Stephen Curry All-NBA (2nd) Jimmy Butler and Draymond 24-25 NBA Season Thread

TroubleS0me · Post #81 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:00 am

tsherkin wrote:Well, when he's on the floor, he'll give them a shot in the arm as far as drawing fouls, that's for sure, and that's been a significant weakness in their O so far. We'll see how it goes.

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Post #82 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:26 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:
tsherkin wrote:Well, when he's on the floor, he'll give them a shot in the arm as far as drawing fouls, that's for sure, and that's been a significant weakness in their O so far. We'll see how it goes.

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Nice find. Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Steph doesn't have the juice inside the arc that he did in even recent years, so if Butler's healthy, that's what he'll bring. And it'll let Curry move around and be a pest while focusing primarily on his outside shot.

EDIT: A game like the Lakers game, Butler would have been useful. Steph just could NOT get it done.

TroubleS0me · Post #83 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:18 am

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TroubleS0me · Post #84 » by **TroubleS0me** » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:16 am

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EmpireFalls · Post #85 » by **EmpireFalls** » Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:30 pm

This is probably the 3rd best team in the West once Kuminga comes back.

The-Power · Post #86 » by **The-Power** » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:10 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:This is probably the 3rd best team in the West once Kuminga comes back.

I would love for you to be right but I'd be shocked if that were the case. If you told me we can keep PHX (and SAS) behind us and overtake SAC and DAL to clinch the 8th seed I'd sign right here and now. I do expect the Warriors to win at a higher rate for the rest of the season (health provided) but I definitely do not see us have a W/L% close to 0.65 (Denver's current number) for remaining games.

parsnips33 · Post #87 » by **parsnips33** » Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:04 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:This is probably the 3rd best team in the West once Kuminga comes back.

Please stop jinxing these guys!!! :lol:

But yeah, I like this team a lot with Jimmy

ShotCreator · Post #88 » by **ShotCreator** » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:06 pm

With his transition into being this PF/PG hybrid with a monstrous FTR after he turned 30, Jimmy Butler might be the best fit for Curry, ever.

An even more natural fit than Durant.

TroubleS0me · Post #89 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:21 am

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TroubleS0me · Post #90 » by **TroubleS0me** » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:51 am

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parsnips33 · Post #91 » by **parsnips33** » Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:44 pm

Legit got emotional during the Iguodala jersey retirement, I love this team

TroubleS0me · Post #92 » by **TroubleS0me** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:41 am

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parsnips33 · Post #93 » by **parsnips33** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:22 pm

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That's my GOAT

parsnips33 · Post #94 » by **parsnips33** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:36 am

Psychopath Steph

EmpireFalls · Post #95 » by **EmpireFalls** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:46 am

This team is a Western Conference contender. Name one team they can’t beat right now

TroubleS0me · Post #96 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:54 am

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parsnips33 · Post #97 » by **parsnips33** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:05 pm

52nd pick of the draft shooting 40% on 3s, 9.5 attempts per 36

The Postman Always Slings Nice (Scores Thrice?)

Him and Steph together outscored Orlando in the second half lol

Post #98 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:16 pm

parsnips33 wrote:52nd pick of the draft shooting 40% on 3s, 9.5 attempts per 36

The Postman Always Slings Nice (Scores Thrice?)

Him and Steph together outscored Orlando in the second half lol

And setting some nice screens along the way.

The-Power · Post #99 » by **The-Power** » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:01 pm

Update after roughly a month and 11 games after Butler's debut:

9-2 W/L, +13.3 NetRtg (3rd in the NBA), 5th in ORTG, 2nd in DRTG

Broken down for each player for a better overview (so some lines are repeated):

Curry, Butler, Green ON: +11.4 (122.9 ORTG, 112.6 DRTG) in 169 Minutes
Curry Butler ON, Green OFF: +19.8 (82.5 ORTG, 62.7 DRTG) in 14 Minutes
Curry, Green ON, Butler OFF: +35.8 (135.6 ORTG, 99.7 DRTG) in 88 Minutes
Curry ON, Green, Butler OFF: +14.3 (133.1 ORTG, 118.9 DRTG) in 84 Minutes

Butler, Green, Curry ON: +11.4 (122.9 ORTG, 112.6 DRTG) in 169 Minutes
Butler, Curry ON, Green OFF: +19.8 (82.5 ORTG, 62.7 DRTG) in 14 Minutes
Butler, Green ON, Curry OFF: +25.3 (122.7 ORTG, 97.4 DRTG) in 69 Minutes
Butler ON, Green, Curry OFF: +3.8 (110.2 ORTG, 106.3 DRTG) in 53 Minutes

Green, Curry, Butler ON: +11.4 (122.9 ORTG, 112.6 DRTG) in 169 Minutes
Green, Curry ON, Butler OFF: +35.8 (135.6 ORTG, 99.7 DRTG) in 88 Minutes
Green, Butler ON, Curry OFF: +25.3 (122.7 ORTG, 97.4 DRTG) in 69 Minutes
Green ON, Butler, Curry OFF: -95.9 (68.5 ORTG, 164.4 DRTG) in 8 Minutes

Compiled from fantasylabs on/off.

Some observations and takeaways (keep in mind the small sample size):

– All line-ups with Curry are successful, including when he plays without both Butler and Green
– Butler-led line-ups without the other two are thus far treading water which is already big for GSW
– Green almost always plays with at least one of the two co-stars while Curry plays the most without them
– Curry and Butler without Green is a line-up combination rarely used as Kerr is clearly staggering these two

AEnigma · Post #100 » by **AEnigma** » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:55 pm

The-Power wrote:Curry, Green ON, Butler OFF: +35.8 (135.6 ORTG, 99.7 DRTG) in 88 Minutes
Curry ON, Green, Butler OFF: +14.3 (133.1 ORTG, 118.9 DRTG) in 84 Minutes

For the season, Curry and Green (without Butler) are +7.7 in 882 minutes, and Curry alone is -1.7 in 634 minutes. However, if I add some additional filtering for Wiggins, then solo Curry jumps up to +12.2 in 297 minutes… because Curry with just Wiggins was a horrific -14 in 337 minutes.

If they can get up to the fifth seed then they definitely should win a round. Less sure how they fare against the Nuggets or Lakers, but would not put their odds lower than 40% regardless. Butler and Draymond are reliable playoff risers, and neither opponent has the personnel to comfortably defend Steph.

Do you like the trade?