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Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:27 am**

Do you consider Detlef Schrempf a top 100 player?

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:54 am**

Probably not, but I never gave it much thought.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:00 am**

SactoKingsFan wrote:Do you consider Detlef Schrempf a top 100 player?

Answer: No

The 2011 RealGM Top 100 is below. Schrempf is not on it.

To be really certain, I'm also naming 15 other players better than Detlef Schrempf not on the 2011 RealGM Top 100 list.

2011 RealGM Top 100

Spoiler:

15 other players
1. Kevin Durant
2. Blake Griffin
3. Kevin Love
4. Stephen Curry
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Derrick Rose
7. James Harden
8. Chris Bosh
9. Tony Parker
10. LaMarcus Aldridge
11. Amar'e Stoudamire
12. Mitch Richmond
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Shawn Marion
15. Dennis Johnson

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:17 am**

15 years of Detlef > 5 years of Rose, WB, Curry, Love, Griffin, Harden...

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:03 pm**

If not, he's pretty close in my book. I think he was underrated in his day and his unique skill set was a great boon to each team he played for.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:15 pm**

He's probably not, but this guy could really really play. His 93 season is one of the truly underrated years a guy has had. Had a bunch of really good years for Seattle and Indiana.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:35 pm**

I've never made a personal list up to 100, so maybe I do consider him a top-100 player. But I would guess that no, I would not.

Still, really nice player to have. He'd be perfect as a stretch 4 today if you paired him with a bulky, dominant defensive big who rebounds the ball.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:00 pm**

ronnymac2 wrote:
Still, really nice player to have. He'd be perfect as a stretch 4 today if you paired him with a bulky, dominant defensive big who rebounds the ball.

Detlef really wasn't a stretch player tho. It wasn't really until his Seattle days that he even shot the 3 and it was never a defining part of his offensive game. The guy was much more of a slasher, penetrator than he was a pure jump shooter. Really good secondary playmaker too.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:06 pm**

Chuck Texas wrote:
ronnymac2 wrote:
Still, really nice player to have. He'd be perfect as a stretch 4 today if you paired him with a bulky, dominant defensive big who rebounds the ball.

Detlef really wasn't a stretch player tho. It wasn't really until his Seattle days that he even shot the 3 and it was never a defining part of his offensive game. The guy was much more of a slasher, penetrator than he was a pure jump shooter. Really good secondary playmaker too.

True, but once he shot it, he balled out. 50/50/80 season in 1995.

He had some crazy stat lines in his career. 1993 with 19/9/6...Larry Bird-lite.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:18 pm**

Top 100 or not, the guy was a very good player…

From 90-97:

~17 PPG, 7 RPG, 4 APG, 1 SPG

~51% FG, 39% 3PT, 81% FT, 60% TS

119/108 OFF/DEF RTG, .172 WS/48

One of my favorites to watch back then, too.

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:54 pm**

I'm pretty comfortable saying no.

He's easily a top 150 player, though, and arguably top 125 (imho).

Posted: **Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:59 pm**

Watch out for some of those 90s Seattle numbers from 3. There were a couple of years where they moved the 3 point line in and Seattle was the team I most remember taking massive advantage of it.

I liked Schrempf a lot; maybe the first great Euro. (Marciulonis was my favorite early Euro but he never got a big minute opportunity)

Posted: **Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:28 am**

Jim Naismith wrote:
2011 RealGM Top 100
1) Michael Jordan
2) Bill Russell
3) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4) Magic Johnson
5) Wilt Chamberlain
6) Larry Bird
7) Shaquille O'Neal
8) Tim Duncan
9) Hakeem Olajuwon
10) Kobe Bryant
11) Julius Erving
12) Karl Malone
13) Kevin Garnett
14) Oscar Robertson
15) Jerry West
16) Moses Malone
17) Dirk Nowitzki
18) LeBron James
19) Bob Pettit
20) Charles Barkley
21) David Robinson
22) Dwyane Wade
23) Walt Frazier
24) Steve Nash
25) Scottie Pippen
26) Elgin Baylor
27) Patrick Ewing
28) John Havlicek
29) Isiah Thomas
30) Rick Barry
31) John Stockton
32) Gary Payton
33) Clyde Drexler
34) Artis Gilmore
35) George Gervin
36) Jason Kidd
37) Tracy McGrady
38) Paul Pierce
39) Dwight Howard
40) Kevin McHale
41) Dominique Wilkins
42) Reggie Miller
43) Willis Reed
44) Bob Cousy
45) Dave Cowens
46) Allen Iverson
47) Bill Walton
48) Alonzo Mourning
49) Elvin Hayes
50) Chris Paul
51) Kevin Johnson
52) Bob McAdoo
53) Sidney Moncrief
54) Ray Allen
55) Bob Lanier
56) Alex English
57) Wes Unseld
58) Paul Arizin
59) Sam Jones
60) Manu Ginobili
61) Marques Johnson
62) Pau Gasol
63) Bernard King
64) Dennis Rodman
65) Penny Hardaway
66) Nate Thurmond
67) Robert Parish
68) Dolph Schayes
69) Grant Hill
70) Vince Carter
71) Dikembe Mutombo
72) Billy Cunningham
73) James Worthy
74) David Thompson
75) Nate Archibald
76) Chris Webber
77) Bobby Jones
78) Hal Greer
79) Mark Price
80) Connie Hawkins
81) Ben Wallace
82) Shawn Kemp
83) Chauncey Billups
84) Adrian Dantley
85) Deron Williams
86) Elton Brand
87) Bill Sharman
88) Jack Sikma
89) Mel Daniels
90) Larry Nance
91) Joe Dumars
92) Gus Williams
93) Carmelo Anthony
94) Tim Hardaway
95) Jerry Lucas
96) Chris Mullin
97) Dave DeBusschere
98) Brad Daugherty
99) Bob Dandridge
100) Bill Laimbeer

15 other players
1. Kevin Durant
2. Blake Griffin
3. Kevin Love
4. Stephen Curry
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Derrick Rose
7. James Harden
8. Chris Bosh
9. Tony Parker
10. LaMarcus Aldridge
11. Amar'e Stoudamire
12. Mitch Richmond
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Shawn Marion
15. Dennis Johnson

Who in their right mind thinks Elton freaking Brand is the 86th best player in NBA history. He is closer to being the 186th best player

Posted: **Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:40 pm**

That list is horrible!

Posted: **Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:42 pm**

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He was top 20 in Rapm for 97, top 30 in 99. Top 10 in 98. Offensively he might be top 10 of the 90s. Im looking at 2011 list and there are players from 74-on i dont think were better. Players like Penny who were great for only a short time

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