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players who played for the best offenses and defenses ever

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:10 pm
by bastillon
offense

unsurprinsingly for me Nash tops the list, but this should be a shocker for a lot of people. pace is included as a factor as the result is presented as points per possession. this correlates well with the fact that Nash has been the most impactful offensive player in 2004-2009 according to APM.

I know for a fact that Nash is one of the most controversial players on this board. there are his defenders and there are guys who attack him a lot, but hardly in-betweens. thoughts ?

defense

again, unsurprisingly for me, Bill Russell and his teammates top the list. should be useful for RPOY discussion. Duncan-based defense is 2nd biggest defensive dynasty of all-time. is he an underrated defender all-time ? Garnett edges him easily on the same APM 2004-2009 on defense, but Duncan regressed a lot on defense after 2007 and his defensive prime was probably early 00s. where does he rank among all-time defensive anchors ?

Re: players who played for the best offenses and defenses ever

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:16 pm
by Quincy
Nash is controversial? I mean, some will dispute his MVP's, lack of winning a ring, and lack of defensive but he is no doubt one of the top offensive players of the era. Probably the "best on the best team".

Bill Russell is definately the GOAT defensive player but I'm not sure if his teams were the best. How about the late 80's Pistons sqauds. Dennis Rodman? Scottie Pippen?

Re: players who played for the best offenses and defenses ever

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:33 pm
by bastillon
best offensive and defensive team of all-time, RS and playoffs included:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6205

(first table)