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There has been a lot of discussion on how bigs have more impact than wings on defense so I'm wondering since 2006 (when the rule changes took effect) for each year who were the best perimeter defenders at the wing positions SG/SF

Ideally they should also be starters and play over 30 minutes a game.

2006:
2007:
2008:
2009:
2010:
2011:
2012:
2013:
2014:
2015 ( so far ) :

2006: Ak47
2007: Ak47
2008: Battier or Mwp
2009: Mwp
2010: Crash
2011: Deng
2012: Tony
2013: Tony
2014: Tony (George if u really penalize Tony missing so much games)
2015 ( so far ) : Tony

2006: Kirilenko
2007: Kirilenko
2008: Battier
2009: MWP
2010: Wallace
2011: Deng
2012: Iguodala
2013: Allen
2014: Iguodala
2015: D. Green

Damn those Kobe, Rondo 1st team selections were such a travesty.

LeBron has a great case in 2009 and 2011 (he's right there with Artest in '09 and Deng in '11). It's amazing how good he was on defense considering how big of a burden he had to carry offensively (especially in '09).

Last two seasons Paul George should have major consideration

Quotatious wrote:LeBron has a great case in 2009 and 2011 (he's right there with Artest in '09 and Deng in '11). It's amazing how good he was on defense considering how big of a burden he had to carry offensively (especially in '09).

Certain people think tht lebrons defense vs Orlando in the ECF was sub standard, how did you feel about his defense in that series and the 2009 playoffs in a general, and of he defended better than the cavs could have won the title

RSCD3_ wrote:Certain people think tht lebrons defense vs Orlando in the ECF was sub standard, how did you feel about his defense in that series and the 2009 playoffs in a general, and of he defended better than the cavs could have won the title

He was the whole Cleveland's offense. I don't care too much if he slips a bit on defense when he's putting 38.5 ppg + 8.0 assists on 59 TS%. He couldn't do more. Cleveland was overmatched, they had no business winning 66 games to begin with.

Jaivl wrote:

RSCD3_ wrote:Certain people think tht lebrons defense vs Orlando in the ECF was sub standard, how did you feel about his defense in that series and the 2009 playoffs in a general, and of he defended better than the cavs could have won the title

He was the whole Cleveland's offense. I don't care too much if he slips a bit on defense when he's putting 38.5 ppg + 8.0 assists on 59 TS%. He couldn't do more. Cleveland was overmatched, they had no business winning 66 games to begin with.

Yeah I just don't know why it's brought up so much, it's like people say well I can't argue his offense so his defense must have been really weak and he was a liability out there. Which I think is kind of silly.

I was just wondering how his defense was that year because pre Miami I didn't see a lot of him.

He only plays 19mpg so maybe that rules him out but are we sleeping on where Thabo ranks defensively this year? His on/off defensively is killer (-6.2) and the Hawks don't have that many renowned defensive players for a top 5 D.

TRNBA12 wrote:He only plays 19mpg so maybe that rules him out but are we sleeping on where Thabo ranks defensively this year? His on/off defensively is killer (-6.2) and the Hawks don't have that many renowned defensive players for a top 5 D.

He should be high.

His +2.63 DRPM is the #7 best in the league for a wing player.

TRNBA12 wrote:He only plays 19mpg so maybe that rules him out but are we sleeping on where Thabo ranks defensively this year? His on/off defensively is killer (-6.2) and the Hawks don't have that many renowned defensive players for a top 5 D.

Didn't his defense take a sharp decline from 2012 to 2013

what happened because OKC fans were talked about how he had lost some athleticism but it looks like hes better according to your stats and what people are saying

2011-2012 Lebron or josh smith
their defense hasnt been the same since

Iguodala, Kawhi, motivated Bran.

jimmy butler or iggy 2013-2014

RSCD3_ wrote:Certain people think tht lebrons defense vs Orlando in the ECF was sub standard, how did you feel about his defense in that series and the 2009 playoffs in a general, and of he defended better than the cavs could have won the title

It's hard to evaluate LeBron's defense in that series because the Cavs moved him around and he guarded pretty much every Magic player with the exception of Howard. I did track the OT period of Game 4 and posted on this board a few years ago. He guarded Lewis in that period and Lewis only had 3 touches and no shot attempts. If anyone has video of that series, I would love to go over it and evaluate LeBron's defense.

RSCD3_ wrote:

Quotatious wrote:LeBron has a great case in 2009 and 2011 (he's right there with Artest in '09 and Deng in '11). It's amazing how good he was on defense considering how big of a burden he had to carry offensively (especially in '09).

Certain people think tht lebrons defense vs Orlando in the ECF was sub standard, how did you feel about his defense in that series and the 2009 playoffs in a general, and of he defended better than the cavs could have won the title

He wasn't even that good of a defender in 09, certainly not best perimeter defender in the league good.


Anyway as for that series his defense was fairly average. A lot of that was due to a bad defensive plan of hiding him on Alston with the hope of trying to help with dwight since we had no one to guard dwight. But Lebron had absolutely no impact at all on dwight.

I can't help but feel Miami Lebron would of flourished in that role considering how amazing his post season help defense was his time there.

Just a note, didn't the rule change come into effect starting in 04-05?

Anyhow, cool thread idea. I'm not sure how much confidence I have in my selections, but I'm thinking for the most part, this list should be occupied by Battier/Artest early on, followed by Deng/Iguodala/Allen (possibly still Allen), and perhaps Kawhi now.

Mid-playoffs bump in light of this thread (another good bump).

2006: Kirilenko
2007: Kirilenko
2008: Battier
2009: LeBron James
2010: LeBron James
2011: LeBron James
2012: LeBron James
2013: Paul George
2014: Kawih Leonard
2015: D. Green

2006: AK47
2007: AK47
2008: Battier
2009: Artest
2010: Wallace
2011: Deng
2012: Allen
2013: PG
2014: Kawhi
2015: Green/Kawhi