys. And so far, he's only done that for a 5 minute stretch against OKC in the West finals.

[therealbig3]

The TOs and fouls are what suck. If you're not going to shoot well, and you're not going to be aggressive, then at least don't make mistakes and give away free points.

If he was at least taking care of the ball and staying out of foul trouble, then you could at least say he's playing efficiently, even if he's not doing much for large stretches at a time.

But it's just a bad all-around Finals so far.

[bigboi]

He looks like 2014 Curry out there. Not bad, but not right.

He has been pretty bad.

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

You're the biggest Stan I have ever seen, my lord. How in the hell is he the second best player in the playoffs when he's been the third best on his own team? And no, he was not better than Westbrook, get out of here

[cpower]

It's been a pretty disappointing Finals for Curry so far.

Series averages:

30.7 MPG, 16.0 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 0.7 SPG, 5.0 TOV, 43.5% FG, 40.0% 3P, 100% FT, 59% TS

I mean he's still been solidly efficient but he's only gotten to the line four times the entire series and all four of those were tonight (one was a technical FT). So yes, 59% TS is actually good but he's doing it at just 16 PPG. The five turnovers per game is pretty ugly, too. I mean at first glance, no, his numbers don't look just painfully terrible, I guess, but if you've watched the games you know he's been pretty painfully terrible in the series thus far. I expect that to change but for now it looks pretty bad.

He took a back seat to Klay in every game since he came back from the injury. If you look at his quarter numbers, his 1st (6.6) and 2nd (5.3) quarter scoring avg is a lot less than his 3rd (10) and 4th (7) ........ he always had the slow start which is pretty clear what is going on there.

[Clyde Frazier]

He has been pretty bad.

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

Missing games in the post-season is a huge deal, especially missing 6 games.I also value the post-season a lot, and him missing that many games shined a lot of light on just how versatile the Warriors as a team are, and showed that the Warriors aren't just a product of Curry.

Bottom line: they aren't in the finals if not for his performance in games 6/7 of the conf finals. As he plays more playoff games, those 6 games missed become less significant against him. And really, the warriors first and second round series were against weak competition. It's not that surprising that the team with the most RS wins in league history were able to keep its head above water during that period. Anyone who legit thought they were just are product of curry is crazy.

[2klegend]

He is just not GOAT level performers that the Curry fanboy is trying to hype up and it shown. Like I always said, the big boy performs best at the biggest table.

[MisterHibachi]

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[therealbig3]

You're misremembering that game. It didn't have 0 effect on the outcome, it singlehandedly brought the Warriors back, and they had a chance to win that game. I can't call an effort that gives your team a chance to win a game "statpadding".

If you think GS had a real chance to win that game, you're the one misremembering. It was the quintessential cute, too little too late flurry, following a game that would actually have been winnable if he'd shown half that fight in the first 3 quarters. But if that's enough for you to be satisfied with a superstar's performance in a finals game...great.

And he credited the "statpadding" for how he played the rest of the series, which included a huge game 5.

I think he was awful tonight no question, but you're spinning this into some sort of narrative about last year, which doesn't apply.

Is that what I'm doing? Even though the vast majority of my post was about tonight and this series specifically?

Last year doesnt matter right now. The narrative this year has been Steph coasting while his team takes care of everything for him. The unanimous MVP, to boot. Its ok when you're playing weaker, EC teams at home. On the road, he needs to show up against the big boys. And so far, he's only done that for a 5 minute stretch against OKC in the West finals.

I didn't say anything about his overall game 3 last year. I said it wasn't statpadding.

The Warriors were within 3 with the ball, with 5 minutes to go.

With 2:45 to go, Curry hit a 3 to bring them within 1 point.

With 1:24 to go, Curry hit a 3 to bring them within 5 points.

With :28 to go, Curry hit a 3 to bring them within 4 points.

With :19 to go, Curry hit a 3 to bring them within 3 points.

Those are clearly not unwinnable situations. I'm not misremembering anything.


Meh, they dispatched a bad Houston team without him, but needed him against a mediocre Portland team in the 2nd round. He was their best player against OKC and led them past them.

He's had a bad Finals, nobody's saying otherwise. Some of you are taking it way too far and applying it to his entire playoffs, which has more to do with missed time than actual poor performance.

[cpower]

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Curry has never put up less than 18 FGA before and he had less than 15 in all three. He choked himself into steve nash the distributor and it failed miserably. someone needs to give him a wake up call .

[therealbig3]

He has been pretty bad.

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

You're the biggest Stan I have ever seen, my lord. How in the hell is he the second best player in the playoffs when he's been the third best on his own team? And no, he was not better than Westbrook, get out of here

He absolutely outplayed Westbrook in the conference finals.

And I guess reading isn't your thing, I didn't say he's the 2nd best player in the playoffs. I was only talking about the games he actually played, but then clearly said that the missed games do matter.

I don't think I'm a stan, but I think some of you get WAY too carried away with small sample sizes and narratives. Meh. Whatever.

[RSCD3_]

If curry heats up for 2 or 3 more games and the warriors win, his stats should be good enough to justify him getting the finals MVP even though he mighr arguably play worse than last year.

[bigboi]

If you look at just the games he's played, only LeBron has been better in these playoffs imo.

For the Finals, he's been bad. For the playoffs as a whole, looking past the missed games, he's been pretty good. Better than Durant, Westbrook, Green, etc.

But the missed games do matter, and that's going to affect his POY ranking a lot for me.

You're the biggest Stan I have ever seen, my lord. How in the hell is he the second best player in the playoffs when he's been the third best on his own team? And no, he was not better than Westbrook, get out of here

He absolutely outplayed Westbrook in the conference finals.

And I guess reading isn't your thing, I didn't say he's the 2nd best player in the playoffs. I was only talking about the games he actually played, but then clearly said that the missed games do matter.

I don't think I'm a stan, but I think some of you get WAY too carried away with small sample sizes and narratives. Meh. Whatever.

Curry didn't outplay him, he played better for like 2 maybe 3 games in the series. Westbrook played better in more games so how exactly did Curry play better? Also you're always the first one to cape for Curry every single time. You're a Stan man, no one can say anything negative about Curry, there's always an excuse. First, it was the "injuries", what's the excuse now? And you really tried saying he's playing efficient. Like are you serious right now, this is a moment when TS is used wrong. FT% completely inflate his TS, dude isn't playing efficient at all. Taking 9 3 pointers when it isn't falling and he would've probably taken even more if he didn't sit down early isn't efficient basketball

[therealbig3]

You're the biggest Stan I have ever seen, my lord. How in the hell is he the second best player in the playoffs when he's been the third best on his own team? And no, he was not better than Westbrook, get out of here

He absolutely outplayed Westbrook in the conference finals.

And I guess reading isn't your thing, I didn't say he's the 2nd best player in the playoffs. I was only talking about the games he actually played, but then clearly said that the missed games do matter.

I don't think I'm a stan, but I think some of you get WAY too carried away with small sample sizes and narratives. Meh. Whatever.

Curry didn't outplay him, he played better for like 2 maybe 3 games in the series. Westbrook played better in more games so how exactly did Curry play better? Also you're always the first one to cape for Curry every single time. You're a Stan man, no one can say anything negative about Curry, there's always an excuse. First, it was the "injuries", what's the excuse now? And you really tried saying he's playing efficient. Like are you serious right now, this is a moment when TS is used wrong. FT% completely inflate his TS, dude isn't playing efficient at all. Taking 9 3 pointers when it isn't falling and he would've probably taken even more if he didn't sit down early isn't efficient basketball

I said he was playing efficient? Pretty sure I said the exact opposite, and pointed to his TOs and fouls as to why he's not.

And I never said it was his injuries, I said I think he's out of shape, but I've also always said that it doesn't change anything, he should be judged for how he plays when he's out there regardless.

Like, I'm seriously starting to wonder about your reading comprehension. People can criticize Curry, I don't care, just come with some facts instead of narratives and cherry-picking.

And Curry outplayed Westbrook in games 2, 5, 6, and 7. That's 4/7 games, so Curry outplayed him the majority of the time.

[Keller61]

If Curry continues to play this bad (forget the poor shooting, look at all the really bad turnovers), then people are going to have a nightmare time evaluating his 2015-16 season. I can't remember last time someone looked so dominant in the regular season and so poor in the playoffs. People like myself who really value these playoff games over the regular season games will look back very poorly on his season whereas people who do not put as much weight on these playoff games will see it as an anomaly and still contend that he had one of the greatest seasons of all time.

I remember LeBron looking really bad in the first 3 games of the 2013 finals. He turned it around though, and people don't seem to hold that against him too much when evaluating his 2012-13 season. Let's see how the rest of this series goes.

[Shock Defeat]

Curry's ultra efficiency is unquestionably the product of the Warriors being super talented around him. Put him on a team less talented and he becomes a normal superstar and not a GOAT peak superstar.

[NinjaSheppard]

Steph was a special kind of terrible out there tonight. Really felt like he forgot how to play basketball at times.

[mtron929]

His stats are not good but his play is even worse than what his stats indicate. On many occasions he looks more like Jeremy Lin as opposed to Stephen Curry.