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Who do you have higher on your all time list heading into the 2017 season?

Curry. Better peak (So far), 1 more MVP and a championship.

I think it's Durant easily for now. Curry's peak is a little better but Durant has more top level seasons.

Durant is one of the best scorers in the league from day one, 6 years in a row. He is one of the best offensive players in the league ever and I have a feeling that his peak is just about to come (2016-2018?).
Curry has a potential to be a generational player, however I feel it is still Durant who leads this comparison.

What's Durant done that Curry hasn't done? I think the extra MVP and Title makes up for any more all star or all nba teams Durant has made.

Gus Fring wrote:What's Durant done that Curry hasn't done? I think the extra MVP and Title makes up for any more all star or all nba teams Durant has made.

No it doesn''t. Not even close.

Steph has been a relevant basketball player for 4 seasons. He doesn't jump any of the all time greats.

NinjaSheppard wrote:

Gus Fring wrote:What's Durant done that Curry hasn't done? I think the extra MVP and Title makes up for any more all star or all nba teams Durant has made.

No it doesn''t. Not even close.

Steph has been a relevant basketball player for 4 seasons. He doesn't jump any of the all time greats.

Yeah i don't get using the accolades thing, i mean if we look at 3 year stretches i'd say 12-14 Kd is comparable or slightly better than 14-16 Curry, everything outside of that is Kd.

NinjaSheppard wrote:

Gus Fring wrote:What's Durant done that Curry hasn't done? I think the extra MVP and Title makes up for any more all star or all nba teams Durant has made.

No it doesn''t. Not even close.

Steph has been a relevant basketball player for 4 seasons. He doesn't jump any of the all time greats.

Well we're talking about Durant and Curry, I'm not comparing Steph to other all time greats, and if Steph isn't close to any all-time greats than neither is Durant. In Steph's 4 relevant seasons he has one more MVP and one more title than Durant has had. He also, statistically speaking, may have had the best offensive season of all time while also leading possibly the greatest team of all time. Again, what has Durant done that's more impressive than Curry's 4 relevant years? He's made 1 finals appearance, has 1 mvp, has 4 scoring titles. I dont know how that's so much better than 2 mvps, 2 finals appearances, 1 title, 1 scoring title, and an all-time great individual and team season. I don't think the "he's been doing it longer" argument for Durant really comes into play in this situation.

Both are top 30 all time right now and possibly even top 20.

Gus Fring wrote:

NinjaSheppard wrote:

Gus Fring wrote:What's Durant done that Curry hasn't done? I think the extra MVP and Title makes up for any more all star or all nba teams Durant has made.

No it doesn''t. Not even close.

Steph has been a relevant basketball player for 4 seasons. He doesn't jump any of the all time greats.

Well we're talking about Durant and Curry, I'm not comparing Steph to other all time greats, and if Steph isn't close to any all-time greats than neither is Durant. In Steph's 4 relevant seasons he has one more MVP and one more title than Durant has had. He also, statistically speaking, may have had the best offensive season of all time while also leading possibly the greatest team of all time. Again, what has Durant done that's more impressive than Curry's 4 relevant years? He's made 1 finals appearance, has 1 mvp, has 4 scoring titles. I dont know how that's so much better than 2 mvps, 2 finals appearances, 1 title, 1 scoring title, and an all-time great individual and team season. I don't think the "he's been doing it longer" argument for Durant really comes into play in this situation.

Durant's 2012 playoff run was better than any of Curry's so far. He would have finished it with a title too if Wade and Bosh weren't playing. They both lost the only time they saw LeBron with a full-strength team. Durant played much better than Steph did in that loss though.

dreamshake wrote:

Gus Fring wrote:

NinjaSheppard wrote:
No it doesn''t. Not even close.

Steph has been a relevant basketball player for 4 seasons. He doesn't jump any of the all time greats.

Well we're talking about Durant and Curry, I'm not comparing Steph to other all time greats, and if Steph isn't close to any all-time greats than neither is Durant. In Steph's 4 relevant seasons he has one more MVP and one more title than Durant has had. He also, statistically speaking, may have had the best offensive season of all time while also leading possibly the greatest team of all time. Again, what has Durant done that's more impressive than Curry's 4 relevant years? He's made 1 finals appearance, has 1 mvp, has 4 scoring titles. I dont know how that's so much better than 2 mvps, 2 finals appearances, 1 title, 1 scoring title, and an all-time great individual and team season. I don't think the "he's been doing it longer" argument for Durant really comes into play in this situation.

Durant's 2012 playoff run was better than any of Curry's so far. He would have finished it with a title too if Wade and Bosh weren't playing. They both lost the only time they saw LeBron with a full-strength team. Durant played much better than Steph did in that loss though.

Correction, he would have finished with a title had Kendrick Perkins not been playing. Scott Brooks incompetence is the only reason OKC doesn't have a chip, because KD was unstoppable against Miami.

Whirrun wrote:

dreamshake wrote:

Gus Fring wrote:
Well we're talking about Durant and Curry, I'm not comparing Steph to other all time greats, and if Steph isn't close to any all-time greats than neither is Durant. In Steph's 4 relevant seasons he has one more MVP and one more title than Durant has had. He also, statistically speaking, may have had the best offensive season of all time while also leading possibly the greatest team of all time. Again, what has Durant done that's more impressive than Curry's 4 relevant years? He's made 1 finals appearance, has 1 mvp, has 4 scoring titles. I dont know how that's so much better than 2 mvps, 2 finals appearances, 1 title, 1 scoring title, and an all-time great individual and team season. I don't think the "he's been doing it longer" argument for Durant really comes into play in this situation.

Durant's 2012 playoff run was better than any of Curry's so far. He would have finished it with a title too if Wade and Bosh weren't playing. They both lost the only time they saw LeBron with a full-strength team. Durant played much better than Steph did in that loss though.

Correction, he would have finished with a title had Kendrick Perkins not been playing. Scott Brooks incompetence is the only reason OKC doesn't have a chip, because KD was unstoppable against Miami.

Eh, nope I don't buy that. Miami won in 5 games. They were just the better team that year.

-As good as KD was, LeBron was better.
-Wade still had a bit left in the tank that year.
-Battier was still defending well and was on fire from 3
-Ibaka was bad
-Harden was worse

dreamshake wrote:

Whirrun wrote:

dreamshake wrote:
Durant's 2012 playoff run was better than any of Curry's so far. He would have finished it with a title too if Wade and Bosh weren't playing. They both lost the only time they saw LeBron with a full-strength team. Durant played much better than Steph did in that loss though.

Correction, he would have finished with a title had Kendrick Perkins not been playing. Scott Brooks incompetence is the only reason OKC doesn't have a chip, because KD was unstoppable against Miami.

Eh, nope I don't buy that. Miami won in 5 games. They were just the better team that year.

-As good as KD was, LeBron was better.
-Wade still had a bit left in the tank that year.
-Battier was still defending well and was on fire from 3
-Ibaka was bad
-Harden was worse

OKC outscored Miami when Perkins wasn't on the floor. There's nothing to disagree with.

Curry better peak, KD has more consistent seasons. I want to say KD but Curry has 1 Champ n 2 MVP to go with it. So, Curry.

Whirrun wrote:

dreamshake wrote:

Whirrun wrote:
Correction, he would have finished with a title had Kendrick Perkins not been playing. Scott Brooks incompetence is the only reason OKC doesn't have a chip, because KD was unstoppable against Miami.

Eh, nope I don't buy that. Miami won in 5 games. They were just the better team that year.

-As good as KD was, LeBron was better.
-Wade still had a bit left in the tank that year.
-Battier was still defending well and was on fire from 3
-Ibaka was bad
-Harden was worse

OKC outscored Miami when Perkins wasn't on the floor. There's nothing to disagree with.

You can believe what you want, but saying "there's nothing to disagree with" about the opinion that a series that ended in 5 games would go the other way based on a coaching change is kind've silly. There's plenty to disagree with. Perkins played 23mins/game and those minutes would have to go to someone. I don't believe that the difference in 23 mins of Perkins and 23 more mins of Collison/Ibaka (wasn't playing well)/whoever would be enough to swing the outcome of that series. Not with Harden playing the way he was and Westbrook making the amount of mental mistakes that he did. Miami was worse in the '13 playoffs than they were in '12 and they still beat the Spurs, who were a better team and a worse matchup than the '12 Thunder.

Whirrun wrote:

dreamshake wrote:

Whirrun wrote:
Correction, he would have finished with a title had Kendrick Perkins not been playing. Scott Brooks incompetence is the only reason OKC doesn't have a chip, because KD was unstoppable against Miami.

Eh, nope I don't buy that. Miami won in 5 games. They were just the better team that year.

-As good as KD was, LeBron was better.
-Wade still had a bit left in the tank that year.
-Battier was still defending well and was on fire from 3
-Ibaka was bad
-Harden was worse

OKC outscored Miami when Perkins wasn't on the floor. There's nothing to disagree with.

It was only in game 1 and 2 and it was certainly not just because of Perkins.I mean, in game 3 and 4, Perkins had a positive differential in its two games and the thunder lost its two games!

I know I have Durant higher. If I remember right, it's Durant at #36 and Curry at #37. Maybe a spot higher for each.

JordansBulls wrote:Both are top 30 all time right now and possibly even top 20.

Does that make Wade and CP3 top 10?

Curry is 6pts higher than Durant on my GOAT list right now and I expect him to widen that gap further for the simple fact he just enter his prime and about to get more rings. His peak is already higher than Durant.

JordansBulls wrote:Both are top 30 all time right now and possibly even top 20.

Top 30? Maybe IF even that. Top 20? Hell no. Not yet at least

If they both win a couple titles in the next few years then they'll be top 20.