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Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:22 pm
by mikhailjordan
Discuss. I personally feel Prime Marbury > Prime Iverson (will expand upon this later).

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:38 pm
by GoLakers2011
This is just disrespectful to the Answer. Allen Iverson is clearly better and it's not close. AI was argurably the best player in the league in his prime Philly days. Marbury was good, but hella overrated. He couldn't even dream of taking that **** Philly team to the Finals in 2001.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:51 pm
by AgEnT50
This is a slap in the face to the Answer

NOT EVEN close

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:11 am
by nashchill
Lay off the blueberry nightmare, Allen Iverson by miles.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:26 am
by Nolan
Iverson and its not even close.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:32 am
by nashchill
Allen's accolades.

# NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
# All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
# All Rookie First Team (1997)
# NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
# 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
# 3x All-NBA First Team Selection
# 3x All-NBA Second Team Selection
# 8x NBA All-Star

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:41 am
by NYK 455
nashchill wrote:Allen's accolades.

# NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
# All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
# All Rookie First Team (1997)
# NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
# 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
# 3x All-NBA First Team Selection
# 3x All-NBA Second Team Selection
# 8x NBA All-Star


AI is one of the most overrated players ever imo. He didn't deserve most of them. AI was the better scorer, but if I had a good offensive cast, I'd take Marbury. If I had a bunch of guys who can't score for anything, I'd take AI.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:44 am
by nashchill
NYK 455 wrote:
nashchill wrote:Allen's accolades.

# NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
# All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
# All Rookie First Team (1997)
# NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
# 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
# 3x All-NBA First Team Selection
# 3x All-NBA Second Team Selection
# 8x NBA All-Star


AI is one of the most overrated players ever imo. He didn't deserve most of them. AI was the better scorer, but if I had a good offensive cast, I'd take Marbury. If I had a bunch of guys who can't score for anything, I'd take AI.


How's he overrated?

In his era, he brought a decent team to the finals in an era of tough playoff match ups, he's face Bibby/Webber kings ( I think) KB24/Shaq (Prime) and has face other great teams too, if anything I'd say Marbury is overrated - I loved him in Phoenix but he's mentally (Please Use More Appropriate Word), he's cancer in a locker room.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:49 am
by NYK 455
Steph was a cancer in NY, but AI would be in that same position. He just isn't effective in a team concept. Believe it or not, Step was a better on court teammate and playmaker than AI was.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:53 am
by nashchill
Sure, but A.I scored much better and had killer crossovers that would lead to open buckets. Plus..

Philly.

Allen Iverson | Dikembe Mutombo | Aaron McKie | Eric Snow | Tyrone Hill | George Lynch | Matt Geiger | Rodney Buford | Jumaine Jones | Todd MacCulloch | Kevin Ollie | Roshown McLeod | Raja Bell | Anthony Miller

L.A.

Shaquille O'Neal | Kobe Bryant | Derek Fisher | Rick Fox | Horace Grant | Isaiah Rider | Ron Harper | Brian Shaw | Robert Horry | Stanislav Medvedenko | Tyronn Lue | Devean George | Greg Foster | Mark Madsen |

And he led that team to the NBA finals, c'mon now.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:11 am
by NYK 455
He deserves credit for what he did that year, but that team played in a crap East and made it that far largely due to it's defense.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:14 am
by nashchill
True that, you said Marbury is a better passer? He is, but A.I as an SG in 01-02 = 5.5 APG, as the leading scorer that's good.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:19 am
by NYK 455
nashchill wrote:True that, you said Marbury is a better passer? He is, but A.I as an SG in 01-02 = 5.5 APG, as the leading scorer that's good.


It's not just passing, he shoots way too much and is not nearly efficient enough to work in any offense unless the whole offense is Allen Iverson isos all game. Shooting something like 23- 28 shots in a game and having a TS% of about 49% to 51% isn't gonna cut it.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:20 am
by Bucksfans1and2
nashchill wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:
nashchill wrote:Allen's accolades.

# NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
# All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
# All Rookie First Team (1997)
# NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
# 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
# 3x All-NBA First Team Selection
# 3x All-NBA Second Team Selection
# 8x NBA All-Star


AI is one of the most overrated players ever imo. He didn't deserve most of them. AI was the better scorer, but if I had a good offensive cast, I'd take Marbury. If I had a bunch of guys who can't score for anything, I'd take AI.


How's he overrated?

In his era, he brought a decent team to the finals in an era of tough playoff match ups, he's face Bibby/Webber kings ( I think) KB24/Shaq (Prime) and has face other great teams too, if anything I'd say Marbury is overrated - I loved him in Phoenix but he's mentally (Please Use More Appropriate Word), he's cancer in a locker room.


I really disagree with the lead to a finals. There's no question he did, but he had to be gifted a series against the Bucks, from the league to do it. That series was worse than King Lakers a year later.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:21 am
by nashchill
Not that bad but yes I agree.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:24 am
by NYK 455
Honestly, I can't even believe some people considered AI the best player in the NBA at some point....

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:28 am
by Bucksfans1and2
NYK 455 wrote:Honestly, I can't even believe some people considered AI the best player in the NBA at some point....


Seriously, on the other hand Marbaury never came close.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:30 am
by NYK 455
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:Honestly, I can't even believe some people considered AI the best player in the NBA at some point....


Seriously, on the other hand Marbaury never came close.


Neither one of them were anywhere close.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:33 am
by nashchill
NYK 455 wrote:
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:Honestly, I can't even believe some people considered AI the best player in the NBA at some point....


Seriously, on the other hand Marbaury never came close.


Neither one of them were anywhere close.

Allen was much closer though, I guess you could have it.. Shaq/Kobe/?/A.I.

Re: Prime Marbury vs. Prime Iverson

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:36 am
by Bucksfans1and2
nashchill wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:Seriously, on the other hand Marbaury never came close.


Neither one of them were anywhere close.

Allen was much closer though, I guess you could have it.. Shaq/Kobe/?/A.I.


Garnett Duncan. AI was at best 5th.