RealGM

This is the Magic Johnson thread for the Wins Added by Season Survey Project. viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1241811 Please read the project guidelines before posting in the thread.

For those who have already read the guidelines, just copy and paste the years below and fill in your answers.

Magic Johnson
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1996

Magic Johnson
1980 - +5.0 WS (46.0)
1981 - +3.0 WS (44.0)
1982 - +9.0 WS (50.0)
1983 - +9.0 WS (50.0)
1984 - +8.0 WS (49.0)
1985 - +12.0 WS (53.0)
1986 - +12.0 WS (53.0)
1987 - +19.0 WS (60.0)
1988 - +15.0 WS (56.0)
1989 - +18.0 WS (59.0)
1990 - +18.0 WS (59.0)
1991 - +18.0 WS (59.0)
1996 - +3.0 WS (44.0)

Lakers Team Trends

SRS -- ORtg -- PS ORtg

1979 3.0 2.3 4.2
----------------------------
1980 5.4 4.2 6.2
1981 3.3 2.3 -2.8
1982 4.4 3.3 7.4
1983 5.1 5.8 3.9
1984 3.3 3.1 7.5
1985 6.5 6.2 9.8
1986 6.8 6.1 6.4
1987 8.3 7.3 10.5
1988 4.8 5.0 7.8
1989 6.4 6.0 9.0
1990 6.7 5.9 7.7
1991 6.7 4.2 5.6
----------------------------
1992 -1.0 -0.5 -3.4

1996 4.2 3.7 -6.0

Magic-related In/Out (WOWY)

What happened to Kareem...?

Anyway

Magic Johnson
1980: +6.0
1981: +4.5
1982: +7.0
1983: +7.0
1984: +7.5
1985: +7.5
1986: +7.5
1987: +8.5
1988: +7.5
1989: +8.0
1990: +8.0
1991: +8.0
1996: +4.5

'82-'84 get criminally underrated.

Kareem next...dont want two old-timers in a row.

1980 +4.0
1981 +4.5
1982 +5.0
1983 +5.5
1984 +6.5
1985 +7.0
1986 +7.0
1987 +7.5
1988 +7.0
1989 +7.0
1990 +7.5
1991 +7.0
1996 +4.5

1980: +3.5
1981: +4.5
1982: +5.0
1983: +5.0
1984: +5.5
1985: +6.5
1986: +6.5
1987: +8.0
1988: +7.0
1989: +7.5
1990: +7.5
1991: +7.0
1996: +3.5

1980: +3.5
1981: +4.0
1982: +5.0
1983: +5.5
1984: +5.0
1985: +6.0
1986: +7.0
1987: +8.0
1988: +7.0
1989: +7.0
1990: +7.5
1991: +7.0
1996: +2.5

1980 +3.0
1981 +3.5
1982 +5.5
1983 +5.5
1984 +6.5
1985 +6.5
1986 +6.5
1987 +7.0
1988 +6.5
1989 +6.5
1990 +6.5
1991 +6.5
1996 +2.5

1980- +4.5
1981- +5.0
1982- +5.0
1983- +5.0
1984- +5.0
1985- +5.5
1986- +5.5
1987- +7.0
1988- +5.0
1989- +7.0
1990- +7.0
1991- +6.5
1996- +4.0

ElGee wrote:Magic-related In/Out (WOWY)

Magic's impact before 1988 doesn't look "top 10 all time level" like.

DavidStern wrote:

ElGee wrote:Magic-related In/Out (WOWY)

Magic's impact before 1988 doesn't look "top 10 all time level" like.

My overall impression of Magic aside, he wasn't even an all-nba 1st teamer until 1983, so I'd consider 1981 pre-prime (he was 21 years old). 1984 isn't an impressive change, but it isn't unimpressive either. Then you've got the heart of his career where the 86 team does well and the 88 team falls apart. Of course, I'd similarly note that the 92 team fell apart without Magic...

In SRS:

1980 +2.5
1981 +2.5
1982 +2.5
1983 +3.5
1984 +3.5
1985 +4.0
1986 +4.5
1987 +5.0
1988 +5.0
1989 +5.0
1990 +5.0
1991 +5.0
1996 +1.5

EDIT: Updated 11/13/13

1980 +3.0
1981 +4.0
1982 +5.0
1983 +5.5
1984 +6.0
1985 +6.0
1986 +6.5
1987 +7.5
1988 +7.0
1989 +7.5
1990 +7.5
1991 +7.0
1992 +4.0