The Russell Westbrook Thread (2014/15)

[lilojmayo]

Freak of Nature

[SideshowBob]

Players who have averaged, per36 minutes, at least 23 pts, 6 reb, and 7 ast for a season (min 1500 min.)

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per 36   yr     Pts   Reb   Ast   Ast%
Oscar   1965   24.0   7.1   9.1   37.8
Oscar   1966   24.5   6.0   8.7   34.5
Magic   1987   23.7   6.2  12.1   47.2
Jordan  1989   29.1   7.2   7.2   34.7
LeBron  2010   27.4   6.7   7.9   41.8
Westbr. 2015   29.3   7.6   8.9   48.1
 

Ast% is thrown in for standardization's sake. It seems 9 assists today is roughly equivalent to 12 ast in Magic's heyday.
Given that, Westbrook tops these guys in all 3 stats.

Spoiler:

Players who have averaged 23 Pts/36, while shooting .600 TS% and getting 7 Ast/36 :

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per 36   yr     Pts    TS%    Ast   Ast%
Magic   1987   23.7   .602   12.1   47.2
Jordan  1989   29.1   .614    7.2   34.7
LeBron  2010   27.4   .604    8.4   41.8
Curry   2014   23.7   .610    8.4   39.9
Curry   2015   25.9   .628    8.5   38.5


Pretty good company, and to be here twice ...

Averaging 25-5-6, shooting .600 --

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per 36    yr     Pts   Reb    Ast   TS%
Jordan   1989   29.1   7.2   7.2   .614
LeBron   2010   27.4   6.7   7.9   .604
LeBron   2013   25.5   7.6   6.9   .640
LeBron   2014   25.9   6.6   6.1   .649
Harden   2015   26.4   5.7   6.9   .608

Only Jordan with all 4 marks better in one season.
Missing due to TS% qualification -- Bird with .585 TS%, Oscar .583, Wade .577, West .559, Westbrook .536 (this year).

With 23 Pts/36 on .590 TS%, plus Blk% > 5.0

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per 36    yr     Pts   Reb%   Blk%   TS%
Ewing    1988   23.4   15.2   6.0   .594
Ewing    1990   26.7   15.7   5.9   .599
D Rob    1990   23.9   18.5   6.5   .597
D Rob    1991   24.4   19.0   6.2   .615
D Rob    1995   26.2   16.2   5.9   .602
A Davis  2015   24.6   16.5   6.0   .602


Without the TS% cutoff: Shaq .583, Parish .579, Olajuwon .577. These are from 1974 to present.

http://bkref.com/tiny/nQ0XJ

via APBRmetrics

[bondom34]

Players who have averaged, per36 minutes, at least 23 pts, 6 reb, and 7 ast for a season (min 1500 min.)

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per 36   yr     Pts   Reb   Ast   Ast%
Oscar   1965   24.0   7.1   9.1   37.8
Oscar   1966   24.5   6.0   8.7   34.5
Magic   1987   23.7   6.2  12.1   47.2
Jordan  1989   29.1   7.2   7.2   34.7
LeBron  2010   27.4   6.7   7.9   41.8
Westbr. 2015   29.3   7.6   8.9   48.1
 

Ast% is thrown in for standardization's sake. It seems 9 assists today is roughly equivalent to 12 ast in Magic's heyday.
Given that, Westbrook tops these guys in all 3 stats.

Spoiler:

Players who have averaged 23 Pts/36, while shooting .600 TS% and getting 7 Ast/36 :

Code: Select all

per 36   yr     Pts    TS%    Ast   Ast%
Magic   1987   23.7   .602   12.1   47.2
Jordan  1989   29.1   .614    7.2   34.7
LeBron  2010   27.4   .604    8.4   41.8
Curry   2014   23.7   .610    8.4   39.9
Curry   2015   25.9   .628    8.5   38.5


Pretty good company, and to be here twice ...

Averaging 25-5-6, shooting .600 --

Code: Select all

per 36    yr     Pts   Reb    Ast   TS%
Jordan   1989   29.1   7.2   7.2   .614
LeBron   2010   27.4   6.7   7.9   .604
LeBron   2013   25.5   7.6   6.9   .640
LeBron   2014   25.9   6.6   6.1   .649
Harden   2015   26.4   5.7   6.9   .608

Only Jordan with all 4 marks better in one season.
Missing due to TS% qualification -- Bird with .585 TS%, Oscar .583, Wade .577, West .559, Westbrook .536 (this year).

With 23 Pts/36 on .590 TS%, plus Blk% > 5.0

Code: Select all

per 36    yr     Pts   Reb%   Blk%   TS%
Ewing    1988   23.4   15.2   6.0   .594
Ewing    1990   26.7   15.7   5.9   .599
D Rob    1990   23.9   18.5   6.5   .597
D Rob    1991   24.4   19.0   6.2   .615
D Rob    1995   26.2   16.2   5.9   .602
A Davis  2015   24.6   16.5   6.0   .602


Without the TS% cutoff: Shaq .583, Parish .579, Olajuwon .577. These are from 1974 to present.

http://bkref.com/tiny/nQ0XJ

via APBRmetrics

Thanks, missed this!

I assume it was the trivia thread, the numbers on DJ's free throws are mind blowing .

[NinjaSheppard]

OKC's starting lineup today

Westbrook + 2 wings that shoot below 30 percent from three and Kanter/Adams

I have no idea what Brooks is trying to accomplish with this team.

[GSP]

Brad Stevens is so much better than Brooks this is hilarious. We have one of the best defensive backcourts in the league and Brooks is just making it tougher for Russ

[spearsy23]

OKC's starting lineup today

Westbrook + 2 wings that shoot below 30 percent from three and Kanter/Adams

I have no idea what Brooks is trying to accomplish with this team.

Defense

[ardee]

The issue is Durant and WB love Brooks so much it's going to be real hard to fire him.

If he doesn't lose his job after this year it's never going to happen.

You can see the contrast with GSW. They cut ties when they saw he wasn't good enough, and look where the team is now.

[spearsy23]

The issue is Durant and WB love Brooks so much it's going to be real hard to fire him.

If he doesn't lose his job after this year it's never going to happen.

You can see the contrast with GSW. They cut ties when they saw he wasn't good enough, and look where the team is now.

Where the Thunder have been for the last 4 years? Your example of why they should cut ties is a team doing something they've already done?

[bondom34]

The issue is Durant and WB love Brooks so much it's going to be real hard to fire him.

If he doesn't lose his job after this year it's never going to happen.

You can see the contrast with GSW. They cut ties when they saw he wasn't good enough, and look where the team is now.

Yeah, they're not firing Brooks and finding an upgrade, unless Dallas decides to fire Carlisle. Brooks is fine.

[bondom34]

Has noone not an OKC fan seen Roberson? The kid is fantastic defensively, there's zero reason for him not to start given the roster. Waiters is almost there by default, hell Singler was starting at SF for a while, he yanked him.

[spearsy23]

It seems to me even some OKC 'fans' haven't seen Roberson. Anyone paying attention should be able to recognize just how good this kid is. If he ever adds that corner three he'll have a very long career starting on great teams.

[GSP]

He is a great defender, could be Thabo 2.0 but on offense he is one of the worst perimeter players out there. Teams ignore him like they did Perk and Thabo (before he developed a consistent 3 and even then he wasnt getting much attention).

[spearsy23]

He is a great defender, could be Thabo 2.0 but on offense he is one of the worst perimeter players out there. Teams ignore him like they did Perk and Thabo (before he developed a consistent 3 and even then he wasnt getting much attention).

Despite the lack of box score statistics both RAPM and on/off show him as a slight positive offensively. He cuts , finishes and passes well. Offensively he is nothing like Thabo who couldn't handle the ball or even pass on fast-breaks. Teams that completely ignore him often find they've allowed an easy layup.

[bondom34]

He is a great defender, could be Thabo 2.0 but on offense he is one of the worst perimeter players out there. Teams ignore him like they did Perk and Thabo (before he developed a consistent 3 and even then he wasnt getting much attention).

He's better than last year's Thabo for sure. He's much more active, his shot has been better since January, and he's great at cutting/slashing.

[GSP]

U guys are right about the cutting i have noticed that and remember him making alot of the finishes too. Not sure i can say i remember anything noteworthy about his passing.

[spearsy23]

U guys are right about the cutting i have noticed that and remember him making alot of the finishes too. Not sure i can say i remember anything noteworthy about his passing.

Roberson isn't anything noteworthy as a creator but Thabo was a really bad passer in general, him leading the break was almost an assured turnover. Robes makes smart decisions and keeps the ball moving, plus he can initiate a set without the defense just jumping all over his handle. He is a good passer in the framework of being a guy who doesn't stop the ball basically ever and doesn't make silly mistakes, but definitely not good in the sense we usually think of.

[bondom34]

Well, Kanter got hurt, but KD may return.

[spearsy23]

Every time... One step forward, two steps back.

[RSCD3_]

So if kanter and Ibaka are out for next game than who's power forward?

Collison or do they try Durant at the 4? his injury might complicate it but ive always thought durant could be killer on offense as a 4

[bondom34]

So if kanter and Ibaka are out for next game than who's power forward?

Collison or do they try Durant at the 4? his injury might complicate it but ive always thought durant could be killer on offense as a 4

Prob start McGary, don't know if KD is back or not.