The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

[Dr Positivity]

Golden State may be a better team just because of the individual improvement of Curry, Klay and Draymond, but I otherwise prefer how they played last year. I am not as impressed by either their ball movement or defense this time, and win or lose they're out of the GOAT conversation for me after some flaws that led them to be being pushed to 7 by OKC and CLE. On a pure subjective level which may not be fair, I feel like 2014 Spurs were playing better basketball than this

[JordansBulls]

For some reason I think G.S wanted to win the title at home, it is just a dangerous game though.

[therealbig3]

Played a pretty stupid game imo. Constantly reaching and putting himself in risky situations despite the foul trouble. Kerr trusted him and he kept betraying that trust over and over again. I don't think his last 2 were fouls, but they were unnecessarily risky plays that certainly had the potential to be called fouls, and he shouldn't have been putting himself in that situation over and over again.

He was actually playing well offensively too. But he would break his own momentum every time by committing a dumb foul. No excuse for his stupidity out there tonight.

[therealbig3]

His playmaking/passing has been exposed for what it is this series. Warriors get away with making some really bad passes due to their ridiculous shot making.

I don't see Steph having a case for POY anymore. Kyrie has outplayed him this series. The warriors rely on their depth. Got killed in the paint in this one with no Bogut, got killed on switches last game without Draymond.

With Iggy's condition and Bogut out for rim protection Steph really had nowhere to hide on defense. Especially late in the game.

His legacy is on the line in game 7. No Bogut screens/passing. Iggy hurt. They're not winning game 7 on defense. If he's truly an offensive GOAT peak candidate or more simply in the peak offense Kobe/Wade/Cp3/KD etc. tier but just heightens to peak GOAT offense levels due to the absolute perfect support to maximise his talents, with his game suffering when players get hurt/miss games, will show it on game 7.

CP3 doesn't deserve to with those other players... But on that note, where's therealbig3 with his caping?

Unlike you, I don't run and hide when things don't go the way I want them to.

[bigboi]

His playmaking/passing has been exposed for what it is this series. Warriors get away with making some really bad passes due to their ridiculous shot making.

I don't see Steph having a case for POY anymore. Kyrie has outplayed him this series. The warriors rely on their depth. Got killed in the paint in this one with no Bogut, got killed on switches last game without Draymond.

With Iggy's condition and Bogut out for rim protection Steph really had nowhere to hide on defense. Especially late in the game.

His legacy is on the line in game 7. No Bogut screens/passing. Iggy hurt. They're not winning game 7 on defense. If he's truly an offensive GOAT peak candidate or more simply in the peak offense Kobe/Wade/Cp3/KD etc. tier but just heightens to peak GOAT offense levels due to the absolute perfect support to maximise his talents, with his game suffering when players get hurt/miss games, will show it on game 7.

CP3 doesn't deserve to with those other players... But on that note, where's therealbig3 with his caping?

Unlike you, I don't run and hide when things don't go the way I want them to.

Curry's been bad for most of the series, what would I even need to run away from? This was actually a good game considering how bad he's been playing

[therealbig3]

CP3 doesn't deserve to with those other players... But on that note, where's therealbig3 with his caping?

Unlike you, I don't run and hide when things don't go the way I want them to.

Curry's been bad for most of the series, what would I even need to run away from? This was actually a good game considering how bad he's been playing

Yeah, and that's why you've been here posting. Whenever he's played well, you've disappeared, only to show up when he struggles again.

And then you call me out, when I've openly said multiple times that he's played like crap this series? LOL, hop off dude.

[Peregrine01]

Played a pretty stupid game imo. Constantly reaching and putting himself in risky situations despite the foul trouble. Kerr trusted him and he kept betraying that trust over and over again. I don't think his last 2 were fouls, but they were unnecessarily risky plays that certainly had the potential to be called fouls, and he shouldn't have been putting himself in that situation over and over again.

He was actually playing well offensively too. But he would break his own momentum every time by committing a dumb foul. No excuse for his stupidity out there tonight.

If you're not being active out there on defense, you're doing a disservice to your team. From what I saw, the refs weren't even letting him play defense with the calls that they were making.

[GSP]

Golden State may be a better team just because of the individual improvement of Curry, Klay and Draymond, but I otherwise prefer how they played last year. I am not as impressed by either their ball movement or defense this time, and win or lose they're out of the GOAT conversation for me after some flaws that led them to be being pushed to 7 by OKC and CLE. On a pure subjective level which may not be fair, I feel like 2014 Spurs were playing better basketball than this

Their ball movement wasnt any better last year. Warriors have always done well passing but the hidden secret is they make some sloppy passes, theyre just arguably the Goat shot making team. This was the case last postseason as well and if Memphis or Cleveland werent hurt they very likely wouldve seen 2 game 7s last postseason as well. Tony Allen was locking down the Splash Bros pretty good until his injury got to be too much (they were 0/12 on 3s defended by him at one point IIRC). Yeah their plan to ignore him on offense worked but his defense still wasnt the same later in the series and Conley was badly banged up too.

With Cleveland even if Love was hurt and Kyrie didnt get injured in game 1 that still wouldve gone 7 IMO. He was outplaying Steph on both ends in game 1. Then got injured in overtime where they fell apart.

But you are absolutely right about their defense. Their defense was far better last postseason and the biggest reason they won it all. IIRC they had the best postseason defense since the 04 Pistons. I was talking up their defensive talent well before and ppl still pointed to their offense for their majority success last season. Bogut and Iggy arent the defenders they were last year, still both great but they were both per minute top tier guys last season. Especially Bogut who was per minute right there with Draymond. This season theyve had to rely on Draymond far, far more for their entire defense.

[therealbig3]

Played a pretty stupid game imo. Constantly reaching and putting himself in risky situations despite the foul trouble. Kerr trusted him and he kept betraying that trust over and over again. I don't think his last 2 were fouls, but they were unnecessarily risky plays that certainly had the potential to be called fouls, and he shouldn't have been putting himself in that situation over and over again.

He was actually playing well offensively too. But he would break his own momentum every time by committing a dumb foul. No excuse for his stupidity out there tonight.

If you're not being active out there on defense, you're doing a disservice to your team. From what I saw, the refs weren't even letting him play defense with the calls that they were making.

Sure, he had a legit gripe on some of those calls, but he's still putting himself in a risky position, and honestly, he's lucky he didn't foul out earlier, because he was still being super aggressive on defense despite the foul trouble. And when you know you're in foul trouble, back off and stop reaching in every 5 seconds. You can move your feet and contest with foul trouble...there's no point in going for the steal, because that's inherently risky, especially when it's guys like LeBron and Kyrie you're doing it against.

It was just low BBIQ stuff, from someone that I think is a pretty smart player. That's the kind of stuff I would expect out of a JR Smith.

[U hova]

or Festus Ezeli

[Peregrine01]

Played a pretty stupid game imo. Constantly reaching and putting himself in risky situations despite the foul trouble. Kerr trusted him and he kept betraying that trust over and over again. I don't think his last 2 were fouls, but they were unnecessarily risky plays that certainly had the potential to be called fouls, and he shouldn't have been putting himself in that situation over and over again.

He was actually playing well offensively too. But he would break his own momentum every time by committing a dumb foul. No excuse for his stupidity out there tonight.

If you're not being active out there on defense, you're doing a disservice to your team. From what I saw, the refs weren't even letting him play defense with the calls that they were making.

Sure, he had a legit gripe on some of those calls, but he's still putting himself in a risky position, and honestly, he's lucky he didn't foul out earlier, because he was still being super aggressive on defense despite the foul trouble. And when you know you're in foul trouble, back off and stop reaching in every 5 seconds. You can move your feet and contest with foul trouble...there's no point in going for the steal, because that's inherently risky, especially when it's guys like LeBron and Kyrie you're doing it against.

It was just low BBIQ stuff, from someone that I think is a pretty smart player. That's the kind of stuff I would expect out of a JR Smith.

Curry has great hands on defense. He's a basketball player and basketball players do things instinctively. It's easy to judge from an armchair.

He shouldnt be penalized for playing good defense.

[RSCD3_]

Played a pretty stupid game imo. Constantly reaching and putting himself in risky situations despite the foul trouble. Kerr trusted him and he kept betraying that trust over and over again. I don't think his last 2 were fouls, but they were unnecessarily risky plays that certainly had the potential to be called fouls, and he shouldn't have been putting himself in that situation over and over again.

He was actually playing well offensively too. But he would break his own momentum every time by committing a dumb foul. No excuse for his stupidity out there tonight.

If you're not being active out there on defense, you're doing a disservice to your team. From what I saw, the refs weren't even letting him play defense with the calls that they were making.

Sure, he had a legit gripe on some of those calls, but he's still putting himself in a risky position, and honestly, he's lucky he didn't foul out earlier, because he was still being super aggressive on defense despite the foul trouble. And when you know you're in foul trouble, back off and stop reaching in every 5 seconds. You can move your feet and contest with foul trouble...there's no point in going for the steal, because that's inherently risky, especially when it's guys like LeBron and Kyrie you're doing it against.

It was just low BBIQ stuff, from someone that I think is a pretty smart player. That's the kind of stuff I would expect out of a JR Smith.

To be honest JR smith got a perfectly clean strip and klay and got the foul tonight, if he gets close to a defender with his arms he always get called. Ive noticed the guy has no benefit of the doubt even when he gets clean strips

[DirtyDez]

What will the reaction be if LBJ wins MVP on the losing squad?

[therealbig3]

If you're not being active out there on defense, you're doing a disservice to your team. From what I saw, the refs weren't even letting him play defense with the calls that they were making.

Sure, he had a legit gripe on some of those calls, but he's still putting himself in a risky position, and honestly, he's lucky he didn't foul out earlier, because he was still being super aggressive on defense despite the foul trouble. And when you know you're in foul trouble, back off and stop reaching in every 5 seconds. You can move your feet and contest with foul trouble...there's no point in going for the steal, because that's inherently risky, especially when it's guys like LeBron and Kyrie you're doing it against.

It was just low BBIQ stuff, from someone that I think is a pretty smart player. That's the kind of stuff I would expect out of a JR Smith.

Curry has great hands on defense. He's a basketball player and basketball players do things instinctively. It's easy to judge from an armchair.

He shouldnt be penalized for playing good defense.

Come on, why is he reaching in on LeBron 85 feet away? That wasn't instinct, that was him being frustrated and wanting to get the steal. But it's LeBron James and you have 5 fouls.

It was dumb basketball, sorry.

[therealbig3]

What will the reaction be if LBJ wins MVP on the losing squad?

LeBron totally deserves it. I think it would be a travesty if he doesn't win, regardless of the outcome.

[KidPistol]

Curry played well today even if he was ejected. If he wins game 7, he should get FMVP. He's definitely elevated his play.

[Peregrine01]

Sure, he had a legit gripe on some of those calls, but he's still putting himself in a risky position, and honestly, he's lucky he didn't foul out earlier, because he was still being super aggressive on defense despite the foul trouble. And when you know you're in foul trouble, back off and stop reaching in every 5 seconds. You can move your feet and contest with foul trouble...there's no point in going for the steal, because that's inherently risky, especially when it's guys like LeBron and Kyrie you're doing it against.

It was just low BBIQ stuff, from someone that I think is a pretty smart player. That's the kind of stuff I would expect out of a JR Smith.

Curry has great hands on defense. He's a basketball player and basketball players do things instinctively. It's easy to judge from an armchair.

He shouldnt be penalized for playing good defense.

Come on, why is he reaching in on LeBron 85 feet away? That wasn't instinct, that was him being frustrated and wanting to get the steal. But it's LeBron James and you have 5 fouls.

It was dumb basketball, sorry.

Again, so easy to judge. They were down double digits with 4 mins to go, is it so illogical for a player to try to be aggressive and make a play happen?

Even if it isn't, I'd give curry a pass for losing his cool a bit. He was on the receiving end of some HIGHLY questionable calls that really affected how the game played out.

[Peregrine01]

What will the reaction be if LBJ wins MVP on the losing squad?

LeBron totally deserves it. I think it would be a travesty if he doesn't win, regardless of the outcome.

How so? Not in favour of any player on a losing team winning it. But you can argue that the reason the cavs were even alive for a game 6 was because of Kyrie.

[magicman1978]

What will the reaction be if LBJ wins MVP on the losing squad?

LeBron totally deserves it. I think it would be a travesty if he doesn't win, regardless of the outcome.

How so? Not in favour of any player on a losing team winning it. But you can argue that the reason the cavs were even alive for a game 6 was because of Kyrie.

And the guy who went 41-16-7-3-3 with a monster defensive game had nothing to do with it?

[therealbig3]

What will the reaction be if LBJ wins MVP on the losing squad?

LeBron totally deserves it. I think it would be a travesty if he doesn't win, regardless of the outcome.

How so? Not in favour of any player on a losing team winning it. But you can argue that the reason the cavs were even alive for a game 6 was because of Kyrie.

Nobody's more valuable in this series than LeBron, so he should win MVP for the series.

And even the best game of Kyrie's life wasn't enough to be better than LeBron, who scored the same amount of points, but with 10x the defense in game 5.

And I'd have a much better argument of saying that the only reason this is going to game 7 is because of LeBron.