The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

MisterHibachi · Post #921 » by **MisterHibachi** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:56 am

What a season from this guy. Uneven playoffs and finals, but man that regular season. He needs to improve a few things. He might just get better next year.

NaturalThunder · Post #922 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:57 am

I'll say this about Curry. I do think his size showed how he can be limited as a player when he plays legit/elite teams in a playoff setting. He had couple of good to great games against the Thunder and Cavs, but overall his weaknesses were really exposed in both series (ball security and finishing in the paint ability) and I'm not sure it's something that he can ever, truly fix. I mean he's 6'3", somewhat frail, and pretty mediocre, maybe even a below average athlete in terms of explosiveness, jumping ability, etc.

Curry (and Klay) somewhat got away all season with cheesing the 3P line to unheard of extents, and took and made an inordinate amount of bad to terrible shots. It still dang near won them a championship, but they were also one game of Klay and Curry cheesing the 3P line one last time from losing in the WCF in six games. So yeah, I do think these playoffs somewhat exposed the Warriors and Curry. Both the team and Curry are still elite/great, but I think the WCF and Finals showed relying that heavily on two players who take, and still have the ability to make, so many bad shots was their downfall.

bigboi · Post #923 » by **bigboi** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:58 am

Reservoirdawgs wrote:Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

With the game 7, he played, it is. He played like a complete scrub. Also Kerr is an overrated coach, 3 wasn't falling(other than Draymond) and made no adjustments to try to get his team in the paint

kayess · Post #924 » by **kayess** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:01 am

GSP wrote:
picc wrote:Its unreal how careless Curry is with the ball. Dont think ive ever seen such nonchalance from a great player. Truly mindblowing. Huge possession, game 7 of the finals, behind the back flip pass to no one. He did it in game 4 and smacked himself upside tge head after Klay cleaned his mistake up, and i thought that'd be the end of it. Nope.

He just refuses to take things seriously, regardless of stakes. Totally unreal.

Thats his game. When he makes those flashy plays hes the offensive Goat, when he turns it over he doesnt take things seriously......

Cmon man. Steph isnt a controlled playmaker/ballhandler like Cp3, having him play a controlled game like Cp3 could take away what makes him great. Him and the Warriors thrive on the chaos they create offensively and theyve ALWAYS been a sloppy passing team, they make the right passes but technically their passes have always been suspect. Theyre just Goat level shotmaking so ppl ignore that.

Players personalities come out in their games, u cant put a lion in a cage and think its gonna be a housecat when its released to the wild.

I whole heartedly agree with this. As unreal as it sounds, Steph is the victim of winning bias here.

The other posters are saying he should've drove instead of shooting a few of those - did you watch the RS? That's why we were crowning him GOAT - his ability to make shots that literally no one else can.

bigboi · Post #925 » by **bigboi** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:05 am

kayess wrote:
GSP wrote:
picc wrote:Its unreal how careless Curry is with the ball. Dont think ive ever seen such nonchalance from a great player. Truly mindblowing. Huge possession, game 7 of the finals, behind the back flip pass to no one. He did it in game 4 and smacked himself upside tge head after Klay cleaned his mistake up, and i thought that'd be the end of it. Nope.

He just refuses to take things seriously, regardless of stakes. Totally unreal.

Thats his game. When he makes those flashy plays hes the offensive Goat, when he turns it over he doesnt take things seriously......

Cmon man. Steph isnt a controlled playmaker/ballhandler like Cp3, having him play a controlled game like Cp3 could take away what makes him great. Him and the Warriors thrive on the chaos they create offensively and theyve ALWAYS been a sloppy passing team, they make the right passes but technically their passes have always been suspect. Theyre just Goat level shotmaking so ppl ignore that.

Players personalities come out in their games, u cant put a lion in a cage and think its gonna be a housecat when its released to the wild.

I whole heartedly agree with this. As unreal as it sounds, Steph is the victim of winning bias here.

The other posters are saying he should've drove instead of shooting a few of those - did you watch the RS? That's why we were crowning him GOAT - his ability to make shots that literally no one else can.

The greats learn to adjust or at least make an impact in one aspect. When Curry's three wasn't falling, he was a scrub, straight up. Even if they won, he still doesn't win FMVP with that garbage game 7 performance

kayess · Post #926 » by **kayess** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:06 am

Reservoirdawgs wrote:Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous - can you imagine how reactionary these people would be if LeBron had lost?

People just lack nuance. This isn't even worse than LeBron's 2011 Finals, how can this series by Steph be legacy damning??

edit: I can't believe this is the "best case" scenario. People would be even worse if the Cavs lost game 7, but thank god Steph had that RS and already won a ring. At least the amount of troll posts will be cut by 10-15% because they can't use the "no rings" bull.

Colbinii · Post #927 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:10 am

kayess wrote:
Reservoirdawgs wrote:Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous - can you imagine how reactionary these people would be if LeBron had lost?

People just lack nuance. This isn't even worse than LeBron's 2011 Finals, how can this series by Steph be legacy damning??

It is ridiculous. Have people not learned that people can rebuild a legacy, or that a legacy isn't defined in one game/series? It is like people forgot how unjust they were for treating LeBron in the early 2010's. Stephen Curry is a generational player that was the best player on one of the greatest teams ever. Like any team in NBA history, they had a weakness, and ended up losing to arguable the greatest player ever.

kayess · Post #928 » by **kayess** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:14 am

NaturalThunder wrote:I'll say this about Curry. I do think his size showed how he can be limited as a player when he plays legit/elite teams in a playoff setting. He had couple of good to great games against the Thunder and Cavs, but overall his weaknesses were really exposed in both series (ball security and finishing in the paint ability) and I'm not sure it's something that he can ever, truly fix. I mean he's 6'3", somewhat frail, and pretty mediocre, maybe even a below average athlete in terms of explosiveness, jumping ability, etc.

Curry (and Klay) somewhat got away all season with cheesing the 3P line to unheard of extents, and took and made an inordinate amount of bad to terrible shots. It still dang near won them a championship, but they were also one game of Klay and Curry cheesing the 3P line one last time from losing in the WCF in six games. So yeah, I do think these playoffs somewhat exposed the Warriors and Curry. Both the team and Curry are still elite/great, but I think the WCF and Finals showed relying that heavily on two players who take, and still have the ability to make, so many bad shots was their downfall.

Thank you for being so level headed.

The physicality does bother him, idk if he was injured, but right now it is looking doubtful if Curry can replicate 100% of his RS impact in the playoffs.

But there's time to get better, Curry has a great supporting cast, this is an exciting time for the NBA.

Narigo · Post #929 » by **Narigo** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:17 am

As a bulls fan, this feels good.

Basileus777 · Post #930 » by **Basileus777** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:19 am

kayess wrote:The other posters are saying he should've drove instead of shooting a few of those - did you watch the RS? That's why we were crowning him GOAT - his ability to make shots that literally no one else can.

Huh? In the regular season he did drive and finish more often and much more effectively.

JordansBulls · Post #931 » by **JordansBulls** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:21 am

How do you lose 9 games in the season and then 9 in the playoffs?

ShreddedBoi · Post #932 » by **ShreddedBoi** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:35 am

Honestly I've said this since the beginning of the series and that is the fact that I think Curry's shoulder/knee injuries prevented his finishing and driving ability but it didn't prevent him from making 3s.

With that said, durability is part of the game and Kyrie Irving outplayed him.

Post #933 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:39 am

This went from best season ever to most disappointing season ever real quick.

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nbafan77 · Post #934 » by **nbafan77** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:45 am

I'm a LeBron fan, but I must say that Curry is a great player!
Stop hating in this guy please.

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KidPistol · Post #935 » by **KidPistol** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:58 am

MisterHibachi wrote:What a season from this guy. Uneven playoffs and finals, but man that regular season. He needs to improve a few things. He might just get better next year.

Exactly my sig lol

cpower · Post #936 » by **cpower** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:08 am

KidPistol wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:What a season from this guy. Uneven playoffs and finals, but man that regular season. He needs to improve a few things. He might just get better next year.

Exactly my sig lol

getting in foul troubles in 5 of 7 games would be a starting point 8-)

2klegend · Post #937 » by **2klegend** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:10 am

Honestly it pains me to say this but Curry is a victim of his fanboy hype. If it wasn't for his fanboy, nobody would hate Curry. He is just an underdog who perform at such high level and because of that his fanboy wants to compare him with the GOAT level which is his downfall. I feel bad for the guy and I"m certainly wishing him the best and love his game.

RSCD3_ · Post #938 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:13 am

cpower wrote:
KidPistol wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:What a season from this guy. Uneven playoffs and finals, but man that regular season. He needs to improve a few things. He might just get better next year.

Exactly my sig lol

getting in foul troubles in 5 of 7 games would be a starting point

From what I saw it was a cascade of things like

Curry wasnt in top athletic shape after his injury

He used his hands alot more to depend especially to conserve energy on d, this leads to more reaches being called than if he could simply move his feet like he did in the RS

The cavs sought him out and made him defend a much higher amount of possessions than normal

Dr Positivity · Post #939 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:28 am

This is one of the few years I feel the better team lost the Finals. The loss of Bogut, Iguodala injury, Draymond suspension and Curry probably not 100% was enough for the Cavs to get the slight edge at the end of the day. Nevertheless the Warriors won a title with health luck so that's how it goes.

JeepCSC · Post #940 » by **JeepCSC** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:32 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:This went from best season ever to most disappointing season ever real quick.

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