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Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 2:19 am
by mdonnelly1989
Who has the better Perimeter Shot?

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:07 am
by Goudelock
Durant. I don't have the stats to back this up, but they seem to be the same on spot-up jumpers, while Kevin Durant is WAY better at hitting contested shots.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 8:13 am
by picc
PockyCandy wrote:Durant. I don't have the stats to back this up, but they seem to be the same on spot-up jumpers, while Kevin Durant is WAY better at hitting contested shots.


Pretty much this. Klay is a great shooter but still much more situationally limited than the truly great ones. Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 12:53 pm
by East Bay Sports
Durant

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 1:40 pm
by Swagalicious
picc wrote:
PockyCandy wrote:Durant. I don't have the stats to back this up, but they seem to be the same on spot-up jumpers, while Kevin Durant is WAY better at hitting contested shots.


Pretty much this. Klay is a great shooter but still much more situationally limited than the truly great ones. Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.


Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.

Imo Durant is just as good a shooter as 13/14 Melo, a lil' better than prime Kobe/Jordan and definitely clearly ahead of Thompson.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 2:16 pm
by bondom34
Swagalicious wrote:
picc wrote:
PockyCandy wrote:Durant. I don't have the stats to back this up, but they seem to be the same on spot-up jumpers, while Kevin Durant is WAY better at hitting contested shots.


Pretty much this. Klay is a great shooter but still much more situationally limited than the truly great ones. Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.


Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.

Imo Durant is just as good a shooter as 13/14 Melo, a lil' better than prime Kobe/Jordan and definitely clearly ahead of Thompson.

Everything other than 3 point shooting is still KD. KD's season last year had better shooting numbers overall, higher TS, the only lower FG percentage was from 3. And efficiency wise, Melo wasn't close.
http://bkref.com/tiny/2eXI9

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:03 pm
by sixerswillrule
bondom34 wrote:
Swagalicious wrote:
picc wrote:Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.


Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.


Everything other than 3 point shooting is still KD. KD's season last year had better shooting numbers overall, higher TS, the only lower FG percentage was from 3.
http://bkref.com/tiny/2eXI9


You could replace KD with Barkley and that would still be true what you said. The topic was jump-shooting, though.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:14 pm
by bondom34
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Swagalicious wrote:
Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.


Everything other than 3 point shooting is still KD. KD's season last year had better shooting numbers overall, higher TS, the only lower FG percentage was from 3.
http://bkref.com/tiny/2eXI9


You could replace KD with Barkley and that would still be true what you said. The topic was jump-shooting, though.

Durant is also better from 16 ft. to the 3 point line than Curry. What he loses from 3, he makes up in long 2s. Its not efficient, but perimeter shooting overall is pretty similar.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:17 pm
by sixerswillrule
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Everything other than 3 point shooting is still KD. KD's season last year had better shooting numbers overall, higher TS, the only lower FG percentage was from 3.
http://bkref.com/tiny/2eXI9


You could replace KD with Barkley and that would still be true what you said. The topic was jump-shooting, though.

Durant is also better from 16 ft. to the 3 point line than Curry. What he loses from 3, he makes up in long 2s. Its not efficient, but perimeter shooting overall is pretty similar.


Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:31 pm
by bondom34
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
You could replace KD with Barkley and that would still be true what you said. The topic was jump-shooting, though.

Durant is also better from 16 ft. to the 3 point line than Curry. What he loses from 3, he makes up in long 2s. Its not efficient, but perimeter shooting overall is pretty similar.


Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)


I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 3:40 pm
by sixerswillrule
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Durant is also better from 16 ft. to the 3 point line than Curry. What he loses from 3, he makes up in long 2s. Its not efficient, but perimeter shooting overall is pretty similar.


Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)


I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.


Curry over his entire career is 46% from 16-3. Even if you exclude Durant's first 4 seasons, Curry still at least equals him from there.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:05 pm
by bondom34
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)


I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.


Curry over his entire career is 46% from 16-3. Even if you exclude Durant's first 4 seasons, Curry still at least equals him from there.

Touche.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:52 pm
by picc
Swagalicious wrote:
picc wrote:
PockyCandy wrote:Durant. I don't have the stats to back this up, but they seem to be the same on spot-up jumpers, while Kevin Durant is WAY better at hitting contested shots.


Pretty much this. Klay is a great shooter but still much more situationally limited than the truly great ones. Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.


Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.

Imo Durant is just as good a shooter as 13/14 Melo, a lil' better than prime Kobe/Jordan and definitely clearly ahead of Thompson.


Its probably back of mind since he hasn't played in so long, but Kevin Durant routinely hit those same 25 foot, off the dribble contested three pointers like they were free throws. He was clearly better than everyone you listed (imo) and the only perimeter player today that approaches Curry. Not quite as good but a decent 2nd.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 6:41 pm
by bondom34
picc wrote:
Swagalicious wrote:
picc wrote:
Pretty much this. Klay is a great shooter but still much more situationally limited than the truly great ones. Durant is a near-Curry level shooter.


Nope. Curry is a cheat code. His three-point shooting is 2K levels of ridiculous.

Imo Durant is just as good a shooter as 13/14 Melo, a lil' better than prime Kobe/Jordan and definitely clearly ahead of Thompson.


Its probably back of mind since he hasn't played in so long, but Kevin Durant routinely hit those same 25 foot, off the dribble contested three pointers like they were free throws. He was clearly better than everyone you listed (imo) and the only perimeter player today that approaches Curry. Not quite as good but a decent 2nd.

Yep, I'd agree with this. KD is definitely closer than people think to Curry and ahead of the rest.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 6:45 pm
by PaulieWal
bondom34 wrote:Yep, I'd agree with this. KD is definitely closer than people think to Curry and ahead of the rest.


Absolutely. People are forgetting because KD hasn't played much this year and Thompson has had a breakout season of sorts.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 7:06 pm
by Greatness
Durant is a better shooter than Klay, but Curry is unquestionably better than both and it isn't close.

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 7:25 pm
by cpower
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Durant is also better from 16 ft. to the 3 point line than Curry. What he loses from 3, he makes up in long 2s. Its not efficient, but perimeter shooting overall is pretty similar.


Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)


I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kdtrey5/status/426429947138170880[/tweet]

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 7:26 pm
by bondom34
cpower wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
Not last season, though that was Curry's best year.

2014
Mid-range Jumpers
Curry - .488 (17% assisted)
Durant - .443 (46% assisted)

3PT Jumpers
Curry - .424 (58% assisted)
Durant - .391 (66% assisted)

Overall Jumper eFG%
Curry - .573 (32% assisted)'
Durant - .509 (50% assisted)


I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kdtrey5/status/426429947138170880[/tweet]

Did ya read 2 posts down where I agreed?

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 7:29 pm
by cpower
bondom34 wrote:
cpower wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
I was only talking perimeter.

Last year:

KD: 16 ft.-3 point line was .445
Curry: .386 this year

Unless you're picking single best season from each range in which case you're right.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kdtrey5/status/426429947138170880[/tweet]

Did ya read 2 posts down where I agreed?

yes :D just felt its a good time to post that

Re: Better Perimeter Shooting: Klay Thompson V Kevin Durant

Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2015 7:33 pm
by bondom34
cpower wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
cpower wrote:
Did ya read 2 posts down where I agreed?

yes :D just felt its a good time to post that

Oh, OK then.