2017 Golden State Warriors Thread

Post #801 » by **bondom34** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:40 am

FWIW, that schedule stretch was no tougher than what Washington was doing at the same time, or at least similar.

clyde21 · Post #802 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:20 am

bondom34 wrote:FWIW, that schedule stretch was no tougher than what Washington was doing at the same time, or at least similar.

Not sure if anyone is saying that the Warriors are the only victims of this. All of the teams are - and all of the teams have been on record saying they dislike the scheduling at one point or the other.

Granted Iggy handled it poorly.

JulesWinnfield · Post #803 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:16 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
"The Luke Walton question is an interesting one. I think what happened with Luke Walton in some ways speaks to some of the issues this team has where his success undermined Kerr's authority," said Strauss. "They played the best basketball they ever had when Kerr was not coaching the team, when Luke was letting them do a lot of what they really wanted and Draymond (Green) was essentially player-coach and that has ratcheted up the tension, I believe, between those two figures. And so it's so hard to say. Is it because they miss Luke Walton? Or Luke Walton's presence on the team and the success that came with it came to haunt them in some way."

This is interesting, and a dynamic i hadn't seen given much thought to. It also perhaps sheds a different light on the igoudala comments as it relates to Kerr. (We do what massa say) It could be the team is frustrated with Kerr taking too much of a hands on approach.

I don't think any of this makes them incapable of winning a title if healthy, but I guess it's an added obstacle. We have seen interior drama have an impact on teams in the past

Do we know for sure that Iggy was talking about Kerr and not the NBA as a whole in terms of giving them a brutal stretch of scheduling, and then people complaining when they take a rest day?

He was told Kerr said that they would be sitting vs the Spurs and replied that he didn't know that, and "we do what massa say". It's tough to read it any other way than he was talking about Kerr

Heej · Post #804 » by **Heej** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:04 pm

Doesn't matter what happens in the regular season in regards to chemistry when playoffs come around. I remember the segment from last season of Dwight on Inside the NBA where Jet was talking about how in the playoffs everyone is able to put aside any differences that they had during the RS and focus solely on winning. Which is what Harden and Dwight were able to do in 2015. I think from a chemistry standpoint all this talk of divisions in the locker room will ultimately get stamped out by the singular focus of winning a championship. It's the aftermath that's going to be a big deal.

Bergmaniac · Post #805 » by **Bergmaniac** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:09 pm

Nothing like a game at home against us to get a team back on track and in a good mood.

JulesWinnfield · Post #806 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:43 pm

Orlando is a joke, even the Knicks have won at their place on the road twice this month (frustratingly so as I'd rather the Knicks just get those ping pong balls). I lasted 9 minutes of that game before I had enough

Milwaukee tomorrow will be more interesting, the Bucks have a habit of playing GSW well and those teams have low key built up some bad blood in the regular season the past couple years. Looking forward to that one. These next couple weeks in general are interesting, save for the home game against the Kings every game is loseable

PCProductions · Post #807 » by **PCProductions** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:17 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:Orlando is a joke, even the Knicks have won at their place on the road twice this month (frustratingly so as I'd rather the Knicks just get those ping pong balls). I lasted 9 minutes of that game before I had enough

But Klay was going off! Nothing like a good Klay game.

clyde21 · Post #808 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:28 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
This is interesting, and a dynamic i hadn't seen given much thought to. It also perhaps sheds a different light on the igoudala comments as it relates to Kerr. (We do what massa say) It could be the team is frustrated with Kerr taking too much of a hands on approach.

I don't think any of this makes them incapable of winning a title if healthy, but I guess it's an added obstacle. We have seen interior drama have an impact on teams in the past

Do we know for sure that Iggy was talking about Kerr and not the NBA as a whole in terms of giving them a brutal stretch of scheduling, and then people complaining when they take a rest day?

He was told Kerr said that they would be sitting vs the Spurs and replied that he didn't know that, and "we do what massa say". It's tough to read it any other way than he was talking about Kerr

Again - not necessarily a dig at Kerr, just the entire system as it stands.

JulesWinnfield · Post #809 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Do we know for sure that Iggy was talking about Kerr and not the NBA as a whole in terms of giving them a brutal stretch of scheduling, and then people complaining when they take a rest day?

He was told Kerr said that they would be sitting vs the Spurs and replied that he didn't know that, and "we do what massa say". It's tough to read it any other way than he was talking about Kerr

Again - not necessarily a dig at Kerr, just the entire system as it stands.

He was replying directly to being told Kerr just said he would be resting. It's absolutely impossible to read into this a shot at the league or "system", there is nothing to remotely believe that's what he was implying especially given what prompted the comments. He was talking about Kerr and replying to a comment from Kerr that was relayed to him. This is simple and only a Warrior fan could try and spin this another way. He was taking a shot at Kerr, which he and his boy Dray probably do behind the scenes 24/7.

clyde21 · Post #810 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:35 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
He was told Kerr said that they would be sitting vs the Spurs and replied that he didn't know that, and "we do what massa say". It's tough to read it any other way than he was talking about Kerr

Again - not necessarily a dig at Kerr, just the entire system as it stands.

He was replying directly to being told Kerr just said he would be resting. It's absolutely impossible to read into this a shot at the league or "system", there is nothing to remotely believe that's what he was implying especially given what prompted the comments. He was talking about Kerr and replying to a comment from Kerr that was relayed to him. This is simple and only a Warrior fan could try and spin this another way. He was taking a shot at Kerr, which he and his boy Dray probably do behind the scenes 24/7.

Me thinks you're psychoanalyzing his comments.

Par for the course, though.

JulesWinnfield · Post #811 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:38 pm

I'm psychoanalyzing? You are the one tying to read into his comments things that aren't there. He was responding to a Kerr comment and referencing Kerr in the response, but you are here trying to tell me he was actually using Kerr as some metaphor for the nba or "system"

The simplest explanation is he was talking about Kerr. Because he was. You are the one putting different spins on it

MisterHibachi · Post #812 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:38 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
He was told Kerr said that they would be sitting vs the Spurs and replied that he didn't know that, and "we do what massa say". It's tough to read it any other way than he was talking about Kerr

Again - not necessarily a dig at Kerr, just the entire system as it stands.

He was replying directly to being told Kerr just said he would be resting. It's absolutely impossible to read into this a shot at the league or "system", there is nothing to remotely believe that's what he was implying especially given what prompted the comments. He was talking about Kerr and replying to a comment from Kerr that was relayed to him. This is simple and only a Warrior fan could try and spin this another way. He was taking a shot at Kerr, which he and his boy Dray probably do behind the scenes 24/7.

Read on Twitter that Kerr had already told everyone on the team that the core guys would be resting before media availability, so Iggy already knew when they asked him that question. While I do believe these comments about the Warriors having some internal problems, I don't think Iggy's comments are worth reading too much into.

JulesWinnfield · Post #813 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:44 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Again - not necessarily a dig at Kerr, just the entire system as it stands.

He was replying directly to being told Kerr just said he would be resting. It's absolutely impossible to read into this a shot at the league or "system", there is nothing to remotely believe that's what he was implying especially given what prompted the comments. He was talking about Kerr and replying to a comment from Kerr that was relayed to him. This is simple and only a Warrior fan could try and spin this another way. He was taking a shot at Kerr, which he and his boy Dray probably do behind the scenes 24/7.

Read on Twitter that Kerr had already told everyone on the team that the core guys would be resting before media availability, so Iggy already knew when they asked him that question. While I do believe these comments about the Warriors having some internal problems, I don't think Iggy's comments are worth reading too much into.

After what Strauss had to say I'd disageee. It fits a pattern we see developing. There are clearly guys in that locker room that feel he is too hands on, and these slavemaster comments add to it

JulesWinnfield · Post #814 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Told they would be sitting and he says "I do what massa say"

And "massa" in this instance is supposed to be the "nba" or "system"? Was it the nba telling iggy he would be sitting? Nah. That was kerr

clyde21 · Post #815 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:Told they would be sitting and he says "I do what massa say"

And "massa" in this instance is supposed to be the "nba" or "system"? Was it the nba telling iggy he would be sitting? Nah. That was kerr

Like I said, we don't really know, and either way you're reading way too much into it. I'd let it go man.

MisterHibachi · Post #816 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 pm

I thought his entire slave mentality tirade was aimed at the NBA and that last comment was weird, but just an expression of frustration after a bad loss.

JulesWinnfield · Post #817 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:58 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:Told they would be sitting and he says "I do what massa say"

And "massa" in this instance is supposed to be the "nba" or "system"? Was it the nba telling iggy he would be sitting? Nah. That was kerr

Like I said, we don't really know, and either way you're reading way too much into it. I'd let it go man.

What is there not to know? You have to be stretching yourself 500 different ways to come to any conclusion other than he was talking about Kerr with the massa stuff. Think it's not a big deal and something they can plow through? Fine. Deny all together that he was talking about Kerr when all evidence points to it? That's just delusional

The-Power · Post #818 » by **The-Power** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:04 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:Told they would be sitting and he says "I do what massa say"

And "massa" in this instance is supposed to be the "nba" or "system"? Was it the nba telling iggy he would be sitting? Nah. That was kerr

Like I said, we don't really know, and either way you're reading way too much into it. I'd let it go man.

What is there not to know? You have to be stretching yourself 500 different ways to come to any conclusion other than he was talking about Kerr with the massa stuff. Think it's not a big deal and something they can plow through? Fine. Deny all together that he was talking about Kerr when all evidence points to it? That's just delusional

Not saying you're necessarily wrong. But you can't take everything he said at face value when, in the very same response, Dre said he knew nothing about the resting although he has most certainly been informed about it at that point.

It certainly wasn't the first cryptic and odd comment from Iggy over the past few years that left people wondering what his point was.

clyde21 · Post #819 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:06 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:I thought his entire slave mentality tirade was aimed at the NBA and that last comment was weird, but just an expression of frustration after a bad loss.

Pretty much this.

JulesWinnfield · Post #820 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:19 pm

I'm trying to understand how anyone can interpret his comments as being about the nba and not Kerr

Reporter: Steve said you guys will be resting tomorrow at San Antonio

Answer: I just do what massa say

How in the world in this instance could it possibly be interpreted that "massa" in this exchange is the NBA? I don't see any other conceivable way to interpret it other than the most obvious straightforward deduction here being that he is talking about kerr

And when also thrown in the backdrop of Strauss's comments about the team being irked with Kerr for being too hands on, all it does is add to it

If you don't think it's a big deal, fine. But to deny he's talking about Kerr? Makes less than zero sense