2023-24 RealGM All-Season Awards Discussion Thread

[Doctor MJ]

Kyrie was incredible and unstoppable. Luka was able to get Gobert away from the rim with P&R enough to inhibit Minnesota's defense, which really had no answer as Towns/Reid aren't able to provide secondary rim protection. Kyrie being one of the only offensive players in the NBA who can routinely finish around Gobert when he is in the paint was just the icing on the cake for the Mavericks offense.

Then, on top of that, Luka show 43% from 3 on > 10 3PA/G.

Good insights.

It doesn't. Who is even close to Gobert?

Regard OPOY, the running is Jokic and SGA I assume? I think all of them have a good case while Jokic and Luka had some "poor" series [Jokic vs Minnesota and Luka vs Boston]. Boston is probably the best team...ever...at containing a win with the combination of different looks and switchability. Minnesota has a roster which if extremely effective at taking away the dunker's spot again Jokic, which Jokic used as his bread-and-butter for efficient offense.

Gobert seems pretty cemented in stone at this point, but I see 3 players in the same tier as Luka, with Haliburton/Brunson a not-so-distant 4th.

Re: Who would be close enough to Gobert for it to be mattered that literally every other playoff opponent handled Dallas better than Gobert's team? So, it's a thing for me. Hard for me to get my head around giving the guy a DPOY when his team gets wrecked in the playoffs because of disappointing defense.

To be clear: I'm not saying I won't vote Gobert #1. The hang-up I describe is not a gigantic part of the equation, but it's not nothing.

In terms of who else is on my mind:

Bam
Wemby
White/Holiday

Feel free to tee off arguing for Gobert over them.

Re: OPOY, yeah seems like we're in agreement. I'll probably have Luka/Jokic/Shai in some order, but Brunson & Haliburton are guys I think about too.

Can I vote? It said to quote you sorry for barging in

No need to apologize, and nothing personal, but I'd say you need to participate more in the future to be able to be voter. If you want to talk to me more about this, PM me.

Thank you for understanding,
Doc

[IlikeSHAIguys]

Good insights.



Re: Who would be close enough to Gobert for it to be mattered that literally every other playoff opponent handled Dallas better than Gobert's team? So, it's a thing for me. Hard for me to get my head around giving the guy a DPOY when his team gets wrecked in the playoffs because of disappointing defense.

To be clear: I'm not saying I won't vote Gobert #1. The hang-up I describe is not a gigantic part of the equation, but it's not nothing.

In terms of who else is on my mind:

Bam
Wemby
White/Holiday

Feel free to tee off arguing for Gobert over them.

Re: OPOY, yeah seems like we're in agreement. I'll probably have Luka/Jokic/Shai in some order, but Brunson & Haliburton are guys I think about too.

Can I vote? It said to quote you sorry for barging in

No need to apologize, and nothing personal, but I'd say you need to participate more in the future to be able to be voter. If you want to talk to me more about this, PM me.

Thank you for understanding,
Doc

I don't think I'm allowed to PM you. Not taking it personal but I feel like I did participate alot in this thread so I'm kind of suprised it wasn't enough.

[OhayoKD]

Can I vote? It said to quote you sorry for barging in

No need to apologize, and nothing personal, but I'd say you need to participate more in the future to be able to be voter. If you want to talk to me more about this, PM me.

Thank you for understanding,
Doc

I don't think I'm allowed to PM you. Not taking it personal but I feel like I did participate alot in this thread so I'm kind of suprised it wasn't enough.

FWIW, I think Shai was also one of the more active participants in a very POY-adjacent "is Luka the MVP thread":
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2371796

Not sure exactly what the threshold here is but they would not be a last minute addition.

[jalengreen]

No need to apologize, and nothing personal, but I'd say you need to participate more in the future to be able to be voter. If you want to talk to me more about this, PM me.

Thank you for understanding,
Doc

I don't think I'm allowed to PM you. Not taking it personal but I feel like I did participate alot in this thread so I'm kind of suprised it wasn't enough.

FWIW, I think Shai was also one of the more active participants in a very POY-adjacent "is Luka the MVP thread":
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2384059

Not sure exactly what the threshold here is but they would not be a last minute addition.

Did you link the wrong post or something? They have zero posts under that thread

[OhayoKD]

I don't think I'm allowed to PM you. Not taking it personal but I feel like I did participate alot in this thread so I'm kind of suprised it wasn't enough.

FWIW, I think Shai was also one of the more active participants in a very POY-adjacent "is Luka the MVP thread":
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2384059

Not sure exactly what the threshold here is but they would not be a last minute addition.

Did you link the wrong post or something? They have zero posts under that thread

Yep

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2371796

[AEnigma]

Can I vote? It said to quote you sorry for barging in

No need to apologize, and nothing personal, but I'd say you need to participate more in the future to be able to be voter. If you want to talk to me more about this, PM me.

Thank you for understanding,
Doc

I don't think I'm allowed to PM you. Not taking it personal but I feel like I did participate alot in this thread so I'm kind of suprised it wasn't enough.

I am only seeing two prior posts from you in this thread, and one was a single-line question.

[jalengreen]

Presti 2025 EOTY stock off to a good start

[AEnigma]

Good trade, although it would have been better at the deadline (no idea as to asking price at that time).

[jalengreen]

Good trade, although it would have been better at the deadline (no idea as to asking price at that time).

Read on Twitter

Though if that’s true, I don’t get how they end up with a return of Josh Giddey lol

[AEnigma]

Good trade, although it would have been better at the deadline (no idea as to asking price at that time).

Read on Twitter

Though if that’s true, I don’t get how they end up with a return of Josh Giddey lol

Other teams have mandates too; asking price is higher when you are potentially getting an extra postseason, but it drops down when teams receive less time with the player and are generally less desperate.

Terrible look for the Chicago front office, but pretty expected by now.

[Colbinii]

Good trade, although it would have been better at the deadline (no idea as to asking price at that time).

Yeah so it seems like Chicago was asking for #12 and another future 1st at the deadline. OKC wasn't willing to do that.

In hindsight Both teams should have done it.

[AEnigma]

Good trade, although it would have been better at the deadline (no idea as to asking price at that time).

Yeah so it seems like Chicago was asking for #12 and another future 1st at the deadline. OKC wasn't willing to do that.

In hindsight Both teams should have done it.

I can see Presti rationally preferring two firsts (one of them a lottery pick) to a marginally better chance at a title that season.

[MyUniBroDavis]

My only conclusion is everyone in the NBA sucks

[MyUniBroDavis]

Demar derozan got on stage to have fun trolling out a pedophile only to find one in his locker room

Okay so, UniBro, check your PM in a minute. Everyone else, let's avoid commentary like this in general.

~Doc

[Dutchball97]

Nice to see a lot of different opinions come to light in the voting. With how divisive it has been so far we might actually see this year's POY break KG's record from the 08 season for POY winner with the lowest amount of POY shares.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Unbanned just in time to vote

[Ambrose]

Nice to see a lot of different opinions come to light in the voting. With how divisive it has been so far we might actually see this year's POY break KG's record from the 08 season for POY winner with the lowest amount of POY shares.

Nice is far from what I'd call the voting this year.

[eminence]

POY 4
Jaylen Brown
- I feel weird putting a player i dont consider top 10 this high, but after an ECF mvp and a Finals MVP i thinik he has to get it by default, criteria and all of that.

Mods, re-ban this man.

[falcolombardi]

Can i vote for the awards? I am unsure what i need to do to ve qualified for voting

[AEnigma]

Can i vote for the awards? I am unsure what i need to do to ve qualified for voting

Doc said you were good. If you want to update anything, just edit what you already posted.