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This is easy for any player who only ever played for one team, i.e., the Lakers get 100% of Magic Johnson's "greatness shares", so to speak. It's possible to quantify this, I suppose, on a spreadsheet or via sorting on b-ref. But this is a bit more of an intuitive-logic thing than just dividing up a player's career win shares and black/grey ink by team. Which franchise gets credited with what percentage of Garnett's greatness, Barkley's greatness, Nash's, LeBron's, Wilt's, Tiny's, et. al. Even his Airness, the Bulls would get, like, 98.5% of his greatness, the Bullets/Wizards get another 1%, and...0.5% goes to the Birmingham Barons. It may not be zero-sum, though? Or, is it necessarily zero-sum?

Some of my estimations:

Michael Jordan - 95% Bulls, 5% Wizards
Bill Russell - 100% Celtics
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 64% Lakers, 36% Bucks
Magic Johnson - 100% Lakers
Wilt Chamberlain - 45% Warriors, 35% Sixers, 20% Lakers
Larry Bird - 100% Celtics
Shaquille O'Neal - 26% Magic, 42% Lakers, 22% Heat, 7% Suns, 2% Cavaliers, 1% Celtics.
Tim Duncan - 100% Spurs
Hakeem Olajuwon - 99% Rockets, 1% Raptors
Kobe Bryant - 100% Lakers
LeBron James - 57% Cavaliers, 43% Heat
Julius Erving - 58% Sixers, 32% Nets, 10% Squires
Oscar Robertson - 80% Royals, 20% Bucks.
Jerry West - 100% Lakers, if we only take his playing career into account, and thus disregard his GM duties with the Grizzlies.
Karl Malone - 98% Jazz, 2% Lakers.
Moses Malone - 1.5% Stars, 0.5 Spirits, 36% Rockets, 32% Sixers, 12.5% Bullets, 13% Hawks, 4.5% Bucks
Kevin Garnett - 69% Timberwolves, 30% Celtics, 1% Nets
Dirk Nowitzki - 100% Mavericks
Charles Barkley - 50% Sixers, 35% Suns, 15% Rockets
Scottie Pippen - 88% Bulls, 10% Blazers, 2% Rockets
Steve Nash - 32% Mavericks, 66% Suns, 2% Lakers
Jason Kidd - 28% Mavericks, 39.5% Nets, 31% Suns, 1.5% Knicks

Quotatious wrote:Some of my estimations:

Michael Jordan - 95% Bulls, 5% Wizards
Bill Russell - 100% Celtics
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 64% Lakers, 36% Bucks
Magic Johnson - 100% Lakers
Wilt Chamberlain - 45% Warriors, 35% Sixers, 20% Lakers
Larry Bird - 100% Celtics
Shaquille O'Neal - 26% Magic, 42% Lakers, 22% Heat, 7% Suns, 2% Cavaliers, 1% Celtics.
Tim Duncan - 100% Spurs
Hakeem Olajuwon - 99% Rockets, 1% Raptors
Kobe Bryant - 100% Lakers
LeBron James - 57% Cavaliers, 43% Heat
Julius Erving - 58% Sixers, 32% Nets, 10% Squires
Oscar Robertson - 80% Royals, 20% Bucks.
Jerry West - 100% Lakers, if we only take his playing career into account, and thus disregard his GM duties with the Grizzlies.
Karl Malone - 98% Jazz, 2% Lakers.
Moses Malone - 1.5% Stars, 0.5 Spirits, 36% Rockets, 32% Sixers, 12.5% Bullets, 13% Hawks, 4.5% Bucks
Kevin Garnett - 69% Timberwolves, 30% Celtics, 1% Nets
Dirk Nowitzki - 100% Mavericks
Charles Barkley - 50% Sixers, 35% Suns, 15% Rockets
Scottie Pippen - 88% Bulls, 10% Blazers, 2% Rockets
Steve Nash - 32% Mavericks, 66% Suns, 2% Lakers
Jason Kidd - 28% Mavericks, 39.5% Nets, 31% Suns, 1.5% Knicks

I think you're basing this too much off of years played for one of these teams and not on impact. Even as a sixers fan, I think Barkley is more Suns than Sixers. Lebron is more Heat than Cavs too.

eliasrapp98 wrote:I think you're basing this too much off of years played for one of these teams and not on impact. Even as a sixers fan, I think Barkley is more Suns than Sixers. Lebron is more Heat than Cavs too.

I don't see how Barkley was any better as a Sun than as a Sixer. Statistically, he was more productive and impactful in Philadelphia. He just didn't have a really good team around him, like he had later in Phoenix.
LeBron spent twice as much time in Cleveland compared to Miami, and just like Barkley, he didn't have a great team around him, and he now has it in the South Beach. By all accounts, his 2009 and 2010 seasons were roughly on par with 2012 and 2013 (well, he's more efficient now, and has better post game, but his production was the same), so it's not only more years as a Cavalier, but, first and foremost, more QUALITY years as well. LeBron will be thought of as a Heat more than a Cavalier when his career is over tho.

Quotatious wrote:I don't see how Barkley was any better as a Sun than as a Sixer. Statistically, he was more productive and impactful in Philadelphia. He just didn't have a really good team around him, like he had later in Phoenix.
LeBron spent twice as much time in Cleveland compared to Miami, and just like Barkley, he didn't have a great team around him, and he now has it in the South Beach. By all accounts, his 2009 and 2010 seasons were roughly on par with 2012 and 2013 (well, he's more efficient now, and has better post game, but his production was the same), so it's not only more years as a Cavalier, but, first and foremost, more QUALITY years as well. LeBron will be thought of as a Heat more than a Cavalier when his career is over tho.

I don't disagree with any of what you said above. However, for better or worse, most of us do factor in accomplishments (titles, MVP's, etc) into the "greatness equation". So where those accomplishments occur should be taken into consideration, too (imo).