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Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 12:30 pm
by Dipper 13
What stands out to me the most is Russell's defensive rebounding. He looked especially dominant there in the 1964 game. Also Oscar Robertson is completely indefensible in a pick & roll situation (87.5%), especially compared to the others (18.2%) in this sample. The same goes for Wilt finishing at the rim (85.7%), compared to the others (25.4%).

For those who prefer the linear pace adjusted statistics (which I don't), this is what Russell averaged in the footage, adjusting for 2012-13 pace (92.0).

11.7 pts, 19.5 rbs, 3.8 ast, 5.5 blk, 2.3 tov, 1.0 stl, 59.5% FG, 57% FT, 60.5% TS


At Rim: 21/28 FG (75.0%)
In Paint (Overall): 24/36 (66.6%)
Mid-Range: 1/6 FG (16.6%)

Shot Charts:

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List Of Games:

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1962 Finals Gm. 7 Lakers vs. Celtics (Incomplete)
1963 Finals Gm. 6 Celtics vs Lakers
1964 Finals Gm. 4 Celtics vs. Warriors (2nd Half)
1965 Finals Gm. 1 Lakers vs. Celtics (Incomplete)
1966 Playoffs Gm. 4 Celtics vs. Royals (2nd Half)
1966 Playoffs Gm. 5 Royals vs. Celtics (Incomplete)
1966 Finals Gm. 7 Lakers vs. Celtics (Incomplete)
1967 Playoffs Gm. 4 Sixers vs. Celtics (2nd Half)
1969 Finals Gm. 7 Celtics vs Lakers (4th Quarter)




Various Statistics:

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Fouls Drawn
With Ball: 11
Loose Ball & Off. Foul: 4
Shots Created: (Passes leading to clean shots & fouls, including direct half-court passes, outlet passes, and hockey assists) *Not all assists are necessarily counted as shots created, and vice versa.
Total Fouls Called: 2
Outside Paint - 29
In Paint - 12 (At Rim) - 8
Turnovers: 12
Half Court Touches: 126
Team Possessions: 486 (This figure is the same for offense & defense)
Blocks: 29
Assists: 20
TO's Forced: 16
Steals: 5
FT: 12/21
Total Rebounds: 103
Off: 17
Def: 86

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*The P&R figures for Big O includes Wayne Embry who was 2/2 FG on assists from Oscar, with him drawing Russell out of position. Also nobody outside of Wilt would even attempt a low post shot against Russell. Very seldom did they even post him up at all.

Pick & Roll: 9/19 FG (47.4%)
-Oscar:
7/8 FG (87.5%)

Isolation: 4/7 FG (57.1%)

Low Post: 9/16 FG (56.3%) Fouls: 4
-Wilt: 9/16 FG (56.3%) Fouls: 4

Help Defense/Rim Protector: 14/62 FG (22.6%) Fouls: 5


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*Team FG stats do not include his man's stats

FG allowed from opposing TEAM (HALFCOURT)

At Rim: 15/59 FG (25.4%)
In Paint (Overall): 33/108 FG (30.5%)
Midrange: 69/193 FG (35.8%)


FG allowed from opposing TEAM (TRANSITION)

At Rim: 30/38 FG (78.9%)
In Paint (Overall): 31/43 FG (72.1%)
Midrange: 10/15 FG (66.6%)


FG allowed from opposing MAN (HALFCOURT)

At Rim: 19/26 FG (73.1%) *Includes putbacks on offensive boards
-Wilt: 12/14 FG (85.7%)

In Paint (Overall): 22/31 FG (71.0%)
-Wilt: 12/16 FG (75.0%)

Midrange: 10/21 FG (47.6%) *Includes baseline shots near basket area
-Wilt: 1/4 FG (25.0%)


FG allowed from opposing MAN (TRANSITION)

At Rim: 0/1 FG (0.0%)
In Paint (Overall): 0/1 FG (0.0%)
Midrange: 0/0 FG

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:23 pm
by lorak
Dipper 13 wrote:
For those who prefer the linear pace adjusted statistics (which I don't), this is what Russell averaged in the footage, adjusting for 2012-13 pace (92.0).

11.7 pts, 19.5 rbs, 3.8 ast, 5.5 blk, 2.3 tov, 1.0 stl, 59.5% FG, 57% FT, 60.5% TS



Seems right, but RBS and BLK would be lower today. Rebounds because there's less misses overall and blocks because game is more perimeter oriented now.

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:10 pm
by colts18
What percent of shots did he rebound and block?


What were your impressions of Russell's D on Wilt?

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 5:17 pm
by penbeast0
DavidStern wrote:
Dipper 13 wrote:
For those who prefer the linear pace adjusted statistics (which I don't), this is what Russell averaged in the footage, adjusting for 2012-13 pace (92.0).

11.7 pts, 19.5 rbs, 3.8 ast, 5.5 blk, 2.3 tov, 1.0 stl, 59.5% FG, 57% FT, 60.5% TS



Seems right, but RBS and BLK would be lower today. Rebounds because there's less misses overall and blocks because game is more perimeter oriented now.


True, and of course AST and TS% would be higher today and TO lower because offenses are more sophisticated, the lane more open, and assists are calculated differently. (Though that TS% is a lot higher than B-R.com's numbers would indicate so that would of course cut the other way.)

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 5:37 pm
by Dipper 13
colts18 wrote:What percent of shots did he rebound and block?

All the FGA are accounted for here, so he blocked 7% of all shots taken. Rebounding would be a bit misleading though since he obviously rebounded some missed FT's, which I didn't keep track of.

colts18 wrote:What were your impressions of Russell's D on Wilt?


In the '64 game he got a lot of help, players like KC Jones were sagging back to try and prevent the entry pass. The same with their full court pressing defense, which distorted the Warriors offense. They did everything they could to prevent him from getting the ball in the low post. Russell did a great job sweeping the defensive boards, though Wilt got him a couple times, including this one. Against most other players, this is a clean block.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2Ncll2K64&t=5m57s


In the '67 game it was mostly 1 on 1, since he was in the passing mode that year. Look at this play between him & Chet Walker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjBDUhbBcs&t=8m57s


Also his fronting strategy didn't seem to be very successful, since they could lob it up and no other Celtics player would have a chance vs. Wilt in the paint. In the 3rd video, KC Jones again comes to help Russell. Even during Game 1 of the 1965 Finals when Wilt was a guest commentator, he said he was most happy when KC was on the bench since he gave him a lot of trouble. Also that they were killed on defense by trying to help on Sam Jones, which lead to a shot for the open man (Havlicek, Siegfried). Offensively they always tried to get Russell into early foul trouble to open the floor up for all of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjBDUhbBcs&t=4m42s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wEzEHPZi3w&t=4m4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNw0c19DhIU&t=16m57s


He also cleanly blocked one of his dunk attempts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHXG3koetzA&t=2m6s


In the '69 game Wilt only went at him once in the low post, trying to foul Russell out who had 5. Russell just let him score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu5vMfPtbw&t=3m31s

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 5:43 pm
by colts18
Dipper 13 wrote:
colts18 wrote:What percent of shots did he rebound and block?

All the FGA are accounted for here, so he blocked 7% of all shots taken. Rebounding would be a bit misleading though since he obviously rebounded some missed FT's, which I didn't keep track of.

7% would be good for 3rd all-time in Blk% right about even with Mark Eaton

http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... areer.html

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Sun Jun 2, 2013 5:44 pm
by Dipper 13
colts18 wrote:
Dipper 13 wrote:
colts18 wrote:What percent of shots did he rebound and block?

All the FGA are accounted for here, so he blocked 7% of all shots taken. Rebounding would be a bit misleading though since he obviously rebounded some missed FT's, which I didn't keep track of.

7% would be good for 3rd all-time in Blk% right about even with Mark Eaton

http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... areer.html



Defensively Russell rebounded 36% of the opponents missed shots, not including FT's.

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2013 1:34 am
by penbeast0
Oh, and THANK YOU for the terrific work; great fun to see.

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2013 3:23 am
by GreenHat
penbeast0 wrote:
DavidStern wrote:
Dipper 13 wrote:
For those who prefer the linear pace adjusted statistics (which I don't), this is what Russell averaged in the footage, adjusting for 2012-13 pace (92.0).

11.7 pts, 19.5 rbs, 3.8 ast, 5.5 blk, 2.3 tov, 1.0 stl, 59.5% FG, 57% FT, 60.5% TS



Seems right, but RBS and BLK would be lower today. Rebounds because there's less misses overall and blocks because game is more perimeter oriented now.


True, and of course AST and TS% would be higher today and TO lower because offenses are more sophisticated, the lane more open, and assists are calculated differently. (Though that TS% is a lot higher than B-R.com's numbers would indicate so that would of course cut the other way.)


Just because offenses are more sophisticated today doesn't mean every player would improve in AST and TS% and lower their TO. Regardless sophisticated offenses would cut more into his defensive impact than improve his offensive impact. You can block a wild 6 ft pull up jumper much more easily than you can a corner three.

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2013 4:55 pm
by penbeast0
I do agree with that, just wanted to clarify that if you are going to point out statistical differences that many of them, particularly pace adjusted AST, are higher today than in Russell's day. People often only talk about the opposite effects.

For that matter, if Russell is playing with a stretch 4 instead of Bailey Howell or Tom Sanders (Heinsohn probably was a stretch 4 for his day), his reb% might go up as his 4 would be further from the basket instead of in the low to mid post like Howell. No certainties either way but strong statistical trends.

Re: Bill Russell Shot Chart + Various Stats

Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2013 7:52 pm
by Ryoga Hibiki
How good of a finisher he was? Maybe he would not be a go to guy, but most likely he could achieve some very efficient 15-16 a game, now.

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