The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7)

[Joey Wheeler]

I didn't think AD was that great tonight, but he still finished with 27 points. Incredible talent

On 16 shots, 68% TS. With incredible defense. Simply one of the most talented players we've ever seen.

[TheGOATRises007]

lebron in the playoffs over the past decade is totally nuts

2011: nba finals
2012: nba finals
2013: nba finals
2014: nba finals
2015: nba finals
2016: nba finals
2017: nba finals
2018: nba finals
2019: injured; team missed playoffs
2020: nba finals

Still saddens me we never got a Bron v Kobe Finals despite one of them being there every year from '07 till the end of Kobe's career.

Are you that saddened though if you're a Lebron fan?

The Lakers likely beat the Cavs every time. No matter how Lebron would have played, it would have looked bad on his legacy for most detractors.

[TheGOATRises007]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

[Baski]

You know what? I'm finally done doubting this guy. Dumbest thing I did this year.
Next season if he has a dud 4th quarter and I come in here bitching like a worried parent somebody please please tell me to shut the hell up and wait for the POs.

What the hell is this guy made of?


This is how I picture Lebron haters right now:

[mademan]

lebron in the playoffs over the past decade is totally nuts

2011: nba finals
2012: nba finals
2013: nba finals
2014: nba finals
2015: nba finals
2016: nba finals
2017: nba finals
2018: nba finals
2019: injured; team missed playoffs
2020: nba finals

Still saddens me we never got a Bron v Kobe Finals despite one of them being there every year from '07 till the end of Kobe's career.

Are you that saddened though if you're a Lebron fan?

The Lakers likely beat the Cavs every time. No matter how Lebron would have played, it would have looked bad on his legacy for most detractors.

Ya, after seeing what Dwight did to that Cavs FC, Gasol/Bynum/Odom wouldve destroyed them.

[dreamshake]

lebron in the playoffs over the past decade is totally nuts

2011: nba finals
2012: nba finals
2013: nba finals
2014: nba finals
2015: nba finals
2016: nba finals
2017: nba finals
2018: nba finals
2019: injured; team missed playoffs
2020: nba finals

Still saddens me we never got a Bron v Kobe Finals despite one of them being there every year from '07 till the end of Kobe's career.

Are you that saddened though if you're a Lebron fan?

The Lakers likely beat the Cavs every time. No matter how Lebron would have played, it would have looked bad on his legacy for most detractors.

You may be right - I realize its all about matchups but LeBron pushed the Celtics just as far as the Lakers did in '08. Even if the Lakers won though, I just would have loved to see them compete in the playoffs.

[GSP]

Still saddens me we never got a Bron v Kobe Finals despite one of them being there every year from '07 till the end of Kobe's career.

Are you that saddened though if you're a Lebron fan?

The Lakers likely beat the Cavs every time. No matter how Lebron would have played, it would have looked bad on his legacy for most detractors.

You may be right - I realize its all about matchups but LeBron pushed the Celtics just as far as the Lakers did in '08. Even if the Lakers won though, I just would have loved to see them compete in the playoffs.

We beat La in 6 in 08. Cavs took us 7. So did the Hawks..........lol. So glad Doc isnt coaching this team anymore

[dreamshake]

Are you that saddened though if you're a Lebron fan?

The Lakers likely beat the Cavs every time. No matter how Lebron would have played, it would have looked bad on his legacy for most detractors.

You may be right - I realize its all about matchups but LeBron pushed the Celtics just as far as the Lakers did in '08. Even if the Lakers won though, I just would have loved to see them compete in the playoffs.

We beat La in 6 in 08. Cavs took us 7. So did the Hawks..........lol. So glad Doc isnt coaching this team anymore

Oh yeah thats right . . . I forgot that finals only went 6. It was '10 that went 7. Also as to Eddy_JukeZ's point about Cavs not being able to beat the Lakers, 2011 & 2012 were chances too. There were plenty of years both ways.

[TheGOATRises007]

You may be right - I realize its all about matchups but LeBron pushed the Celtics just as far as the Lakers did in '08. Even if the Lakers won though, I just would have loved to see them compete in the playoffs.

We beat La in 6 in 08. Cavs took us 7. So did the Hawks..........lol. So glad Doc isnt coaching this team anymore

Oh yeah thats right . . . I forgot that finals only went 6. It was '10 that went 7. Also as to Eddy_JukeZ's point about Cavs not being able to beat the Lakers, 2011 & 2012 were chances too. There were plenty of years both ways.

2011 was certainly possible. I predicted a Heat-Lakers before that season with the Heat winning it. Even prior to the playoffs, I thought that would be the finals match-up.

But 2012? The Lakers were nowhere near being a contender that season. The Lakers had a SRS of 1.96. Kobe had a much worse season than 2011. OKC dispatched them with ease in the 2nd round. Heat would have swept them.

[Doctor MJ]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

I'd break it down a bit further.

LeBron got smart about impact at a younger age.

Jordan had the more dominant run at his best.

LeBron's body and brain just make him age better than Jordan.

[TheGOATRises007]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

I'd break it down a bit further.

LeBron got smart about impact at a younger age.

Jordan had the more dominant run at his best.

LeBron's body and brain just make him age better than Jordan.

Fair points. What do you mean about the bolded line though?

I do think Lebron's body is certainly more of a physical specimen than Jordan despite Jordan's incredible athleticism himself.

If you were to design a NBA player in a lab, it'd probably look like Lebron.

The impact of college ball on Jordan and playing under Dean Smith also can't be understated.

[Dupp]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

2017 and 18 Lebrons scoring really took another level imo. Probably a lot to do with getting the chip for Cleveland and having that weight lifted off his shoulder.

This year his passing and point guard play has taken another level.


Impressive for someone been around so long.

[Doctor MJ]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

I'd break it down a bit further.

LeBron got smart about impact at a younger age.

Jordan had the more dominant run at his best.

LeBron's body and brain just make him age better than Jordan.

Fair points. What do you mean about the bolded line though?

I do think Lebron's body is certainly more of a physical specimen than Jordan despite Jordan's incredible athleticism himself.

If you were to design a NBA player in a lab, it'd probably look like Lebron.

The impact of college ball on Jordan and playing under Dean Smith also can't be understated.

When LeBron was 24 he was leading a lifting a <20 win supporting cast to >60 wins. Literally Jordan likely never had impact like this in his entire career.

[Statlanta]

When LeBron was 24 he was leading a lifting a <20 win supporting cast to >60 wins. Literally Jordan likely never had impact like this in his entire career.

In the weak Eastern Confernece

[homecourtloss]

When LeBron was 24 he was leading a lifting a <20 win supporting cast to >60 wins. Literally Jordan likely never had impact like this in his entire career.

In the weak Eastern Confernece

[Blackmill]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

I'd break it down a bit further.

LeBron got smart about impact at a younger age.

Jordan had the more dominant run at his best.

LeBron's body and brain just make him age better than Jordan.

Tangential, but do you subscribe to 1991 being the better run than 1992 or vice versa? I see a lot of people side with 1991 but I'm more impressed by 1992.

[Statlanta]

When LeBron was 24 he was leading a lifting a <20 win supporting cast to >60 wins. Literally Jordan likely never had impact like this in his entire career.

In the weak Eastern Confernece

Your team is proof that it was weak. Needing 3 Western Conference All-D players to sniff the Finals and the most reverent player in the franchise was a Houston Rocket.

The player(s) that the team drafted internally: Derozan and Valanciunas are laughing stocks of the franchise

[TheGOATRises007]

'Old man' Lebron is better than 'Old man' Jordan for me.

But I think younger Jordan is better than younger Lebron.

Don't think I would have subscribed to that notion prior to 2017.

I'd break it down a bit further.

LeBron got smart about impact at a younger age.

Jordan had the more dominant run at his best.

LeBron's body and brain just make him age better than Jordan.

Tangential, but do you subscribe to 1991 being the better run than 1992 or vice versa? I see a lot of people side with 1991 but I'm more impressed by 1992.

I don't see the argument for 1992 over 1991.

Why are you more impressed?

[dcstanley]

Man I would love to be proven wrong, but I really think people in here are underestimating the Heat. I think they'll be tougher than any of the first 3 rounds. They're just so much more imposing defensively than Portland/Houston/Denver IMO. And Spo has a hell of a jumpstart gameplanning for a LeBron team. Like I said, hope I'm wrong . . . but I expect it to be a dogfight.

I think Denver is going to prove to be a tougher matchup. Miami's defense is a tad concerning but their offense is not as potent as Denver.'s Defending Bam and Butler pick and rolls is going to feel like a cake walk compared to Jokic and Murray.

[Dupp]

In the weak Eastern Confernece

Your team is proof that it was weak. Needing 3 Western Conference All-D players to sniff the Finals and the most reverent player in the franchise was a Houston Rocket.

The player(s) that the team drafted internally: Derozan and Valanciunas are laughing stocks of the franchise