Retro Player of the Year Project

Post #661 » by **semi-sentient** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:35 pm

I'll put all 3. Other posters have multiple teams that they are fans of.

drza · Post #662 » by **drza** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:59 pm

Doc, I sent you a PM today, did you get it?

JordansBulls · Post #663 » by **JordansBulls** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:55 pm

Are we going to go to year 1947 or are we stopping like in 50's?

Also are we still planning on doing the ABA?

Post #664 » by **Doctor MJ** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:35 am

drza wrote:Doc, I sent you a PM today, did you get it?

Got it.

Post #665 » by **Doctor MJ** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:36 am

JordansBulls wrote:Are we going to go to year 1947 or are we stopping like in 50's?

Also are we still planning on doing the ABA?

If the project doesn't lose steam, we'll go back to '47.

ABA & NBA will be done together. We'll be voting for the top 5 players who played in either the NBA or ABA that year.

Post #666 » by **Doctor MJ** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:41 am

So guys, re: '09-10 POY. I'm thinking of doing it June 28th to July 5th, Monday to Monday. This seems like a good plan because it will give some time to ruminate, won't go too far into summer, and won't overlap over a break in voting.

If there's enough push back against using the holiday weekend, then I'll probably make that weekend another break from all voting, and start the '09-10 POY on the 5th.

Let me know your thoughts.

bastillon · Post #667 » by **bastillon** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:17 am

the biggest loser today was Bill Russell. winner all his life, but got raped today. he would celebrate 18th title in Staples Center while giving finals MVP to his favorite NBA player. instead, he watched the refs take over the 4th quarter and he had to give his own award to a player who has just shot 6-24 and had 1 ast with 4 turnovers. and now Kobe is showing off to Shaq, another player Bill Russell likes. he demands a f*ckin apology.

shawngoat23 · Post #668 » by **shawngoat23** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:19 am

bastillon wrote:the biggest loser today was Bill Russell. winner all his life, but got raped today. he would celebrate 18th title in Staples Center while giving finals MVP to his favorite NBA player. instead, he watched the refs take over the 4th quarter and he had to give his own award to a player who has just shot 6-24 and had 1 ast with 4 turnovers. and now Kobe is showing off to Shaq, another player Bill Russell likes. he demands a f*ckin apology.

Wrong thread?

Silver Bullet · Post #669 » by **Silver Bullet** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:19 am

bastillon wrote:the biggest loser today was Bill Russell. winner all his life, but got raped today. he would celebrate 18th title in Staples Center while giving finals MVP to his favorite NBA player. instead, he watched the refs take over the 4th quarter and he had to give his own award to a player who has just shot 6-24 and had 1 ast with 4 turnovers. and now Kobe is showing off to Shaq, another player Bill Russell likes. he demands a f*ckin apology.

It's sad that your understanding of the game does not extend beyond shooting the ball.

I thought Kobe had his best game of the playoffs tonight.

bastillon · Post #670 » by **bastillon** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:22 am

...says someone whose favorite player is a scorer. thank you.

Silver Bullet · Post #671 » by **Silver Bullet** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:26 am

bastillon wrote:...says someone whose favorite player is a scorer. thank you.

My favorite player is Nash, FYI.

bastillon · Post #672 » by **bastillon** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:38 am

since when, lol ?
overall Kobe had a terrible game. his defense was poor, he made a lot of mistakes and didn't guard Rondo very well, especially in transition in the first half. his defense on Ray Allen was actually even worse. his passing was basically non existent, because he just jacked up shots and when he did make a pass, it was a turnover... and then obviously he lost a lot of possessions on those bricks. I don't how this is anything short from a horrible game.

Silver Bullet · Post #673 » by **Silver Bullet** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:52 am

bastillon wrote:since when, lol ?
overall Kobe had a terrible game. his defense was poor, he made a lot of mistakes and didn't guard Rondo very well, especially in transition in the first half. his defense on Ray Allen was actually even worse. his passing was basically non existent, because he just jacked up shots and when he did make a pass, it was a turnover... and then obviously he lost a lot of possessions on those bricks. I don't how this is anything short from a horrible game.

It's always been Nash.

As for Kobe - his defense was not poor, his job is not to defend Rondo, his job is to disrupt the passing lanes, while keeping an eye on Rondo.

As for Allen, I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Kobe switching onto Allen, IMO, was the turning point of the game.

Post #674 » by **Doctor MJ** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:43 am

Silver Bullet wrote:I thought Kobe had his best game of the playoffs tonight.

Whoa

Jimmy76 · Post #675 » by **Jimmy76** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:47 am

this year is going to be tough to rank

Lebron came up short and Kobe played sub-par most of the season and missed some games

usually when I do these rankings in my head theres a bunch of guys I wanna put at 1 this year theres nobody :lol:

mysticbb · Post #676 » by **mysticbb** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:52 am

The Top5 is pretty much set with James, Wade, Bryant, Howard/Durant (in that order). Not quite sure who should be ahead of one of those All-NBA 1st players. You can make a case for Nowitzki over Durant, if the playoff performance is valued much higher, but the Mavericks lost in the 1st round too. But who else had a good enough year?

Jimmy76 · Post #677 » by **Jimmy76** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:55 am

mysticbb wrote:The Top5 is pretty much set with James, Wade, Bryant, Howard/Durant (in that order). Not quite sure who should be ahead of one of those All-NBA 1st players. You can make a case for Nowitzki over Durant, if the playoff performance is valued much higher, but the Mavericks lost in the 1st round too. But who else had a good enough year?

id put Dirk or Nash over Durant both played better in the playoffs

mysticbb · Post #678 » by **mysticbb** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:57 am

Jimmy76 wrote:id put Dirk or Nash over Durant both played better in the playoffs

You are right about Nash, I have to admit I forgot him.

Jimmy76 · Post #679 » by **Jimmy76** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:00 am

for me it would be
1. Kobe
2. Lebron-I'd put Lebron first but he really looked like he gave up the last couple games despite the rebounding
3/4. Howard/Nash
5. Dirk

mysticbb wrote:
Jimmy76 wrote:id put Dirk or Nash over Durant both played better in the playoffs

You are right about Nash, I have to admit I forgot him.

its my job to remind you as the resident Nash homer

mysticbb · Post #680 » by **mysticbb** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:07 am

Jimmy76 wrote:for me it would be
1. Kobe
2. Lebron-I'd put Lebron first but he really looked like he gave up the last couple games despite the rebounding
3/4. Howard/Nash
5. Dirk

I think that "gave up" argument is bs. Seriously, he played his ass off all season long. There were also strong rumors about his elbow, maybe that was more serious than everyone thought. Afterall we have to take all games into account and James was by far the best in the regular season and first round of the playoffs. Bryant got somewhat bailed out in the 1st round against the Thunder, while picking it up in the next two rounds. His play against the Celtics was imho worse than James', thus I don't see the point of putting Bryant ahead of James.

Btw, where is Wade on your list?