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Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:01 pm
by asero
who is the better player?

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:04 pm
by alex85
iverson. now someone move this thread.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:07 pm
by dookieguy
I think I take Iverson NOW.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:16 pm
by Stretch82
iverson, but rose will become a better player overall

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:57 pm
by klemen4
Man this Rose threads never end...never :banghead:

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 1:59 pm
by panthermark
Uggg...

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:00 pm
by boogie-reke
AI.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:09 pm
by Darain
Lets take the actually point guard Iverson

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:22 pm
by DumbyTheWizard
Darain wrote:Lets take the actually point guard Iverson


Green font?

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:29 pm
by Hangtime84
Iverson was fearless!

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:49 pm
by mysticbb
Per 36 minutes values:

Rose: 23.4/4.2/7.8 with 53.3 ts% and 10.3 To-R
Iverson: 26.7/3.3/3.9 with 51.8 ts% and 8.8 To-R

Rose is the better defender and it seems like also the better offensive player (3.3 points less, but 3.9 assists more), Rose also rebounds better than Iverson.

Rose is the better player today than Iverson in 2001.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 3:07 pm
by BoomFizzle
mysticbb wrote:Per 36 minutes values:

Rose: 23.4/4.2/7.8 with 53.3 ts% and 10.3 To-R
Iverson: 26.7/3.3/3.9 with 51.8 ts% and 8.8 To-R

Rose is the better defender and it seems like also the better offensive player (3.3 points less, but 3.9 assists more), Rose also rebounds better than Iverson.

Rose is the better player today than Iverson in 2001.


Why would you automatically assume Rose is the better defender? From what I have seen he is very poor on defense. At least Iverson led the league in steals that year.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 3:17 pm
by Jvaughn
BoomFizzle wrote:
mysticbb wrote:Per 36 minutes values:

Rose: 23.4/4.2/7.8 with 53.3 ts% and 10.3 To-R
Iverson: 26.7/3.3/3.9 with 51.8 ts% and 8.8 To-R

Rose is the better defender and it seems like also the better offensive player (3.3 points less, but 3.9 assists more), Rose also rebounds better than Iverson.

Rose is the better player today than Iverson in 2001.


Why would you automatically assume Rose is the better defender? From what I have seen he is very poor on defense. At least Iverson led the league in steals that year.


Rose is not a very poor defender. That's an old scouting report. And gambling in the passing lanes doesn't make you a good defender. Iverson was actually a pretty bad defender that played the passing lanes well.

Still I'd take that Iverson over today's Rose by a slight margin.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 3:33 pm
by mysticbb
BoomFizzle wrote:Why would you automatically assume Rose is the better defender? From what I have seen he is very poor on defense. At least Iverson led the league in steals that year.


When did you see Rose the last time? In his rookie season?

Watch the last game of the Bulls@Jazz, maybe you will understand that Rose is the better defender than Iverson ever was.

Iverson's amount of steals were caused by him to gamble a lot. That's actually not per se good defense and in Iverson's case it never was. The 2001 76ers were able to compensate for Iverson's weak defense by having the DPOY and better perimeter defenders in Snow and McKie.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 3:41 pm
by big_ticket
you know the ANSWER to the question...

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 4:18 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
I'll take Iverson, he was restless and fearless. I have to see Rose at least get out the first round of the playoffs before I pick him over Iverson

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:03 pm
by LascelleL
big_ticket wrote:you know the ANSWER to the question...

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:14 pm
by jmbflame21
Iverson led the league in scoring got the Sixers to the NBA finals...

Rose.... not so much, yet at least.

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:30 pm
by J08
the only time iverson gets praise on realgm.. when hes compared to rose.

i would take A.I as well tho.

can someone tell me the what the hate for rose is?

Re: Today's Derrick Rose vs. MVP Season of Iverson?

Posted: Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:43 pm
by TDotRep
Lol jose calderon lit rose a couple times this season, which I find really funny. I think in 2 games he has 35 assists.