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Speaking of a LeBron, McGrady, Kobe to a lesser extent. Who is ideal? Obviously would be looking for off-ball ability, defense, and the ability to facilitate when the star is off of the court. Billups, Stockton come to mind for me, but I know very little in comparison to many posters here.

Jose Calderon. 2009-2013 Jason Kidd. Kenny Smith.

Steph Curry for sure. John Stockton is another good mention, especially with his defense. Nash wouldn't be Nash but that doesn't mean ineffective, he's still a brilliant shooter and can score as well. Kidd is tricky because of his lack of shooting but good perimeter defense and he's a good playmaker as well, and transition O would be killer.

That's probably the order I'd say, Curry, Stock, Nash, Billups, Kidd.

EDIT: Oh, Terry Porter? He actually did this in real life. I'd probably put him 2 or 3.

Normally you want 3 point shooting, defense and off-ball play, so Billups is perfect. Mookie Blaylock is great too.

CP3, he can do it all. 3's, playing without the ball in his hands, defense, he is the ultimate PG.

Chauncey Billups. Excellent shooter, very good defender, perfectly adequate playmaker, doesn't have to take a lot of shots (averaged just about 12 FGA per game in his prime). Great leader and playoff performer, you can trust him to be the #1 option when your ball-dominant superstar is struggling with his shot, or defended well.

I can see Billups being a good fit with literally every ball-dominant superstar I can think of - LeBron, Kobe, Wade - I think both the superstar and Billups would be able to utilize 100% of their potential together. He actually excelled playing next to a volume scorer - Melo. Maybe Anthony isn't really ball-dominant, but he still needs to take his 20 shots per game, so the synergy is similar.

Imagine Billups on the 2009 Cavs, replacing Mo Williams, for example. They would probably win it all, or at least push the Lakers to 6 or 7 games in the finals (LeBron/Billups would be a slightly better duo than Kobe/Pau, in my opinion - or at least more talented, because of LBJ).

This is why I love Darren Collison. Stretches the floor, plays D, and can adequately play off the ball for Cousins/Gay. I think a lot of our recent troubles have been due to him out. Its why I don't really warm up to the rumors of replacing him with other guards like Lawson or whatever who want the ball in their hands. Collison fits with two big time offensive talents

I like that version of Kidd, he would be my pick as well. Two way player hitting the three and open man.
Billups works as well, although kinda secondary. Steve Francise is a lot like Billups.

Mckie at point, which he played works greatly.
Beverly
Delonte
Charlie Ward
Mookie
Chalmers
Kirk
Conley(specific version)
Lowry(specific version)
Fisher

Afte this contract is up Deron is going to be a key player to a contender as well

GYK wrote:Steve Francise is a lot like Billups.

Francis similar to Billups? To me, they couldn't be any more different. Francis was a scoring PG, pretty ball-dominant himself, mediocre shooter. Far from a pure point guard, and he certainly didn't have Chauncey's floor general capabilities.

Francis was a poor man's Westbrook, and that's the type of player I would try to avoid at all costs, if I already had a ball-dominant superstar, like a LeBron, Kobe, Wade etc.

Quotatious wrote:

GYK wrote:Steve Francise is a lot like Billups.

Francis similar to Billups? To me, they couldn't be any more different. Francis was a scoring PG, pretty ball-dominant himself, mediocre shooter. Far from a pure point guard, and he certainly didn't have Chauncey's floor general capabilities.

Francis was a poor man's Westbrook, and that's the type of player I would try to avoid at all costs, if I already had a ball-dominant superstar, like a LeBron, Kobe, Wade etc.

Similar in the sense that they would be secondary stars. Not style. Shooter vs penetrator.
Ball dominant? Maybe but I wouldn't say no more than CB. When good he was the motor just like CB and primary scorer with a finisher wing. Billups won tho.

You could but he was a good defender and hit his 3 respectably. Again I don't see an overly ball dominant player, he wouldn't be a role player tho.

Currently playing? Beverley, Hill, and Hinrich are who I'd want. All solid defenders who don't need the ball and can shoot decently.

Edit: and Chalmers.

Billups is the obvious answer here but as mentioned, Terry Porter is also a great choice.

Quotatious wrote:Imagine Billups on the 2009 Cavs, replacing Mo Williams, for example. They would probably win it all, or at least push the Lakers to 6 or 7 games in the finals (LeBron/Billups would be a slightly better duo than Kobe/Pau, in my opinion - or at least more talented, because of LBJ).

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Jaivl wrote:Normally you want 3 point shooting, defense and off-ball play, so Billups is perfect.

+1 and to Quotatious as well. Billups is the first player that stuck in my mind. As a non all star, a prime Derek Fisher is good too. Ideally you want a point guard that shoots the 3 well to space the floor and plays good defense, but also one with a pair who will control the tempo a bit and not be afraid to run the offense and stop feeding the superstar if things are not going his way. Something Billups would do and something I loved Fisher for.

Chauncey Billups is definitely not the obvious answer. This is the guy who played next to Chris Paul after he was already close to being washed up and demanded the ball for long periods of time. I have no idea where he got the reputation as being some kind of off the ball player but that is definitely not the case.

It isn't like Curry is an ideal off the ball player but I would much rather have his far superior offensive skills than Chauncey's ego.

NinjaSheppard wrote:Chauncey Billups is definitely not the obvious answer. This is the guy who played next to Chris Paul after he was already close to being washed up and demanded the ball for long periods of time. I have no idea where he got the reputation as being some kind of off the ball player but that is definitely not the case.

It isn't like Curry is an ideal off the ball player but I would much rather have his far superior offensive skills than Chauncey's ego.

Ya but thats when he was "washed up" so his effectivness is not as good, its like saying Shaq didnt work out with Nash. And having an ideal PG playing along side another PG is an entirely different question. but Billups would still be on top of that list in my opinion as well due to size, defense, and 3 point shooting.

NinjaSheppard wrote:Chauncey Billups is definitely not the obvious answer. This is the guy who played next to Chris Paul after he was already close to being washed up and demanded the ball for long periods of time. I have no idea where he got the reputation as being some kind of off the ball player but that is definitely not the case.

It isn't like Curry is an ideal off the ball player but I would much rather have his far superior offensive skills than Chauncey's ego.

That's a good point.
Playing next to Paul is similar to playing next to a ball dominant wing.

How were the demands? Did he become a team problem?

Stockton, paul, billups, harper if u consider him a PG

Going with Billups

Massamba wrote:CP3, he can do it all. 3's, playing without the ball in his hands, defense, he is the ultimate PG.

He's way too ball dominant. I think he would clash with Kobe et al who want the offense to flow through them.