The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

[HeartBreakKid]

This is one of the few years I feel the better team lost the Finals. The loss of Bogut, Iguodala injury, Draymond suspension and Curry probably not 100% was enough for the Cavs to get the slight edge at the end of the day. Nevertheless the Warriors won a title with health luck so that's how it goes.

If we're going to say that, then we should say that the best team did not win in 2015 either, since the Cavs had much more significant handicaps than the Warriors did this year.

Even if we disregard the Green suspension game, which was his fault - the Cavs blew the Warriors out on two occasions and played the Warriors in a razor close game, they're the same tier if you ask me.

[JeepCSC]

This is one of the few years I feel the better team lost the Finals. The loss of Bogut, Iguodala injury, Draymond suspension and Curry probably not 100% was enough for the Cavs to get the slight edge at the end of the day. Nevertheless the Warriors won a title with health luck so that's how it goes.

If we're going to say that, then we should say that the best team did not win in 2015 either, since the Cavs had much more significant handicaps than the Warriors did this year.

Not necessarily. He's saying the better team was more hobbled this year, not that the more hobbled team is the better team.

[picc]

The only thing more unbelievable than currys nonchalance with the ball are the excuses made for him. He's effectively infallible. When he has a bad game, he really had a good one bc of his gravity. When he makes disastrously careless passes, they're actually the thing that makes him so great. When he wins unanimous mvp and gets touted as goat peak, then chokes a 3-1 lead playing lazy and ineffective ball, there's just room for him to get even better next year. Nobody else would get this level of apologist. So i guess he made history in more ways than one this season.

One of my fav players, so maybe its a good thing. In 10 years all we'll remember is that the things that helped give Cle the series were just the things that make him great. Thats Steph, "it didnt work, but it *could* have". Must be nice.

At least we learned that the data showing Greens importance to the Warriors wasnt flawed. Gained even more respect for him as a player. Easy co-mvp of the team. Their synergy is something to behold, but okc will be right there if not better if they pick up a decent two guard. Its not going to get any easier for gs to come out of the west in upcoming years.

[bondom34]

I think NaturalThunder said it back a page or so, but it really was the shots he hit all year not falling. Part of me wonders if it was a cold streak and part thinks it was unsustainable. It seemed to waver in the OKC series but came back just in time for the game 6/7 wins. This series it never did and he just looked outmatched, I didn't see him play that poorly overall all season. I'm most interested in Green's suspension and the momentum shift it caused (and honestly after the OKC series I'm glad that was a key as I can't stand Draymond). Ultimately its so weird they lost 9 all season and 9 in the playoffs, and to me its way more disappointing than the Patriots going 18-1. I remember that well as a Giants fan, and the Giants gave them a run in the last game of the regular season and I honestly felt alright going into the Super Bowl that they had a chance. I didn't think that with this team. What a weird and really disappointing end.

[Dr Positivity]

This is one of the few years I feel the better team lost the Finals. The loss of Bogut, Iguodala injury, Draymond suspension and Curry probably not 100% was enough for the Cavs to get the slight edge at the end of the day. Nevertheless the Warriors won a title with health luck so that's how it goes.

If we're going to say that, then we should say that the best team did not win in 2015 either, since the Cavs had much more significant handicaps than the Warriors did this year.

Even if we disregard the Green suspension game, which was his fault - the Cavs blew the Warriors out on two occasions and played the Warriors in a razor close game, they're the same tier if you ask me.

I don't think the margin was huge or anything, and the Warriors had flaws that weren't exposed as much in the regular season that made them a non GOAT contending team even if they had won. For a team who had such a historic offense, the lack of versatility to create baskets at the rim driving, on offensive rebounds or in the post when the 3s weren't falling, was a problem I think. Still, they had enough offensive firepower in Curry, Klay and Draymond alone combined with the defensive talent to get this done if they were a little healthier and Green played that game.

[Shot Clock]

Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

His game 7 was right up there with Tragic Johnson level of incompetent ball handling. Combined with a significant drop off in scoring which is what his rep is built on. Many players have seen their legacy damaged by disappearances like this so lets not act like this is 'reactionary and foolish' the judgement bar has been set years ago and he just failed to measure up in a big way.

[crazy_me_87]

Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

No its not.. We have to stop to measure Players in different ways!

Injuries or not.. he was healthy enough to play and had quite a few good Games once he came back.. No Excuses for him!

Especially in Game 7 he folded under the Pressure and his dumb Mistakes cost his Team the Title... his Legacy does deserve to be damaged for now.. until he Redeems himself.

He deserves to be roasted for his Mistakes. Thats how it is.. Curry isnt the Infailable Superhero... He has to learn you cant put flash over Substance in a Game 7(What was he thinking with that behind the back pass...) and that even if you are the best Shooter ever you cannot ONLY Rely on your 3pt Shot.

I think he will learn and be a better Player for it. But for Now.. He Screwed up.

[tsherkin]

Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

His game 7 was right up there with Tragic Johnson level of incompetent ball handling. Combined with a significant drop off in scoring which is what his rep is built on. Many players have seen their legacy damaged by disappearances like this so lets not act like this is 'reactionary and foolish' the judgement bar has been set years ago and he just failed to measure up in a big way.

I think there are a couple of things going into this. He took a nosedive in efficacy below the rim after the injury, and it's also clear that some of the borderline/illegal physical stuff the Thunder and the Cavs were getting away with affected him. That said, it didn't stop him from generally doing what he normally did from three (except in game 7, when he sucked), and he was still cutting and moving well. Like the Thunder, one of the smart things the Cavs did was to sell out hard to stop Curry by fully not switching on screens. It let Dray get hot in the first half, but that didn't last into the second half and it totally took Steph out of it. THere's only so much he can do with a pair of taller defenders on him as he tries to get to his spots, particularly since he doesn't have the size or speed to do anything to break that trap. He looked well enough in Game 4, of course, and the Cavs were hardly doing anything that the Warriors weren't as far as physical play. It's a weakness for Steph, and something that definitely happens in the playoffs. He's a smaller guy, and this is part of the problem. He doesn't have the length to extend over defenders or the explosion to leave them behind and take tiny gaps and what have you. Klay and Barnes STAAAAAAAANK in this one, and the defensive fall-off with injuries to Bogut and Iggy was a problem. I'd say they actually "contained" Lebron, since he didn't explode offensively, but he did have a good game overall. The bigger problem was that GSW shot what, 36% from the floor? And Steph was a part of that. He shot < 30% from 3, which was a big deal. When he's not clicking, he needs Klay to not look like used toilet paper. \

I don't want to excuse Steph. That was a bad game in the biggest moment of the series. I will hardly blame Cleveland for getting away with what the refs have been permitting all playoffs long, and not just for them. Golden State did it, Cleveland did it, OKC did it. Pretty much the only team not permitted to play physically in these playoffs were the Raptors, because the refs for whatever reason hate Jonas Valanciunas, but even HE got away with a thing or two. It's just the playoffs. The chippy fouls were some BS, though. For a couple of games now, the refs did pull some BS on Steph, and that was obvious. That Shumpert foul made me want to reach through the TV and kneecap the refs, but it wasn't a pivotal moment in the game and it didn't change how he played for the rest of the half, so it was more of a tone thing than a major difference-maker.



Rough game. Puts a damper on his season, because it was really the last two series in general. He really didn't stun in this postseason, despite a remarkable, ATG regular season. Tough ending, and I was pulling for the Warriors the whole way.

[Reservoirdawgs]

His game 7 was right up there with Tragic Johnson level of incompetent ball handling. Combined with a significant drop off in scoring which is what his rep is built on. Many players have seen their legacy damaged by disappearances like this so lets not act like this is 'reactionary and foolish' the judgement bar has been set years ago and he just failed to measure up in a big way.

The game was tied with less than one minute to go until Irving hits a well defended three. If he misses that shot and the Warriors end up winning then the narrative has completely flipped - all of the people who are praising Lebron for beating the GOAT team are now saying how he lost in another Finals game, and that even in a game where Curry couldn't hit the ocean he still gutted out a win and cemented the 2015-16 Warriors as the GOAT team. That's ridiculous - we're saying that what transpired in one minute is now legacy defining instead of the 3,313 other minutes he played during the 2015-16 season where he was a unanimous MVP, captain of one of the greatest teams ever, and nearly won the title. Curry could have had his same series and same Game 7 performance (which was poor) but no one would be talking about his "tainted" legacy if a few things bounce differently in the final minutes. This is the type of reactionary statements that Stephen A. Smith or Skip Bayless make when they want to get a reaction and have people talk about them. It's absurd, short-sighted, and intellectually dishonest to make statements like this.

[Frosty]

Going from a regular season
34.2 MPG 30.1p/5.4r/6.7a/2.1s .504 FG% .669 TS%
to a Finals
35.1 MPG 22.6p/4.9r/3.7a/.9s .403 FG% .580 TS%

Just a dramatic drop off in every category. I mean we've seen superstars struggle with scoring and they pick it up with passing or rebounding but he fell off a cliff in a huge way. I really can't remember such a decline. (I'm sure there was something similar but I looked up Karl's 1997 Finals and it wasn't as bad and he was playing with an injury that we know of, not one we speculate on).

Basically we've heard all season how he wouldn't be stopped by older rules that allowed more grabbing and contact and how iso ball was as extinct as the dinosaurs, the three point shot was king and basketball has changed forever. And then we see a team beat Curry's regular season juggernaut with exactly those methods.

[Frosty]

His game 7 was right up there with Tragic Johnson level of incompetent ball handling. Combined with a significant drop off in scoring which is what his rep is built on. Many players have seen their legacy damaged by disappearances like this so lets not act like this is 'reactionary and foolish' the judgement bar has been set years ago and he just failed to measure up in a big way.

The game was tied with less than one minute to go until Irving hits a well defended three. If he misses that shot and the Warriors end up winning then the narrative has completely flipped - all of the people who are praising Lebron for beating the GOAT team are now saying how he lost in another Finals game, and that even in a game where Curry couldn't hit the ocean he still gutted out a win and cemented the 2015-16 Warriors as the GOAT team. That's ridiculous - we're saying that what transpired in one minute is now legacy defining instead of the 3,313 other minutes he played during the 2015-16 season where he was a unanimous MVP, captain of one of the greatest teams ever, and nearly won the title. Curry could have had his same series and same Game 7 performance (which was poor) but no one would be talking about his "tainted" legacy if a few things bounce differently in the final minutes. This is the type of reactionary statements that Stephen A. Smith or Skip Bayless make when they want to get a reaction and have people talk about them. It's absurd, short-sighted, and intellectually dishonest to make statements like this.

No, GS winning wouldn't have changed the reality around Steph's failures outside of the regular crowd that attribute winning as an overriding factor is player evaluation regardless of the actual performance of the individual (I'm sure many would have attributed their success to his 'gravity'). If they won it would be the second year he didn't get a Finals MVP and people would still be raising eyebrows over Curry's inability to step up or even maintain his normal standards under the brightest lights. Winning does hide a lot of ugliness though.

[Reservoirdawgs]

Going from a regular season
34.2 MPG 30.1p/5.4r/6.7a/2.1s .504 FG% .669 TS%
to a Finals
35.1 MPG 22.6p/4.9r/3.7a/.9s .403 FG% .580 TS%

Just a dramatic drop off in every category. I mean we've seen superstars struggle with scoring and they pick it up with passing or rebounding but he fell off a cliff in a huge way. I really can't remember such a decline. (I'm sure there was something similar but I looked up Karl's 1997 Finals and it wasn't as bad and he was playing with an injury that we know of, not one we speculate on).

Again, let's put things in perspective - we're talking about someone who just had a .580 TS% and 54.4 eFG% in the Finals where the entire defensive gameplan in the first half of the series was to only stop him as some kind of indictment on Curry, his game, and now his legacy. For more perspective, his .580 TS% (which is apparently horrible) equals Kobe's career high in TS% for a season. He had a very poor Game 7, no doubts about it. This ends up being a complete non-factor if one or two things go differently in the final minute of Game 7 and the Warriors complete their 73-win season with a back-to-back championship. It wasn't a great series for him, but two bad games (and one awful one) where the Cavs focused their defense on stopping him shouldn't change anyone's opinions on him when he has showed these past two seasons that he is one of the best players in the NBA (if not THE best).

[Shot Clock]

Sigh...this is what I was afraid of. We're talking about the first-time unanimous MVP in NBA history, the leader of a 73 win team, and someone who was a few bounces from winning back-to-back titles as someone who has "damaged his legacy". Was it a good series for him? No. But to say that he has damaged his legacy is completely reactionary and foolish.

His game 7 was right up there with Tragic Johnson level of incompetent ball handling. Combined with a significant drop off in scoring which is what his rep is built on. Many players have seen their legacy damaged by disappearances like this so lets not act like this is 'reactionary and foolish' the judgement bar has been set years ago and he just failed to measure up in a big way.

I think there are a couple of things going into this. He took a nosedive in efficacy below the rim after the injury, and it's also clear that some of the borderline/illegal physical stuff the Thunder and the Cavs were getting away with affected him. That said, it didn't stop him from generally doing what he normally did from three (except in game 7, when he sucked), and he was still cutting and moving well. Like the Thunder, one of the smart things the Cavs did was to sell out hard to stop Curry by fully not switching on screens. It let Dray get hot in the first half, but that didn't last into the second half and it totally took Steph out of it. THere's only so much he can do with a pair of taller defenders on him as he tries to get to his spots, particularly since he doesn't have the size or speed to do anything to break that trap. He looked well enough in Game 4, of course, and the Cavs were hardly doing anything that the Warriors weren't as far as physical play. It's a weakness for Steph, and something that definitely happens in the playoffs. He's a smaller guy, and this is part of the problem. He doesn't have the length to extend over defenders or the explosion to leave them behind and take tiny gaps and what have you. Klay and Barnes STAAAAAAAANK in this one, and the defensive fall-off with injuries to Bogut and Iggy was a problem. I'd say they actually "contained" Lebron, since he didn't explode offensively, but he did have a good game overall. The bigger problem was that GSW shot what, 36% from the floor? And Steph was a part of that. He shot < 30% from 3, which was a big deal. When he's not clicking, he needs Klay to not look like used toilet paper. \

I don't want to excuse Steph. That was a bad game in the biggest moment of the series. I will hardly blame Cleveland for getting away with what the refs have been permitting all playoffs long, and not just for them. Golden State did it, Cleveland did it, OKC did it. Pretty much the only team not permitted to play physically in these playoffs were the Raptors, because the refs for whatever reason hate Jonas Valanciunas, but even HE got away with a thing or two. It's just the playoffs. The chippy fouls were some BS, though. For a couple of games now, the refs did pull some BS on Steph, and that was obvious. That Shumpert foul made me want to reach through the TV and kneecap the refs, but it wasn't a pivotal moment in the game and it didn't change how he played for the rest of the half, so it was more of a tone thing than a major difference-maker.



Rough game. Puts a damper on his season, because it was really the last two series in general. He really didn't stun in this postseason, despite a remarkable, ATG regular season. Tough ending, and I was pulling for the Warriors the whole way.

I agree with pretty much everything here. My issue is that for some reason people go out of their way to explain why he dropped dramatically in performance. Yet other guys who's stats drop off even less than this get roasted and labelled because of it with no consideration for injuries or teammate performance. This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything.

Magic got labelled with poor performances but dug himself out later in his career. I think Curry's career will be defined on how he recovers. But in the meantime he's put the spotlight on himself.

[Frosty]

Going from a regular season
34.2 MPG 30.1p/5.4r/6.7a/2.1s .504 FG% .669 TS%
to a Finals
35.1 MPG 22.6p/4.9r/3.7a/.9s .403 FG% .580 TS%

Just a dramatic drop off in every category. I mean we've seen superstars struggle with scoring and they pick it up with passing or rebounding but he fell off a cliff in a huge way. I really can't remember such a decline. (I'm sure there was something similar but I looked up Karl's 1997 Finals and it wasn't as bad and he was playing with an injury that we know of, not one we speculate on).

Again, let's put things in perspective - we're talking about someone who just had a .580 TS% and 54.4 eFG% in the Finals where the entire defensive gameplan in the first half of the series was to only stop him as some kind of indictment on Curry, his game, and now his legacy. For more perspective, his .580 TS% (which is apparently horrible) equals Kobe's career high in TS% for a season. He had a very poor Game 7, no doubts about it. This ends up being a complete non-factor if one or two things go differently in the final minute of Game 7 and the Warriors complete their 73-win season with a back-to-back championship. It wasn't a great series for him, but two bad games (and one awful one) where the Cavs focused their defense on stopping him shouldn't change anyone's opinions on him when he has showed these past two seasons that he is one of the best players in the NBA (if not THE best).

I'm sorry, I'm not a member of the TS% church. (Every missed shot is a chance at giving the ball to the opposing team and when teams are beating you on the boards missing 6 out of every 10 shots can hurt you) And even if I was, comparing the king of TS% efficiency to Kobe, who was never an efficiency beast, is kind of a stretch. Especially considering that Curry's efficiency was coming on a huge drop-off in volume scoring. I never said his TS% was horrible, but it was almost 10% worse than his regular season numbers. Those declines get guys like Bird and Malone slammed.

What about his passing? His rebounding? His defense? He collapsed in pretty much every way.

Every all time great has had a defense focus on them. Why is that suddenly a big deal? A good portion of the time Cleveland were guarding Curry with their center. If he can't exploit that, it's on him.

[Reservoirdawgs]

This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything..

In last year's Finals, Curry had a .591 TS% with a 55 eFG%. This year, he had a .580 TS% and a 54 eFG%. Those are peak Kobe numbers. Yet, these are being used as an indictment on Curry as being "exposed"? I don't buy it. Sure, they're not as high as his regular season stats but almost every player sees a dip in their playoffs numbers since they are going against better teams that can properly gameplan for them, and because the sample size gets substantially lower.

I'm not going to defend Curry for his poor Game 7 performance, but he did not have an awful series as people are trying to say. The first half of the series saw the Cavs allow wide open looks to other players because they never wanted Curry to have an open look. We saw a lot of this in Game 7 as well, which is what led to Barnes and Green having so many wide open 3's. We have thousands of minutes of data that shows that Curry is as impactful as he is made out to be...over-reacting on one bad game does not favors for anyone. This narrative goes no where if Green doesn't get himself suspended or if Klay and Barnes hit some open shots instead of clanking them one by one.

[AceofSpades69]

This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything..

In last year's Finals, Curry had a .591 TS% with a 55 eFG%. This year, he had a .580 TS% and a 54 eFG%. Those are peak Kobe numbers. Yet, these are being used as an indictment on Curry as being "exposed"? I don't buy it. Sure, they're not as high as his regular season stats but almost every player sees a dip in their playoffs numbers since they are going against better teams that can properly gameplan for them, and because the sample size gets substantially lower.

I'm not going to defend Curry for his poor Game 7 performance, but he did not have an awful series as people are trying to say. The first half of the series saw the Cavs allow wide open looks to other players because they never wanted Curry to have an open look. We saw a lot of this in Game 7 as well, which is what led to Barnes and Green having so many wide open 3's. We have thousands of minutes of data that shows that Curry is as impactful as he is made out to be...over-reacting on one bad game does not favors for anyone. This narrative goes no where if Green doesn't get himself suspended or if Klay and Barnes hit some open shots instead of clanking them one by one.

Yes he did have an awful Series and an awful Postseason. If he wants to have the epitome of a superstar when he goes nuts shooting 3's, he has to be judged as such when he underperforms aswell. He was literally zero in 95% of these playoffs and his 3pt inflated TS% don't tell the whole story. Karl Malone looks a Playoff God in comparison to Curry and it must hurt for people who Jordanified Curry all season long to see him fail this hard in the Playoffs but let's be real here. He failed, he disappointed, he underperformed, he brutally dropped-off, and he was often a "minus" when his team needed him to be a "plus". He was like the 5th best player in these Finals, and that says much of an MVP.

[Bergmaniac]

This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything..

In last year's Finals, Curry had a .591 TS% with a 55 eFG%. This year, he had a .580 TS% and a 54 eFG%. Those are peak Kobe numbers. Yet, these are being used as an indictment on Curry as being "exposed"? I don't buy it. Sure, they're not as high as his regular season stats but almost every player sees a dip in their playoffs numbers since they are going against better teams that can properly gameplan for them, and because the sample size gets substantially lower.

His scoring was pretty good overall, problem is he was absolutely terrible as a playmaker (much worse than last year where his passing out of double teams and traps was the key to the Warriors' offense) and pretty bad on D. He ended up with more turnovers than assists. And he got in foul trouble time and time again with pretty silly fouls.

[gothehornets]

i have a problem more with his assist, turnovers and inside game.

[mischievous]

This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything..

In last year's Finals, Curry had a .591 TS% with a 55 eFG%. This year, he had a .580 TS% and a 54 eFG%. Those are peak Kobe numbers. Yet, these are being used as an indictment on Curry as being "exposed"? I don't buy it. Sure, they're not as high as his regular season stats but almost every player sees a dip in their playoffs numbers since they are going against better teams that can properly gameplan for them, and because the sample size gets substantially lower.

I'm not going to defend Curry for his poor Game 7 performance, but he did not have an awful series as people are trying to say. The first half of the series saw the Cavs allow wide open looks to other players because they never wanted Curry to have an open look. We saw a lot of this in Game 7 as well, which is what led to Barnes and Green having so many wide open 3's. We have thousands of minutes of data that shows that Curry is as impactful as he is made out to be...over-reacting on one bad game does not favors for anyone. This narrative goes no where if Green doesn't get himself suspended or if Klay and Barnes hit some open shots instead of clanking them one by one.

You're looking way too much at ts% if you think Curry played at a peak Kobe level in the finals.

[Shot Clock]

This is the second Finals where he has shown that he's no where near the impact guy that people make him out to be. I could excuse his scoring if he was finding open players but he was throwing passes where no one was even close. All his stats dropped, he didn't make up for his scoring dropoff with anything..

In last year's Finals, Curry had a .591 TS% with a 55 eFG%. This year, he had a .580 TS% and a 54 eFG%. Those are peak Kobe numbers. Yet, these are being used as an indictment on Curry as being "exposed"? I don't buy it. Sure, they're not as high as his regular season stats but almost every player sees a dip in their playoffs numbers since they are going against better teams that can properly gameplan for them, and because the sample size gets substantially lower.

I'm not going to defend Curry for his poor Game 7 performance, but he did not have an awful series as people are trying to say. The first half of the series saw the Cavs allow wide open looks to other players because they never wanted Curry to have an open look. We saw a lot of this in Game 7 as well, which is what led to Barnes and Green having so many wide open 3's. We have thousands of minutes of data that shows that Curry is as impactful as he is made out to be...over-reacting on one bad game does not favors for anyone. This narrative goes no where if Green doesn't get himself suspended or if Klay and Barnes hit some open shots instead of clanking them one by one.

He's the g'damn first unanimous MVP the league has seen. He's made his rep popping 3's. Everyone is going to gameplan against that. If they can do that so easily something is wrong. I mean I saw people arguing that the 1996 Bulls couldn't accomplish this and Cleveland doesn't have near the quality of defender to toss at him.

You cling to your data and TS% but Curry has had no where near the impact that other all time greats have had all over the court. If people want to judge him against the best he doesn't measure up. His numbers in the Finals were closer to 34 year old Reggie Miller.

Curry - 22.6p/4.9r/3.7a/0.9s .580 ts%
Miller - 24.2p/2.7r/3.7a/0.8s .588 ts% (all numbers are up or minor declines over RS)