PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project - Discussion Thread

[Quotatious]

Did I just read you're a Blazers fan? Shame on you.

Sort of. I've been really impressed by what they're doing so far this season, liked Lillard since he came into the league, and before that Roy was one of my favorite players, always had a soft spot for LMA (though strangely I'm usually pretty critical of him) so I've been following them for quite a few years now. I guess I'm not a true fan, but they're the team I enjoy watching the most. I've never really had a true favorite team though, a team I've been a fan of. First it was MJ/Pippen Bulls (liked Zo and Tim Bug Heat as well in the late 90s), then I've been following the Celtics pretty much since Pierce was drafted, as well as during the Big 3 era (2010 finals game 7 was a bitter pill to swallow for me), and now I'm naturally wishing the Nets well because of Pierce and KG. So yeah, I guess the Blazers and Nets are my favorite teams right now. I'm probably a pitiful bandwagoner, but I somehow couldn't ever force myself to support one franchise forever, I'm more of a fan of certain players (Duncan, for example) than teams.

In all seriousness, yea, they're a great comparison. I think you made the right pick since Billup's was damn good in 06 under Flip.

He was great in '06, but I'll probably take the 08-10 Billups, so mainly his Nugget days since when have to take 3 years.

[whitehops]

I have a question.

we are supposed to be using our players accurately/reasonably based on the years we choose right? like, you can't just play a player 40 minutes a game if they played 30 minutes a game. this was my understanding of it.

I ask this because I noticed hibachi had wade listed as his starting point guard. wade hasn't played extended minutes at point guard since he was a rookie. any source I've come across has confirmed this (82games, bball-ref, etc.).

in fact, bball-ref's position estimate has wade playing 55% of his minutes at PG as a rookie, the next highest was 26% of his minutes during the 2007 season. he's played about 14% of his minutes at PG during his career.


I don't mean to pick on hibachi specifically as I am curious about how I am going to handle my own roster.

[O_6]

IMO you can draft Kareem to play PG if that's what you want to do. But if you do that, the judges will obviously destroy your team when they rate it.

MH can use Wade as his PG, but there are clear positives and negatives with that choice. It's up to him to construct his roster and the judges to rate it.

Just like in the actual NBA, this project is mainly about finding the best possible combination of "fit" and "talent". Atleast that's how I see it.

[MisterHibachi]

You put people at whatever position you want. I could put Wade at centre, but I would be an idiot to do that. Wade can definitely handle the ball and bring it up court and that's all I would need my point guard to do. I might not even draft a point guard. Iggy can bring the ball up too. But I suspect the judges wouldn't be kind to that lol still debating with myself over this.

And also you're right, it would be foolish to play a 30mpg guy 40+ minutes. You can do it, but it would be foolish and judges will probably see that as a bad thing.

[Quotatious]

I have a question.

we are supposed to be using our players accurately/reasonably based on the years we choose right? like, you can't just play a player 40 minutes a game if they played 30 minutes a game. this was my understanding of it.

I ask this because I noticed hibachi had wade listed as his starting point guard. wade hasn't played extended minutes at point guard since he was a rookie. any source I've come across has confirmed this (82games, bball-ref, etc.).

in fact, bball-ref's position estimate has wade playing 55% of his minutes at PG as a rookie, the next highest was 26% of his minutes during the 2007 season. he's played about 14% of his minutes at PG during his career.

I think that it's totally up to you how do you manage positions, playing time etc. Judges will decide if your estimation if good or not. That's obvious because otherwise, we'd have to take starters who play approximately 35 MPG and role players for 10-13 MPG, and obviously the gap between the stars and role players (to put it bluntly - just scrubs, who played 10 MPG in a regular NBA game) would be so huge that only your starters would matter. It would totally ruin the fun of this exercise.

[Bruh Man]

I know this has been discussed to great detail lol but Just want to clarify, 62 games is the minimum and we can use the current season as one of the 3 as long as they didn't miss more than 25% of games, correct?

[Notanoob]

Yes.

[MisterHibachi]

Yeah, 75% of games EACH of the 3 seasons.

[whitehops]

I have a question.

we are supposed to be using our players accurately/reasonably based on the years we choose right? like, you can't just play a player 40 minutes a game if they played 30 minutes a game. this was my understanding of it.

I ask this because I noticed hibachi had wade listed as his starting point guard. wade hasn't played extended minutes at point guard since he was a rookie. any source I've come across has confirmed this (82games, bball-ref, etc.).

in fact, bball-ref's position estimate has wade playing 55% of his minutes at PG as a rookie, the next highest was 26% of his minutes during the 2007 season. he's played about 14% of his minutes at PG during his career.

I think that it's totally up to you how do you manage positions, playing time etc. Judges will decide if your estimation if good or not. That's obvious because otherwise, we'd have to take starters who play approximately 35 MPG and role players for 10-13 MPG, and obviously the gap between the stars and role players (to put it bluntly - just scrubs, who played 10 MPG in a regular NBA game) would be so huge that only your starters would matter. It would totally ruin the fun of this exercise.

I thought it was more just a matter of limitations, in that we were to assume that the players couldn't do more than they demonstrated they could do in the seasons we chose. obviously a player can play less minutes or take less shots because that comes down to strategy. to be honest that's why I've been taking unselfish players, imo there isn't much sense in having a 30 PPG guy if he's only going to get 12 shots a game (or take their 18-20 shots a game and 'waste' the talent of the players around them).

[MisterHibachi]

I have a question.

we are supposed to be using our players accurately/reasonably based on the years we choose right? like, you can't just play a player 40 minutes a game if they played 30 minutes a game. this was my understanding of it.

I ask this because I noticed hibachi had wade listed as his starting point guard. wade hasn't played extended minutes at point guard since he was a rookie. any source I've come across has confirmed this (82games, bball-ref, etc.).

in fact, bball-ref's position estimate has wade playing 55% of his minutes at PG as a rookie, the next highest was 26% of his minutes during the 2007 season. he's played about 14% of his minutes at PG during his career.

I think that it's totally up to you how do you manage positions, playing time etc. Judges will decide if your estimation if good or not. That's obvious because otherwise, we'd have to take starters who play approximately 35 MPG and role players for 10-13 MPG, and obviously the gap between the stars and role players (to put it bluntly - just scrubs, who played 10 MPG in a regular NBA game) would be so huge that only your starters would matter. It would totally ruin the fun of this exercise.

I thought it was more just a matter of limitations, in that we were to assume that the players couldn't do more than they demonstrated they could do in the seasons we chose. obviously a player can play less minutes or take less shots because that comes down to strategy. to be honest that's why I've been taking unselfish players, imo there isn't much sense in having a 30 PPG guy if he's only going to get 12 shots a game (or take their 18-20 shots a game and 'waste' the talent of the players around them).

Well to use Wade as an example, I think he can handle full time/sharing-with-Iggy duties at point guard; he didn't do much of it in his actual peak seasons as you pointed out, but I think he can do it if its asked of him. The risk is whether the judges agree with me. I'm probably gonna take that risk. I could take the risk of putting Wade at centre but i'm not gonna do that for obvious reasons.

[Quotatious]

I thought it was more just a matter of limitations, in that we were to assume that the players couldn't do more than they demonstrated they could do in the seasons we chose. obviously a player can play less minutes or take less shots because that comes down to strategy. to be honest that's why I've been taking unselfish players, imo there isn't much sense in having a 30 PPG guy if he's only going to get 12 shots a game (or take their 18-20 shots a game and 'waste' the talent of the players around them).

Oh yes, you're totally right that no one can play MORE minutes, less is obviously acceptable. With such stacked rosters though, I don't think anyone would want any player to play more than he actually did. The opposite trend seems to be the case.

As far as not taking 30 PPG scorers - I disagree. That way no one would take Jordan or Kobe even though they're among the very best players ever. I think it all depends on your vision, how you want to build a team. You can put Jordan or Kobe + defensive specialists and spot up shooters if you don't want to limit his shot attempts. This way you wouldn't have to bother about team chemistry, but the overall talent level of your team would obviously be very low.

[MisterHibachi]

KG, Pippen, Hibbert, and Kidd?! Damn, that's an incredible defensive lineup.

[MisterHibachi]

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you're up.

[Bruh Man]

KG, Pippen, Hibbert, and Kidd?! Damn, that's an incredible defensive lineup.

With all these crazy offensive teams figured I would try and build a defensive juggernaut, and they are all players i love watching. Teams are forming a clear identity now, should be interesting to see how people fill their bench.

[DHodgkins]

:)

youre up

[Quotatious]

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You're up.

[bbms]

Bruh Man got a nasty team.

[ardee]

Offensively I'd like to think the best team is either mine or john248s with ThunderDan's being pretty close as well.

Defensively I'd go with Bruh Man edging CaliBulls. Pippen, KG and Hibbert is a terrifying frontcourt.

[CaliBullsFan]

I like the Buck WIlliams pick he's a much better starter than Odom IMO.

Also I think the best team is still Lebron Mchale Yao

[whitehops]

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you're on the clock