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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#81 » by Owly » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:06 pm

coastalmarker99 wrote:If he loses this series even without Booker his legacy takes a massive hit.

coastalmarker99 wrote:We should expect him to beat a 36 win team while being a huge favourite.
CP3 gets more excuses for his failures in the playoffs than any other player in NBA history.
And that's a fact
A loss to the pels would be a final stamp on his career of choking.
He is great at front running in the playoffs as seen in game 1 of this series.
But as soon as his teams really need him to step up he disappears.
Case in point game 4 of the 2021 finals in which he as usual completely **** the bed under pressure.
As if he had even played an average game the suns go up 3 games to 1 and he most likely has a ring.

Aren't these angles mutually incompatible.

If "as soon as his teams really need him to step up he disappears", it is "usual [that he] completely **** the bed under pressure" and in reality needs "excuses" for his poor play, why would a continuation of a career long pattern at age 36, year 17, where his status is nowhere near his apex (people can reasonably differ but for instance I don't see many putting him in the top 10 this season and his status regarding best player within his own team is debated) in a first round series lead to a massive downgrade. I can't see any reason why that would give a guy's legacy a massive hit, surely it would be entirely in line with expectations.

The best case for a massive move would be a massive rise. But even that wouldn't stand up too well internally, because that would presumably require this one instance to lead to a revision in perceptions of a [perceived] career long pattern.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#82 » by Woodsanity » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:09 pm

Legacy game? 37 year olds don't have legacy games on the downside. :lol:

Thats like saying Lebron is a bum now for not taking the Lakers to even the playin or Wizards Jordan hurts Jordan's legacy. :roll:
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#83 » by jalengreen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:13 pm

one could argue that no game for a 37-year-old can ever really be a legacy game. The fact that CP3 is a good enough player at 37 for this to be considered a legacy series is remarkable and if he was a bench player who didn't really have much of an impact, this certainly *wouldn't* be a legacy series. So is it fair to penalize him for being an extraordinary 37-year-old but not quite extraordinary enough (in the hypothetical where the suns lose)?
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#84 » by TroubleS0me » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:14 am


never seen a player with so much bad luck like CP3 throughout their career
now Booker is hurt
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Post#85 » by TroubleS0me » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:15 am

Game 3

0 Turnovers
14 AST
28 PTS

Phoenix Suns Total Turnovers : 5
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Post#86 » by ardee » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:32 am

What a player. Hopefully Booker is healing up soon and will be back by the 2nd round.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#87 » by jalengreen » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:40 am

TroubleS0me wrote:Game 3

0 Turnovers
14 AST
28 PTS

Phoenix Suns Total Turnovers : 5
Pelicans :14

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was surprised he didnt do this last season.. turns out he had 24/14. so close.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#88 » by Jaivl » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:28 am

Guessing Paul's legacy is secure and set in stone forever, now that he won his LEGACY GAME?
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Post#89 » by WestGOAT » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:40 am

Absolutely crazy that's he's still capable of these performances at this stage of his career. GOAT mid-range game.

Curious to see how he will fare against Klay guarding him later in WCF if their two teams meet and Booker is still out.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#90 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:01 am

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HeartBreakKid wrote:Legacy game? If the Suns beat the Pelicans people will forget about it almost instantly. They'll just say they were an 8th seed.


They're basically the 9 seed.... And if Pg didn't get Covid they wouldn't have been in playoffs. Booker without Cp3 went 2-0 against a much better Pg13 led Clips who just upset 1 seed Utah. And lets be honest they basically beat Lakers despite or in spite of Cp3 he was playing with one hand and a liability for 90% of that series when Can Payne was better than him. All those narratives Cp3 is the best player on the team and massive credit he's gotten for Suns turnaround - to be clear he's a big part but he's gotten more credits than he's deserved - will look very wrong and sus if they just flame out and get upset against an okay Pels team without Booker. They're still huge favorites to win series. LEGACY series period.

The Pelicans with CJ Mcolum are....very much better than an 8th seed...? If they had him the entire year they'd have a better record.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#91 » by tsherkin » Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:08 pm

Another really impressive performance from Paul. Random side note, Paul is averaging 25 ppg in this series. If he finishes this series doing that, it'll be the third time in his entire career and his second with Phoenix (though he did average 24.6 ppg 2x, and it's an arbitrary threshold). Kind of neat to see that in his mid/late 30s, he's dialing it up like that in the playoffs.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#92 » by JordansBulls » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:20 am

I'm pulling for CP3 this year. Last year I was pulling for Giannis.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#93 » by coastalmarker99 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:14 am

CP3 playoff failure bingo card missing this one.

First-round loss as #1 seed.

He has done pretty much everything else when it comes to choking.
Reggie Jackson is amazing and a killer in the clutch that's all.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#94 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:25 am

coastalmarker99 wrote:CP3 playoff failure bingo card missing this one.

First-round loss as #1 seed.

He has done pretty much everything else when it comes to choking.

This would be especially humiliating since this particular 8th seed is ten games under .500 and missing their franchise player. This would be an all-time, legacy-defining chokejob by CP3 and Phoenix.

4 points on 2-8 shooting in such a pivotal game in the series is a very bad look for CP3.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#95 » by GSP » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:32 am

If he cant hunt slow bigs like Jonas in pick and roll mismatch his scoring looks horrific. Alvarado had him in jail and thats why the last 2 seasons he was really ineffective against teams like Warriors and last years Lakers. Strong Poa defenders that dont allow you to hunt their weak links as much and he looks bad..... the ceiling of the offense is so much lower without Booker and its on defense too..... Devins become an underrated individual defender. Last year Cp3 when healthy was their best player this year its def been Booker
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#96 » by coastalmarker99 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:47 am

CP3 rarely takes over offensively on cue in the playoffs when his teams most need him.

He shows glimpses at times such as game 3 of this series but it is clear he needs another alpha scorer alongside him to be successful in the playoffs.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#97 » by GSP » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:58 am

coastalmarker99 wrote:CP3 rarely takes over offensively on cue in the playoffs when his teams most need him.

He shows glimpses at times such as game 3 of this series but it is clear he needs another alpha scorer alongside him to be successful in the playoffs.


Over time Hornets Cp3 has gotten underrated while other versions overrated on offense. Later versions of Cp3 def improved on defense specially in La and Houston. When he was still a freak athlete before injuries he could get to the rim whenever he wanted. Hes had to develop an alltime midrange after Nola but its only effective when hes hunting mismatches in pick and roll. Have a strong Poa defense and dont give up those switches in pickandroll to him and hes timid and shrinks. He COOKED Jonas in game 3 but No did a far better job not letting Cp3 attack him and playing Nance more whos a long switchable defender. Hayes shouldnt start anymore IMO Id put Alvarado in the starting lineup the pesky, short defense Cp3 was known for irritating other players with Alvarado an even shorter player does it to Cp3 and hes really hard to screen off b/c of his footspeed
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#98 » by 70sFan » Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:54 am

I thought last game was his deciding, legacy game? Do you all waiting for him to play bad or what? Why did you all ignore game 3 when he played like a superstar in supposed LEGACY GAME?

I really thought PC Board is better than that...
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#99 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:03 am

Damn, Chris Paul lost his legacy defining game - he should have saved what he had in game 3 for this one as this one was his legacy.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#100 » by GSP » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:08 am

70sFan wrote:I thought last game was his deciding, legacy game? Do you all waiting for him to play bad or what? Why did you all ignore game 3 when he played like a superstar in supposed LEGACY GAME?

I really thought PC Board is better than that...


Who said anything about a legacy GAME...... If it was someone else cool but as soon as Devin got hurt and they lost game 2 i said itd be a legacy defining SERIES not game......anything can happen in a random game but a whole series is alot to work with......and Suns are still 3 to 1 favorites to win despite being tied.......Cp3 if youre reading this dont let a 36 win team while you won 64 beat you and have 5'9 Alvardo locking your ass up........clock is ticking

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