RealGM Top 100 List 2017 -- #14

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Re: RealGM Top 100 List 2017 -- #14 

Post#81 » by JoeMalburg » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:05 pm

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wojoaderge wrote:
eminence wrote:Moses underwent a bit of a fiasco during his transition from ABA to NBA as well... Jazz/Blazers/Braves all had his rights before he wound up in Houston. He wasn't quite in prime, but he was a 21 year old all-star caliber player. I'm not sure what it says, but it's not something I think can be completely ignored either.

Stars (not the Jazz) folded. Spirits folded. Blazers couldn't afford his salary. Braves were mismanaged and probably couldn't afford his salary either.


I believe the Braves traded for him to trade him again because they knew that Portland was letting him go for too little. The Blazers traded him for a first round pick and the Braves turned around a week later and traded him for three first round picks.


And eminence is referring to the 1975 pre-merger draft , which was for all ABA players who had not been drafted in the NBA draft because of their age, as he notes, the Jazz surrendered Malone's rights to acquire an extra draft pick used as compensation for the signing of Gail Goodrich, the Jazz gave up a '77, '78 and '79 #1 pick and that allowed the Lakers to draft Magic Johnson.
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Re: RealGM Top 100 List 2017 -- #14 

Post#82 » by penbeast0 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:11 pm

wojoaderge wrote:
trex_8063 wrote:Twice by my eye (or arguably three times).
He was 31 (no longer young, but not overly long in the tooth either) and still in his prime in 1986 when Philly traded him away (along with a young Terry Catledge and TWO 1st round picks) for Cliff Robinson and Jeff Ruland----that almost seems like they're giving him away. That's the second time in his prime.

Again, he already had 12 years of mileage on him in an era when players' careers simply weren't expected to last as long as they do today. Jeff Ruland and Cliff Robinson were pretty darn good players, Ruland especially


Ruland was also coming off back surgery that turned out to be pretty much career ending. I always thought that deal was a bit of a swindle by Washington as even Catledge looked like a player.
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Re: RealGM Top 100 List 2017 -- #14 

Post#83 » by trex_8063 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:36 pm

Thru post #82 (19 votes, so 10 needed for majority):

Karl Malone - 6 (scabbarista, trex_8063, Winsome Gerbil, Joao Saraiva, oldschooled, janmagn)
Jerry West - 5 (andrewww, Doctor MJ, mdonnelly1989, Outside, RCM88x)
Julius Erving - 4 (BasketballFan7, Dr Positivity, Pablo Novi, Hornet Mania)
George Mikan - 2 (penbeast0, wojoaderge)
Moses Malone - 1 (JordansBulls)
David Robinson - 1 (drza)


David Robinson and Moses are eliminated from contention; those secondary votes transfer to West and Mailman respectively, bringing new totals to:

Karl Malone - 7
Jerry West - 6
Dr. J - 4
Mikan - 2


Mikan is eliminated; one vote transferred to West, one to Moses (already eliminated, so becomes a "ghost vote").....

Karl Malone - 7
Jerry West - 7
Dr. J - 4


Dr. J is eliminated, votes transferred are two to Karl Malone and two to Dirk Nowitzki ("ghost votes"), bringing it to:

Karl Malone - 9
Jerry West - 7


Mailman is the default winner. Will have the next thread up shortly....

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Re: RealGM Top 100 List 2017 -- #14 

Post#84 » by Pablo Novi » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:47 pm

I came in after the first GOAT Top 7 or so.
Iirc, I have not voted, as my first choice, for a single player who as won in the last 7 polls. So, PERHAPS, seeing as "I haven't been getting my way"; compliments are my part may count a bit extra. so ...

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