Blatche v. Beasley

[penbeast0]

If you were Washington, would you rather keep Blatche with his terrific production or take a chance on Michael Beasley's not yet consistent talent? If you were Miami and were building a contender around resigning Wade, would you swap the two?

[Joel Embust]

I think Beasley's talent would translate to more wins than Blatche's.

[WadeKnicks2010]

Definitely Blatche. Better defender and rebounder, and can play inside rather than just chuck up soft jumpers all game like Beasley.

[WesWesley]

I would like to see what Beasley can do on a lottery team where he is one of the main options.

[Sid the Squid]

lol at thinking Beasley's lack of rebounding has anything to do with the team he plays for.

[WadeKnicks2010]

lol at thinking Beasley's lack of rebounding has anything to do with the team he plays for.

lol... not to mention there isn't a single team in the league where Beasley would be the main option. and lol @ the only defense for Beasley being that he'd be a half decent player if he were allowed to chuck on a lottery team. You can say that for about half the players in the league.

[WesWesley]

lol at thinking Beasley's lack of rebounding has anything to do with the team he plays for.

lol... not to mention there isn't a single team in the league where Beasley would be the main option. and lol @ the only defense for Beasley being that he'd be a half decent player if he were allowed to chuck on a lottery team. You can say that for about half the players in the league.

yah, but you can't say that many players have the same upside as Beasley.

It's true though that when Blatche was playing with established players like Jamison, Arenas and Butler, he at times struggled to get minutes.

Playing alongside one of the best players/scorers in the league who demands the ball in a lot is tougher on a young player who doesn't have the freedom to do what he may on a lotto team.

[Soca]

Blatche. Much better passer and rebounder. He's also has way more refined low post moves than Beasley.

[Jase]

I'm not yet sold on the idea that Beasley is a bust, or that his ceiling isn't as high as people thought when he came out of college. On a new team with less expectations, he has a good chance to be a better player.

[yungal07]

Please...this is not even a comparison. Blatche is the better scorer, rebounder, shotblocker, passer, ballhandler, and defender. I don't think Beasley is better than Blatche at anything. Even in the maturity department.

[NO-KG-AI]

It's so funny how people talk about guys that had years to develop, who they would have written off as early as last year, and throw all these wild claims out.

[mysticbb]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2010

Not quite sure why Blatche is considered the "much" better rebounder or scorer. Looks rather similar to me.
Well, Blatche right now beats out Beasley in every advanced metric, but I think Beasley has more talent and can develop into the better player in the long run. It is a tough decision, but I would probably go with Blatche at this point (might be considered a mistake in two or three years).

[Tim_Hardawayy]

It's so funny how people talk about guys that had years to develop, who they would have written off as early as last year, and throw all these wild claims out.

Pretty much. I have no problem with someone taking Blatche, but the hypocrisy of writing off Beasley already is pretty hilarious.

Also, there is NO way I'd swap Beasley for Blatche, for a couple of simple reasons. First, Blatche is going to get paid, soon. Why swap cheap labor for an expensive player when 2010 is already going to cost you a ton of money?

Second, Blatche plays the same position as Beasley, and the same position as the players most likely to come to Miami (Bosh, Amare). With Beasley, you keep him and hope he can either be a super 6th man, transition to small forward, or be a trade piece for something that fits at point guard or center. With Blatche, you're getting a guy who doesn't fit that you HAVE to make a decision on, since he is about to get paid and more or less mostly developed already.

It just makes absolutely no sense. If Beasley were to be dealt, its for a piece that fits at point guard or center. I don't think there is anything on the Wizards roster that Miami would be interested in.

[sp6r=underrated]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=blatcan01&y1=2010&p2=beaslmi01&y2=2010

Not quite sure why Blatche is considered the "much" better rebounder or scorer. Looks rather similar to me.
Well, Blatche right now beats out Beasley in every advanced metric, but I think Beasley has more talent and can develop into the better player in the long run. It is a tough decision, but I would probably go with Blatche at this point (might be considered a mistake in two or three years).

I think it is because of Blatche post-all star break numbers. 22.2, 8.0, 3.3, .522 (Ts). I would still probably take Beasley though. He's awful young to give up on all that potential he showed at KS.

[oaktownwarriors87]

yah, but you can't say that many players have the same upside as Beasley.

Beasley has great athleticism and good touch, but his personality and size really limits his potential. He can change his attitude and approach to the game, but that's not something that you can count on. Beasley is a fine player, he'd be a great F of the bench on any contending team.

Some people like to act as if playing with Wade has limited Beasley since he's entered the NBA, but he's probably in a better position to succeed on the Heat than he would be on any other team in the NBA.

I would probably take Blatche, I was a big fan of his when he was drafted, but it is closer than some people think.

[mysticbb]

I think it is because of Blatche post-all star break numbers. 22.2, 8.0, 3.3, .522 (Ts).

Well, he is getting more touches (going from 13 fga per 36 to 18.3 fga per 36), which explains the difference in scoring (his efficiency is the same). And overall he gets more minutes, which explains the rebounds (his per36 rebounds actually went down from 8.2 to 7.9). Beasley with the same amount of touches would most likely score a similar amount of points, and with more minutes he would also get more rebounds.

I guess people just tend to overrate younger players on bad teams.

[kasino]

I'll take Beasley Blatche isn't a winner at heart at least Beasley seems unfamilar with playing bad

[sp6r=underrated]

I can't imagine what realgm would have been like during:

Nash's early career
Dirk's rookie campaign
Kobe's rookie year

[nate33]

I think it is because of Blatche post-all star break numbers. 22.2, 8.0, 3.3, .522 (Ts).

Well, he is getting more touches (going from 13 fga per 36 to 18.3 fga per 36), which explains the difference in scoring (his efficiency is the same). And overall he gets more minutes, which explains the rebounds (his per36 rebounds actually went down from 8.2 to 7.9). Beasley with the same amount of touches would most likely score a similar amount of points, and with more minutes he would also get more rebounds.

I guess people just tend to overrate younger players on bad teams.

Let's not overlook the fact that Beasley plays alongside one of the best 5 players in the league and is a secondary or tertiary consideration for the defense. Give Beasley more touches and take away Wade, and I find it extremely hard to believe that his efficiency wouldn't drop.

Blatche is the first and practically only threat on the Wizards to score. Blatche is also a much better defender.

[nate33]

Also, there is NO way I'd swap Beasley for Blatche, for a couple of simple reasons. First, Blatche is going to get paid, soon. Why swap cheap labor for an expensive player when 2010 is already going to cost you a ton of money?

Blatche's contract lasts until 2012. He will be paid an average of $3.35M over those two years.
Beasley's contract lasts until 2012. He will be paid an average of $5.6M over those two years.