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TaylorMonkey wrote:gaf234 wrote:The fact that GSW is still good enough to be up 3-2 in the Finals should maybe cause you to reflect that there's more to a 73 win team than a nebulous notion of "gravity".
Gravity is hardly nebulous. It can and has objectively been measured and observed.
WarriorsEFC wrote:Thankyou. Finally someone who gets it.
This is why for the last 7 months I've been telling Cav fans that the luckiest thing to happen to them in the finals was Irving and Love getting injured... because if they had played we would have swept them.
PaulieWal wrote:G35 wrote:MisterHibachi wrote:And it seems to me that people here are starting to drift towards a position where it's impossible for Curry to have a bad game. So even if he shoots bad, or doesn't shoot at all, or plays bad defense, or does what we generally think a bad game consists of, it's brushed off as, well he has so much impact just being on the floor as a spacer and he gets his team open looks just by being there. Basically saying that's it's impossible for him to have a bad game, impact wise. On paper, such a player is possible, but in practice, I'm not willing to afford any player that kind of leeway. How can we ever call out any kind of great spacer for a bad game? Can we call out Shaq for his bad games? Dirk, Ray Allen? How about the great offensive rebounders who always need a body on them?
What about Lebron? I have the same questions about him, but he always has his numbers to back him up so that's good enough.
But it always comes back to did said player win or lose the game.
When the Warriors won G1 and G2 Curry was having a large amount of impact despite so-so shooting.
When the Warriors lose then his awesomeness is questioned. It really just depends on which side of the coin you are on decides whether he has had a bad game or not......
What? LeBron is openly criticized for is bad games and series losses. Curry for whatever reason has escaped the scrutiny that other superstars like LeBron or even Kobe used to get for their bad games/moments.
G35 wrote:And what do people say when you criticize Lebron?
"Check the stats...what more do you want him to do? He doesn't have any help. He has to do it all."
I noticed several plays in G1 and G2 where Curry just running through the lane caused all sorts of havoc with CLE defense. The difference now is CLE has adjusted by not leaving Draymond alone and now are leaving Barnes alone.
Also, Curry just became this elite player in the last few years. People have been saying Lebron is as good as Jordan back in 2007 when he made it to the finals. After 2009, the comparison to Jordan got even more intense statistically. Then with everything that comes with Lebron it has been a solid 10 years of him being in the spotlight. Believe it or not but after a while, any player will gain some critics. Fans just have to toughen up their skin and understand that.
Curry hasn't made any proclamations about how many titles he is going to win, he hasn't said he wants to be a global icon, he got dropped from Nike (shows how much respect he was getting), and he played for the Warriors a franchise that made the playoffs ONE TIME from 1995-2012, a total of 18 years. So really, why should he be getting all this criticism? He's still a fresh face compared to Lebron.......
JordansBulls wrote:The Warriors are basically a good college team until they meet a team with bigs in the NBA.
GIMME_DATT wrote:Some weak foul calls on him tonight
Colbinii wrote:GIMME_DATT wrote:Some weak foul calls on him tonight
Yeah, there were some weak ones all over the place.
Clyde Frazier wrote:Colbinii wrote:GIMME_DATT wrote:Some weak foul calls on him tonight
Yeah, there were some weak ones all over the place.
The 2nd foul called on him and the 3rd call on love just shouldn't have been called. It's pretty frustrating to watch.
BBall Loyalty wrote:1 assist from a PG?
Peja Stojakovic wrote:Jimmy butler, with no regard for human life
BBall Loyalty wrote:1 assist from a PG?
Colbinii wrote:Clyde Frazier wrote:Colbinii wrote:
Yeah, there were some weak ones all over the place.
The 2nd foul called on him and the 3rd call on love just shouldn't have been called. It's pretty frustrating to watch.
Yeah those two both came to mind and changed the way the game went. However, you have to know you have 5 fouls and attempting to steal a ball from LeBron James in the backcourt is a stupid play.
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GSP wrote:His playmaking/passing has been exposed for what it is this series. Warriors get away with making some really bad passes due to their ridiculous shot making.
I don't see Steph having a case for POY anymore. Kyrie has outplayed him this series. The warriors rely on their depth. Got killed in the paint in this one with no Bogut, got killed on switches last game without Draymond.
With Iggy's condition and Bogut out for rim protection Steph really had nowhere to hide on defense. Especially late in the game.
His legacy is on the line in game 7. No Bogut screens/passing. Iggy hurt. They're not winning game 7 on defense. If he's truly an offensive GOAT peak candidate or more simply in the peak offense Kobe/Wade/Cp3/KD etc. tier but just heightens to peak GOAT offense levels due to the absolute perfect support to maximise his talents, with his game suffering when players get hurt/miss games, will show it on game 7.
tlee324 wrote:
Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
oolalaa wrote:I was told that he "solved" offensive basketball a few months ago. What's going on?
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