What versions of Karl Malone are better than 16 Draymond?

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Re: What versions of Karl Malone are better than 16 Draymond? 

Post#81 » by Joao Saraiva » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:07 am

HawaiianJazzFan wrote:To the person who compared Malone to Al Jefferson, just watch Malone pass in any game ever.

I think a lot of people think of Malone and his last few seasons and think that that is who he was... they forget how absolutely ferocious he was (think Kemp, young Amare, Blake Griffin) when he first came into the league.

I think it means I'm growing that I am abstaining from writing a 40 page essay. I'm salaried, super busy, and almost 30. I just don't have the time anymore. Can you just imagine what Curry and Malone could do together?? I mean Curry (and don't hate me jazz fans because it's true) is an upgraded better version of John Stockton. Malone is one of the best passing big men he isn't a blackhole like Al Jefferson. I mean the Curry/Malone PnR would be devastating. The Warriors are like the Jazz team but better at every position except PF. Curry = better version of Stockton, Klay = much MUCH bigger and better version of Hornacek, Bogut = a much much much better version of Ostertag, the rest of the Jazz bench together in their primes on their best days isn't as good as Iguodala. If you just through Malone out there it would be rough, but if you gave the team time to develop... they would be scary. Malone is indestructible so when Curry or Klay go down, he can legitimately carry the team.

The last thing, I think if it was emphasized more Malone could have developed a 3 point shot, he literally made himself into a good free throw shooter but Sloan wasn't a huge fan of 3's. He's a Jerry Rice/Kobe Bryant type of worker. I mean if you take the seasons when he shot more than 40 3's (it was only 3 seasons) he was a 35% three point shooter. Why is it such a stretch to say he couldn't improve (a la his alumni buddy Paul Millsap) from long distance???

In case you didn't get to see Malone especially in his early years:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VzlQLbXz7I[/youtube]


Great post and no hate on the Steph vs Stockton comparison. I don't think any Jazz fan will try to argue peak Stockton vs peak Curry. I can see some people arguing career value, but not peak.
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Re: Re: What versions of Karl Malone are better than 16 Draymond? 

Post#82 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun May 1, 2016 6:23 am

SlowPaced wrote:While the outside world underrates elite defensive impact, Realgm underrates elite offensive impact. This thread is no exception.

Rookie Malone and Lakers Malone are the only versions of Malone Draymond Green is better than. It's mind-boggling to me just how much Draymond has been overrated on these boards lately. You're doomed for lottery with him as your #1 option. And this isn't something you can just brush aside when you're comparing him to a Top 20 player of all time.

No, what I think you're going to see here are the doubts about the real value of his peak offensive impact emerging, most likely because of how it translated (not) in the playoffs. You're not going to find similar answers if the question was about Dirk, Barkley or Garnett, for instance.

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