1988-89
http://i.imgur.com/Tx9Vw0X.jpg
1989-90
http://i.imgur.com/zUbZGVk.jpg
1990-91
http://i.imgur.com/YLxU5rT.jpg
1991-92
http://i.imgur.com/dQC67su.jpg
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On Off Net
1988 109.7 102.9 6.8
1989 115.3 104.7 10.6
1990 115.5 106.6 8.9
1991 112.4 100.5 11.9
1992 112.3 97.9 14.3
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On Off Net
1988 110.6 109.2 1.4
1989 111.4 111.8 -0.4
1990 108.5 107.9 0.6
1991 109.3 106.2 3.1
1992 112.0 103.7 8.3
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On Off Net
1988 -0.9 -6.3 5.4
1989 3.9 -7.1 11.0
1990 7.0 -1.3 8.3
1991 3.1 -5.7 8.8
1992 0.3 -5.7 6.0
Here is where those RAPM numbers would rank in 2014:
88: 33rd
89: 1st
90: 1st
91: 3rd
92: 5th
Dipper 13 wrote:Here is where those RAPM numbers would rank in 2014:
88: 33rd
89: 1st
90: 1st
91: 3rd
92: 5th
It's unfortunate how badly he dogged it defensively those last two years, I never understood how someone who worked so hard under the boards was so lazy defensively. Imagine what his offensive RAPM looks like.
Here is where those RAPM numbers would rank in 2014:
Dipper 13 wrote:Here is where those RAPM numbers would rank in 2014:
88: 33rd
89: 1st
90: 1st
91: 3rd
92: 5th
It's unfortunate how badly he dogged it defensively those last two years, I never understood how someone who worked so hard under the boards was so lazy defensively. Imagine what his offensive RAPM looks like.
RebelWithACause wrote:How does his netORTG stack up with other All-Time great offensive players?
Especially against the 4-5 best years of Dirk, Kobe, Nash, LeBron, Wade in particular?
Well defense is harder to play than offense and I think he got tired carrying the Sixers on offense and being only 6'6 makes it a lot harder when just about everyone you face is taller than you.....
Don't forget that Barkley and the Sixers incompetent management had had a falling out by that point and Barkley wanted out. And he had the perfect personality to consciously say well, you aren't giving me your best, I am not giving you mine.
The Infamous1 wrote:Peak/Prime Barkley was an absolute monster. In the 89-90 season there were serious conversations on whether Barkley was better than mike and magic.
lorak wrote:
Rest of your numbers is ok, but I think there is a mistake here. I've got ON ORTG 109.7, but OFF ORTG 105.5, and thus ORTG net +4.1 and overall net +2.7.
Even his 91 and 92 down years look better by plus/minus stats
Dipper 13 wrote:Even his 91 and 92 down years look better by plus/minus stats
I wouldn't call those down years, at least offensively. He was as good as ever on offense. They were certainly down years for the Sixers as a team, and it appears Barkley badly tanked his defensive effort those last two years. It would be interesting to see the RAPM data and how much of this was affected by the lineups, especially in 1991.
Also Maunte Bol with his 8'6 wingspan had a big defensive impact in 1991, at -14.0. Some may say he played limited minutes, but he was very effective at protecting the rim.
http://i.imgur.com/rWUKu3k.png
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Off Def Net
On 100.3 102.9 -2.5
Off 102.5 113.3 -10.8
Net -2.1 -10.4 8.3
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Off Def Net
On 105.7 107.4 -1.8
Off 101.9 113.0 -11.1
Net 3.8 -5.6 9.4
colts18 wrote:Wow. Do you have Bol's numbers for his other years in Philly? -14.0 on defense would be the highest on record so far. The best I've seen yet is Jason Collins -11.8 in 2005.